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Old 09-11-2012, 01:01 PM   #576
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Strokelands already mediocre secondary took a blow last night. The brain trust @ Haborbay Parkway cut Van Dyke & Chekwa now Bartfail is out for six weeks......


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On Monday night, he got burned deep on a 46-yard pass from Philip Rivers to Robert Meachem that set up a game-tying field goal in the first quarter. Then, he was helpless on a pretty back-shoulder pass to Malcom Floyd for 23 yards. That helped get the Chargers downfield on the touchdown drive that put them up 10-3 with 3:10 left in the first half.

Minutes later, Bartell walked into the locker room with an elbow injury and didn't return.


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Raiders | Ron Bartell out at least six weeks

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:08:26 -0700

Oakland Raiders CB Ron Bartell (shoulder) will miss at least six weeks after suffering a shoulder blade injury in Week 1 against the San Diego Chargers.


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Old 09-11-2012, 01:05 PM   #577
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It's not how many penalties, it's when the penalties occur. A team can have 4 penalties all game. Looks good on paper but it doesn't tell the story behind the penalties ie drive killers, opposing automatic 1st downs etc etc
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That said, if we don't lose our longsnapper it's a game we very well might have won. Yeah it sucks we didn't, but there was nothing out there last night that made me think we're doomed.

I can think of a couple things. Namely Knapps play calling. Or the overuse of McFadden. He's gonna wear down by the 5th week if that keeps up.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:31 PM   #579
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That said, if we don't lose our longsnapper it's a game we very well might have won. Yeah it sucks we didn't, but there was nothing out there last night that made me think we're doomed.
HAHAHA... Really?!
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Raiders will need a full yr of work with the new system and new coaches before they can compete for the playoffs.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:46 PM   #581
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Raiders will need a full yr of work with the new system and new coaches before they can compete for the playoffs.
They will need a new QB too.
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They will need a new QB too.
Most likely yes, but they also could improve just with Palmer. Whats funny is they were better off with Jason Campbell. Unlike Palmer he knows his limitations and makes way fewer mistakes IMO.

I think the WR's are a big problem in Oaktown. They have some talent and speed but seem to run crappy routes, drop balls, and don't make enough plays.

I think they have some decent WR just not a true stud he QB can go to. The QB ends up having to throw over and over to Darren McFadden. No wonder the kid gets injured every yr.

But lots of teams going with rookie qbs. Maybe the Raiders can draft Barkely if they do really poorly this yr. But I'm not sure Barkely going to be that good. He sort of just throws the ball up for those SC wr to out athlete the players defending them.
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:12 PM   #583
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But Hagan is just a possession guy, a carreer 11 YPC guy. Streeter probably figures to be the same type of reciever. Our 2 most explosive WR's were in street clothes.

Stupid how? That guy is dead. The guys Reggie brought in look like they can play a little. Wheeler (FA) and Burris (3rd round pic) upgrade our LB corps, and Streeter (udfa) looks like a decent slot guy. Bartell held up except for 1 catch and Spencer didnt have his name called all night.

Without the longsnapper fiasco it's a 1 possession game. And it would happen to any team, I seem to remember the NYG missing 2 field goals a few years back when their LS went down.
A lot of people think Chargers were without there best big play WR. They were without their best RB. So not like Raiders had worst more players missing.

Also what is Jacoby Ford and Moore done so far in the league. They showed some flashes that is it. Not saying they haven't shown flashes, but Ford is hurt all the time brother. I would write him off. Moore will end up a pretty good WR I think, but I wouldn't be too excited about him. He will never make plays like DT is making right now.
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Michael Bush: Two touchdowns

Darren McFadden: Zero


Kevin Boss: One Touchdown

Brandon Myers: Zero


Louis Murphy 3-63

Darrius Heyward Bey 3-43



With personnel moves like that reggie should have the raiders back on track in no time!



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Old 09-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #585
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A lot of people think Chargers were without there best big play WR. They were without their best RB. So not like Raiders had worst more players missing.

Also what is Jacoby Ford and Moore done so far in the league. They showed some flashes that is it. Not saying they haven't shown flashes, but Ford is hurt all the time brother. I would write him off. Moore will end up a pretty good WR I think, but I wouldn't be too excited about him. He will never make plays like DT is making right now.
Jacoby Ford will have foot surgery

Hopes of a quick return for Raiders wide receiver Jacoby Ford have been dashed once and for all.

Coach Dennis Allen announced Tuesday that Ford will have surgery on his injured foot that will keep him out for a “significant amount of time.” Ford has not practiced or played since the second preseason game, when he suffered another injury to the foot that kept him out of the final six games of the 2011 season.

“After visiting with the foot specialist in Carolina, everybody thought that given a little bit of time (Ford) could come back from it,” Allen said, via Matt Kawahara of the Sacramento Bee. “After giving it some time and re-evaluating, everybody, the medical people, felt like surgery was probably the best thing for him.”

The blow would be an easier one to suffer if Denarius Moore is able to get back on the field. Moore has been out with a hamstring injury, but started practicing last week before being declared inactive against San Diego on Monday night. Allen said he was “very hopeful” that Moore would be able to play this week.

Whether that amount of time is significant enough for Ford to wind up on either injured reserve list remains to be seen. The Raiders have just three healthy wideouts currently on the roster, so it seems likely they’ll think about adding a body at some point in the next few days.
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Cmon Boltaneer, we have to hope it is Terrel Owens!
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Cmon Boltaneer, we have to hope it is Terrel Owens!
T.O. and Ocho. Why not? Do it, Dennis!
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #588
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...At the end of the day SD kicked 5 field goals, we left points on the field when Streater fumbled, we left points on the field when Jones fumbled, it was a division game and figured to be a low scoring affair, the messed up long snaps were the difference in the game whether you want to admit it or not.
If that makes you feel better, then fine. If you think the O-linemen we have suit the scheme, fine. McFadden's 35 rushing yards that actually happened on the field during a real game say different, but okay. The fact that McFadden didn't do well in a ZBS before actually happened, but if on paper that doesn't matter, fine.

If the offense not being able to make a single adjustment in order to get production is okay with you, then you being okay with that is okay with me.

If you want to think Goethel was killing it in practice but blew 3 snaps in a game, cool. I have this crazy idea that he wasn't prepared because the ST coach sucks and Dennis Allen wasn't paying attention to what was going in camp.

And now one of our starting CBs is out and we don't have anyone to take his place. They got rid of DVD because he wasn't ready to start yet. Sure, he was a rookie last season and had never had NFL offseason before this year and had to learn a whole new system, but ****can the kid anyway. We won't need him... D'oh!

Does RM = Reggie McKenzie or does RM = Retard Magic? Right now it's the latter.
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T.O. and Ocho. Why not? Do it, Dennis!
The old regime would've already had these two signed.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:49 PM   #590
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While the Raiders were laughable last night I saw nothing from SD. That Oakland played that badly and SD could only come up with field goals at best I think it is questionable who will vie for the toilet bowl of the AFC West this year. I think it's a 3 way contest.
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If that makes you feel better, then fine. If you think the O-linemen we have suit the scheme, fine. McFadden's 35 rushing yards that actually happened on the field during a real game say different, but okay. The fact that McFadden didn't do well in a ZBS before actually happened, but if on paper that doesn't matter, fine.

If the offense not being able to make a single adjustment in order to get production is okay with you, then you being okay with that is okay with me.

If you want to think Goethel was killing it in practice but blew 3 snaps in a game, cool. I have this crazy idea that he wasn't prepared because the ST coach sucks and Dennis Allen wasn't paying attention to what was going in camp.

And now one of our starting CBs is out and we don't have anyone to take his place. They got rid of DVD because he wasn't ready to start yet. Sure, he was a rookie last season and had never had NFL offseason before this year and had to learn a whole new system, but ****can the kid anyway. We won't need him... D'oh!

Does RM = Reggie McKenzie or does RM = Retard Magic? Right now it's the latter.

Just a couple of things... McFadden several times didnt see the seam backside where Veldheer and Carlisle got their guys on the ground and just ran right into the pile. The cutback was there 4 or 5 times he didnt see it.

Secondly if the GM hires a coach, and the coach commits to a system, no player, aside from a stud QB is bigger than the system, not even Darren McFadden. I dont see how you can give the guy big money when he has yet to play a full season. And with all the colleges running the inside and outside zone play, 1 cut runners are a dime a dozen.
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Darren McFadden: Zero


Kevin Boss: One Touchdown

Brandon Myers: Zero


Louis Murphy 3-63

Darrius Heyward Bey 3-43



With personnel moves like that reggie should have the raiders back on track in no time!



This is just flat out dumb. None of these moves had anything to do with talent evaluation, and had a lot to do with all the cap problems that Al left.
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Strokelands already mediocre secondary took a blow last night. The brain trust @ Haborbay Parkway cut Van Dyke & Chekwa now Bartfail is out for six weeks......




Um... Chekwa is on our practice squad. Have you ever been right about anything?
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Um... Chekwa is on our practice squad. Have you ever been right about anything?
You know how a player gets to the practice squad? Its not through a pretty invitation and a RSVP.
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Shane Lechler was only going to punt the ball 30 yards?

Even with all those short fields Rivers couldn't capitalize.
Your team ****ing sucks ass. See ya next year with your loser team. Carson Palmer? hahahahahahahaahahahahaahhaaha

Eat **** Raider fan. Your team just blows.



What a f'n joke of a team.
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Who's the next ****ing team going to sucker the Raiders out of draft picks? ahahahahahahahahaahahahaaha

hahahahahaahahahaha

You dumbasses will ship 3 #1's for Miles Austin.

hahahahahahahaa

Make it happen you dumbass Raiders.
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Your team ****ing sucks ass. See ya next year with your loser team. Carson Palmer? hahahahahahahaahahahahaahhaaha

Eat **** Raider fan. Your team just blows.



What a f'n joke of a team.
How old are you? Does your mommy know that you're on message boards and using such foul language?
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Does your mommy know that you're on message boards and using such foul language?
I see why you have college sports as your avatar. Your favorite pro team ****ing blows.

It's got to really suck knowing your dysfunctional organization continues to **** the bed year after year. Yet you clowns keep thinking some new season and some new hope is gonna change.

The Raiders ****ing blow, as always.

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I see why you have college sports as your avatar. Your favorite pro team ****ing blows.

It's got to really suck knowing your dysfunctional organization continues to **** the bed year after year. Yet you clowns keep thinking some new season and some new hope is gonna change.

The Raiders ****ing blow, as always.

ahahahaha

Ya, you're a minor. Hey mods, don't you have a policy about minors not becoming members?

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Ya, you're a minor. Hey mods, don't you have any rules about banning minors from becoming members?
Reality set in that your team, once again, ****ing blows. Gotta suck doesn't it?! Hope you are getting some fantasy football fix this season. Because watching your assclown team isn't going to deliver. At least you can root for Decker or DT to score some TD's and help your fantasy team win. Cuz your real team eats ****!

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