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Old 09-06-2012, 08:00 AM   #226
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How is Florida State massively overrated? They have one of the best, if not the best defenses in the country, top recruiting classes under Fischer the past few years and a lot of weapons on offense. Jenkins is done for the year on defense, which sucks, but we have a ton of depth there anyways.

If not for Manuel's injury, beating Oklahoma, Clemson and Wake Forest were probably real possibilities. His shoulder was still bothering him those games, but the defense did end up tanking. That Virginia loss sucked. The team was incredibly young last year. The schedule is a whole lot easier this year.

Clemson and VT will probably be the toughest games of the year.

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How is Florida State massively overrated? They have one of the best, if not the best defenses in the country, top recruiting classes under Fischer the past few years and a lot of weapons on offense. Jenkins is done for the year on defense, which sucks, but we have a ton of depth there anyways.

If not for Manuel's injury, beating Oklahoma, Clemson and Wake Forest were probably real possibilities. His shoulder was still bothering him those games, but the defense did end up tanking. That Virginia loss sucked. The team was incredibly young last year. The schedule is a whole lot easier this year.

Clemson and VT will probably be the toughest games of the year.
Every year "FSU is back and will challenge for a top 5 ranking!" and ends up fluttering about.
Preseason last year they were #6, final rankings #23 and 9-4.
This year, low and behold, #6 again and EJ Manuel has proven to be nothing special at QB.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:39 AM   #228
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Every year "FSU is back and will challenge for a top 5 ranking!" and ends up fluttering about.
Preseason last year they were #6, final rankings #23 and 9-4.
This year, low and behold, #6 again and EJ Manuel has proven to be nothing special at QB.
FSU and Notre Dame. NCAA Preseason darlings every year. Mediocre disappointments and mere shadows of their once-famous programs in January.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:19 AM   #229
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Every year "FSU is back and will challenge for a top 5 ranking!" and ends up fluttering about.
Preseason last year they were #6, final rankings #23 and 9-4.
This year, low and behold, #6 again and EJ Manuel has proven to be nothing special at QB.
This. They've been rated highly in the preseason polls since Jimbo Fisher took over to no avail. I'll believe the resurgence when I see it. I think they'll have a solid team, top 25, but top 10? No buying it, especially not with a medicore starting QB.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:02 PM   #230
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Yeah, typical early season stuff. It's been refreshing the last three years to have Clemson open the season with Auburn rather than the usual fluff. Of course, we just reshuffled the fluff to games #2 and #3. Ball State and Furman the next two weeks Then we get the (once again) massively overrated Florida State.
I agree that they are overrated and I expect Clemson to beat them. None of the ACC Florida Schools has a quarterback.
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I agree that they are overrated and I expect Clemson to beat them. None of the ACC Florida Schools has a quarterback.
Morris is a good QB. He has an NFL arm and NFL wheels as well. He just needs polish and he's getting there.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:57 AM   #232
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Morris is a good QB. He has an NFL arm and NFL wheels as well. He just needs polish and he's getting there.
Morris has potential, but is only decent right now. Unless FSU's defense is on an Alabama or LSU level (their D is good, no doubt, but not on that level), a guy like Morris isn't good enough for them to be any thing better than a solid top 25 type of team. Top 7? Please.
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Morris has potential, but is only decent right now. Unless FSU's defense is on an Alabama or LSU level (their D is good, no doubt, but not on that level), a guy like Morris isn't good enough for them to be any thing better than a solid top 25 type of team. Top 7? Please.
Uh? Stephen Morris is the QB of the Miami Hurricanes. E.J. Manuel is QB of Florida State.
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Morris is a good QB. He has an NFL arm and NFL wheels as well. He just needs polish and he's getting there.
That's what I am talking about. They need polish and work and we'll see what they do. Same thing really for Logan Thomas. I see flashes, but no real maturation at the position.
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Uh? Stephen Morris is the QB of the Miami Hurricanes. E.J. Manuel is QB of Florida State.
Manuel, sorry. I'm bad with names. In any case, he's not that impressive. At least not so far. He's had some injury issues, as you mentioned, so maybe he will step it up this year.
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Who is the best QB in THE ACC? Is there one?
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Manuel, sorry. I'm bad with names. In any case, he's not that impressive. At least not so far. He's had some injury issues, as you mentioned, so maybe he will step it up this year.
E.J. Manuel can look unstoppable somedays, but like dogcrap other days. He is such a polarizing player. He has a good delivery, great arm strength and is pretty accurate with his intermediate and short routes. His deep ball is average at best, has poor footwork, fumbles like crazy. I think he had 18 TD's to 8 INT's last year, but also turned it over 7 times from the oopsies.

Could be Dante Culpepper back from the dead.
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Tahj Boyd, hands down.
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How is Florida State massively overrated? They have one of the best, if not the best defenses in the country, top recruiting classes under Fischer the past few years and a lot of weapons on offense. Jenkins is done for the year on defense, which sucks, but we have a ton of depth there anyways.

If not for Manuel's injury, beating Oklahoma, Clemson and Wake Forest were probably real possibilities. His shoulder was still bothering him those games, but the defense did end up tanking. That Virginia loss sucked. The team was incredibly young last year. The schedule is a whole lot easier this year.

Clemson and VT will probably be the toughest games of the year.
FSU always has a top recruiting class.

And they always end up as a low ranked team.

Totally irrelevant in football.
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I'm looking forward to Missouri's first game in the SEC.

#7 Georgia at Missouri.

Should be an interesting match up.

Go Tigers.
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I'm looking forward to Missouri's first game in the SEC.

#7 Georgia at Missouri.

Should be an interesting match up.

Go Tigers.
Ahhhh, Missouri is ok, but you should be following Missouri S&T. They defeated Arkansas Tech last night to keep their win streak going (2-0 to start the season). Them "engineer boys" can play some football!
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I root for Gary Pinkel to do well, as he was the head coach of my Toledo Rockets from 1991 to 2000.

The coach before him was none other than Nick Saban, who coached at Toledo in 1990 for one season, before leaving to be defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns.
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FSU always has a top recruiting class.

And they always end up as a low ranked team.

Totally irrelevant in football.
Much like Kansas, in almost any sport. (Irrelevant)
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Who is the best QB in THE ACC? Is there one?
Tajh Boyd(Clemson),Logan Thomas(Va Tech),Mike Glennon(NC State) are the most legit QB's in the ACC. Manuel is mostly just hope, though Thomas is at times the same way.
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I would have said Glennon until he played like dog**** against the Vols.
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I would have said Glennon until he played like dog**** against the Vols.
the Vols are going to be better than people think.
people think Dooley is a horrible coach but that program was just that ****ty when he took it over, Lane Kiffin got them some more talent when he was there but a lot of it had to be run off by Dooley because they were morons and criminals.

his new DC is definitely an upgrade over the previous defensive staff though.
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DT Luther Robinson is not making the trip to KSU for tomorrows game. His dad went off on the staff cause he was upset Luther didn't get more PT at BC and the kid got wrapped up in it too and somehow decided to refuse to practice so Golden told him to F off....at least for tomorrows game. Get rid of him. This isn't little league. Unfortunately we already had an awful DT group to begin with...this makes it worse.

Our defense is going to get completely raped in this game. We will need another 40 point effort to win.
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Michigan running back Fitzgerald Toussaint has reclaimed his starting job.

Toussaint, who gained 1,041 yards as a redshirt sophomore last season, was suspended for the Wolverines' season-opening 41-14 loss to No. 2 Alabama last Saturday. Although he was reinstated earlier this week, it was still in question whether or not he'd be starting Saturday.
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Utah State beat Utah 27-20 in OT.
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I would say Boyd as well.
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