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Tombstone RJ · 09-05-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Patriot Way, finally exposed.

Not even Brady can make up for that crumbling roster.

Such a ****ing overrated franchise philosophy.

It has sucked everywhere it has gone but NE and ATL...and ATL succeeded because they deviated from the Patriot Way many times.

the patriot way success is primarily due to Brady. You put a HoF QB on any team and that team's ability to win games is greatly enhanced. Bill Belly did nothing as a HC before Tom Brady.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 12:14 PM

"Easily get blown off the ball in the run game." -- Except, he was an exceptional run defender at Syracuse and has the solo tackles, TFL and has incredible quickness off the snap and was a sure-fire wrap up tackler. Not to mention, he closes in on the line off the edge very well.

Sounds like you did your due dilligence on him.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

"Easily get blown off the ball in the run game." -- Except, he was an exceptional run defender at Syracuse and has the solo tackles, TFL and has incredible quickness off the snap and was a sure-fire wrap up tackler. Not to mention, he closes in on the line off the edge very well.

Sounds like you did your due dilligence on him.

You're right, getting "blown off the ball" as a 4-3 DE was a bit over the top. How about this:

1. Jones could be a good run stopping 4-3 RDE, but I don't think he's a good pass-rusher.
2. 4-3 LDE might be more his calling, where 4-5 sacks per year would be sufficient.
3. Jones would be at his best, if he put on 20 lbs. and played 3-4 DE, where his long arms, height, and slight elusiveness would allow him to hold the line, and make an occasional play behind the LOS.

Either way, I don't think he's as good as Derek Wolfe.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 12:48 PM

You are so the next Mike Mayock. It would make for a great story, before you ran off-screen and deleted yourself.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

You are so the next Mike Mayock. It would make for a great story, before you ran off-screen and deleted yourself.

Mayock was super-high on Jerel Worthy, just like you. Mayock thought the Broncos should draft Worthy at #25 overall...just like you.

And like you, he had no clue who Derek Wolfe was.

Mayock goes off measurables only, which is where Chandler Jones looks good...production in the pass-rush is where he begins to fall off (which is the primary job of a 4-3 RDE). Even Mayock didn't pick Jones in the 1st round.

No, you and Belicheat are alone in that arena.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 01:03 PM

You must have done a little too much meth with Derek Wolfe.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

You must have done a little too much meth with Derek Wolfe.

It's better than being Belicheat's emo crack ho.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

It's better than being Belicheat's emo crack ho.

My opinion that Chandler Jones can be a good NFL player has nothing to do with Bill Belicheck. I hate the Patriots.

DENVERDUI55 · 09-05-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Mayock was super-high on Jerel Worthy, just like you. Mayock thought the Broncos should draft Worthy at #25 overall...just like you.

And like you, he had no clue who Derek Wolfe was.

Mayock goes off measurables only, which is where Chandler Jones looks good...production in the pass-rush is where he begins to fall off (which is the primary job of a 4-3 RDE). Even Mayock didn't pick Jones in the 1st round.

No, you and Belicheat are alone in that arena.

How has MR CRICK looked?

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 02:47 PM

Hahaha, I love this guy ^ -- even though you hate on DJ and Moreno you make me

.

DENVERDUI55 · 09-05-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Hahaha, I love this guy ^ -- even though you hate on DJ and Moreno you make me

.

I was going to bump the thread and revisit it but it was gone from the earth.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I was going to bump the thread and revisit it but it was gone from the earth.

I'm in ****ing tears.

CRICK 4 LIFE.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

How has MR CRICK looked?

More tackles than Jones and Worthy, and only played in 3 preseason games. Thanks for asking.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 03:06 PM

Does Crick prefer paper or plastic?

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 03:11 PM

What about Worthy, though? 3 solo tackles in 4 preseason games...impressive. Don't forget, he played exclusively against 2nd and 3rd string, while playing most of the snaps (so those tackle numbers are a little inflated).

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

What about Worthy, though? 3 solo tackles in 4 preseason games...impressive.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 03:22 PM

We have to find something good to bet on Crick vs. Worthy 2012.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 03:26 PM

How about if Crick doesn't get 10 sacks you have to jump off the top of Sports Authority Field?

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

How about if Crick doesn't get 10 sacks you have to jump off the top of Sports Authority Field?

Nah, but whoever gets more tackles and sacks wins master OMane GM of the Year award. OMGMOTY

Also if you win, I never mention again that you're emo and deleted several threads, and I never mention Worthy. If I win, you never mention Crick, or my deleted threads.

Here's my proposed trophy:

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 03:47 PM

Stupid trophy.

pricejj · 09-05-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Stupid trophy.

Fine. Fashion a better one.

Requiem · 09-05-2012, 06:23 PM

Bronco Rob · 09-06-2012, 10:31 AM

The Patriots’ offensive line is in shambles since Matt Light retired, Logan Mankins, recovering from knee surgery, Volmer has been suffering from back injuries. Brian Waters arguably the best player left on the team is a no-show.

Let the madness begin!

ozomulsion · 09-06-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

I'm not buying the hype. He finally got his first sack of the preseason in the third game against Tampa Bay's 2nd string. Although, he is reportedly trying to learn some pass-rushing moves, so he has that going for him.

He's too weak too get past Clady. He's too slow to get past Clady. His arms are shorter than Clady's (Jones' primary athletic "attribute"), and he doesn't have any pass rush moves. He couldn't even produce at LDE at Syracuse...what makes you think he's going to do it in the NFL?

I watched him play, and it's pretty obvious the guy will excel as a 3-4 OLB. Obvious to me anyway.

pricejj · 09-06-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ozomulsion

I watched him play, and it's pretty obvious the guy will excel as a 3-4 OLB. Obvious to me anyway.

Was he playing 3-4 OLB in preseason? I was under the impression that the Pats switched to a 4-3.

I should stop trying to find reasons that Jones might not succeed, and just watch to see what happens. Who freaking knows, at this point. It doesn't really matter how good he is, as long as we beat them.

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09-05-2012, 12:14 PM	#77
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	"Easily get blown off the ball in the run game." -- Except, he was an exceptional run defender at Syracuse and has the solo tackles, TFL and has incredible quickness off the snap and was a sure-fire wrap up tackler. Not to mention, he closes in on the line off the edge very well. Sounds like you did your due dilligence on him.

09-05-2012, 12:48 PM	#79
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	You are so the next Mike Mayock. It would make for a great story, before you ran off-screen and deleted yourself.

09-05-2012, 01:03 PM	#81
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	You must have done a little too much meth with Derek Wolfe.

09-05-2012, 02:47 PM	#85
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Hahaha, I love this guy ^ -- even though you hate on DJ and Moreno you make me .

09-05-2012, 03:06 PM	#89
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Does Crick prefer paper or plastic?

09-05-2012, 03:22 PM	#92
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,277	We have to find something good to bet on Crick vs. Worthy 2012.

09-05-2012, 03:26 PM	#93
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	How about if Crick doesn't get 10 sacks you have to jump off the top of Sports Authority Field?

09-05-2012, 03:47 PM	#95
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Stupid trophy.

09-06-2012, 10:31 AM	#98
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	The Patriots’ offensive line is in shambles since Matt Light retired, Logan Mankins, recovering from knee surgery, Volmer has been suffering from back injuries. Brian Waters arguably the best player left on the team is a no-show. Let the madness begin!