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Old 08-29-2012, 06:50 AM   #3551
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His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)
and he got cut, you really think he is going to make 3.8 million?

If you can't see the difference between signing a probowl talent on the cheap (with no cost in draft picks or players) and trading away valuable resources for a top tier player that will want a top tier contract extension as well, not to mention based on the career spans of the 2 positions likely has the same number of effective years left in his career.... Then I don't know how to help you.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:56 AM   #3552
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There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:12 AM   #3553
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There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think
Not in the grand scheme, but someone thought they would like to share that they thought Cooley would be a great cheap upgrade for us.

and then somebody apparently took offense and decided to dump on that player, yet without reasoned discussion.

They could have said....I would like to see how they guys we have perform. It's late in the preseason at this point, Cooley may not be a big enough upgrade to thrust him into the lineup without knowing the offense. Our current guys have a relationship with Manning now, I'd rather just stand pat.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:23 AM   #3554
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If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:26 AM   #3555
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I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:30 AM   #3556
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I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:32 AM   #3557
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He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.
They just gave huge contracts to their 2 studs they already have.. why would they want Cooley?
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:35 AM   #3558
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He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.
It's possible. Football is unpredictable as hell. If it came down to it and we needed him, I'd be for it.

As for NE, I'm starting to think they sign people for ****s and gigs
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He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.
NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.
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NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.
I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:42 AM   #3561
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I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.
They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't
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Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......

.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.
Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:49 AM   #3563
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If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch
Not posting like **** isn't being politically correct. It just requires using that lump of soft tissue positioned between your ears a bit more.

When you arguments against a guy are:
1. "he sucks" when in fact the guy has made a couple pro-bowls and when healthy has still been an effective all around TE.
2. "too old" at 30 years of age when all we need is one season out of him.
3. "too expensive" when he doesn't have a contract and is likely to sign for the vet minimum.

You aren't being politically incorrect. You're just incorrect, which is entirely a product of your own ignorance.

Tamme hasn't looked very good this pre-season at catching the ball and he's never been a good blocker. Virgil Green is out for 4 games to start the year due to his suspension. By most all accounts both Thomas and Ingram have looked like dog **** all camp and pre-season. So that leaves us Dreessen as the only healthy and well rounded TE we can even put on the field.

We need a 3rd TE while we wait for Green to get healthy anyway, why let Thomas or Ingram get the job by default when a vet FA signing has higher upside AND a higher floor?
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They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't
lol, you're a sick man.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:04 AM   #3565
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I wasn't too sure about Cooley however I have to say that Drek and 2Kback have swayed me on this, I actually wouldn't be opposed to it and think it has more upside then down.

As for will it happen? Well probably not but there's also a 21 page thread about the unlikely possibility that MJD signs here. Is it the typical Mane? Yes, absolutely. And that's not a bad thing. I come here to read and write about football. This whole Cooley conversation has actually made some good points about how weak our Denver Broncos, the team we come here to discuss, may actually be at TE.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:12 AM   #3566
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Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.

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Old 08-29-2012, 10:42 AM   #3567
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Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.
I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:45 AM   #3568
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I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.
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I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.
Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo
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Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo
I would rather just keep someone like Thomas and work on developing him myself, so I tend to agree with you.

We do have this amazing fascination with signing any free player though, it's awesome.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:55 AM   #3571
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I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn?

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.
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I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn?

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.
I honestly wouldnt be surprised to see Shanny swipe a blocking TE and possibly some linemen from us for depth.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:21 AM   #3573
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I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.
Its not every player. When there is a decent player cut a position that is generally regarded as one where we are lacking depth, we SHOULD be talking about it.

Gaffney is a good example since the WR depth is sparse after #2.
Same thing is going to be done if we see any decent LBs cut.
I came into this season thinking TE was in great shape but now I am not so sure. Tamme hasn't shown much and make you wonder if his single good season was an apparition. Dreessen was always going to be more in the blocking role relative to the other TEs. Julius Thomas likley is getting cut. Green has some potential but has a suspension. And Ingram hasnt shown enough yet and could likely be PS material. So for a QB like PFM who really likes to use the TE, why wouldnt it be smart to take a look. Downside is you get a guy who is hurt and you cut him and bring up Ingram/Thomas from the PS. Upside is you get the Cooley that has been one of the better pass catching TEs over the past several years, all while never having much at QB. That is a very palatable risk/reward scenario to me.

This is the time of the year where there are those veterans in the 1st cuts where the teams are trying to do them a favor to catch on somewhere else so these next few days are the peak of this.

But I agree that its unlikely we get any of them. If we do, I suspect its at WR, LB or TE. And maybe an outside shot of a veteran to replace Hanie.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:39 PM   #3574
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Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......

.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.
Actually serious as a heart attack..

Had we been in a position to win the next week and we all know we were not then losing the game would have gotten us at least 8 earlier picks in each round.

Ifmyounreallynthink we had a chance to want e Super Bowl with Tebow and this team then trying to explain logic will be over your head..

I'd love to win playoff games IF it leads to going to the Super Bowl.

But alas We played a real team the next week that was unlike PIT that was at about half staff when they hit the third quarter..

I really dislike getting my ass handed to us in the playoffs and Just maybe this team this year will be able to do more,(barring injuries ) but as much as I loved seeing the Broncos play and win that was a hollow at best win and I suspect when the steelers come to play this year they will show their true colors.

I'd have rather lost a close playoff game to PIT and drafted earlier as well as not pissed them off for our opener.

I'm one of those fans that is looking for long term goals not a hollow cheap victory.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:47 PM   #3575
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If we lost to the Steelers and they lost to the Patriots, would Pittsburgh have drafted in our spot and us in their's?
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