University of Colorado analysis predicts Romney win in presidential race

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

What's your point?

I'm pretty sure each party does not want the opposition party to be re-elected...whether they state that or not.

the differance is dems don't act on it in such a way that they put their own ideology/power grabbing above what is best for the country.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by 24champ

Just to be clear, you agree that Obama's economic plan doesn't fix anything?

"Obama's plan"? Seriously? You should probably actually read the article you linked to support your argument. This is about congress, not Obama or his "plan". You're falling for the GOP spin blaming Obama for all of this. Come on, you're smarter than that.

[Rohirrim]

I don't give a ****. I'm still writing in Bernie Sanders.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

the differance is dems don't act on it in such a way that they put their own ideology/power grabbing above what is best for the country.

Oh brother, you have to be kidding. Democrats wrote the book on that.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

To suggest that the obstruction Obama has faced is in anyway comparable with your above examples is simply dishonest.

Lets not do history revisionism.

It is comparable. Reagan and Tip O'neill had some fairly heated exchanges, didn't Tip O'neill reject Reagans request to speak to the House? Sound familiar? Boehner pulled the same move when he objected to the date of Obama speaking. Tip and President Reagan were on the complete opposite ends of the spectrum on just about every policy.

Clinton was up against the same situation with Newt Gingrich (who I don't like) they had budget wars, longest federal government shutdown in US history happened under those two. Then came the Clinton scandal, and needless to say that made things nasty.

Bush Jr. had to deal with Pelosi, both disagreed over the war on terror and funding it. Pelosi didn't exactly have rosy things to say about the President.


This President hasn't dealt with anything unusual, I won't disagree that Republicans have given him a hard time. However, one of Obama's key promises in 2008 was that he would usher in a post partisan era...he's failed to do that. A recent article on this from the WSJ...

Other presidents have more actively wooed members of Congress. President Ronald Reagan in July 1981 flew 14 Democratic members of Congress to Camp David for a barbecue to convince them to vote for his tax cut; their votes became crucial to its passage. Mr. Clinton had a penchant for calling members of Congress of both parties, as well as a host of others, day and night. Mr. Bush occasionally invited members of both parties to the White House theater to watch new-release movies and relied on the support of a handful of Democrats in the run-up to the war with Iraq.

Some of Mr. Obama's friends have tried to persuade him to open up more to both friends and foes in Congress. Republicans pointedly complained that after he was elected, Mr. Obama didn't meet one-on-one with either Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell or House Speaker John Boehner for nearly two years. After election losses in 2010, White House officials considered inviting Republicans to Camp David but never did so.

Democrats, who controlled the White House and Congress, wanted to make changes to the bill, including expanding eligibility for legal immigrant children. That upset two crucial Republicans, Sens. Charles Grassley of Iowa and Orrin Hatch of Utah, who had defied their party's leadership by voting to override the Bush veto. They supported the legislation but not the changes.

Mr. Grassley, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, made a quiet offer to Democrats: Move the bill out of committee without the immigration provision and then restore it with an amendment on the Senate floor, according to aides. That would let Mr. Grassley, and maybe others, go on record against the immigrant provision while supporting the overall legislation.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Democrat, supported the idea, partly as an effort to build good will, aides said. Democrats were counting on both men as possible backers of more consequential health-care legislation coming later that spring. But the incoming White House squashed it, according to multiple aides in both parties. The White House directed Mr. Baucus to incorporate the changes into the legislation.

Messrs. Grassley and Hatch voted no on the bill, which passed just days after the inauguration. A White House official said the Grassley plan was rejected because it wasn't clear whether Democrats had the 60 votes needed to add the amendment.

The decision had consequences. Republicans would bring the story up whenever Mr. Grassley suggested working with the White House, particularly on health care, GOP aides said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...668425562.html

[Requiem]

champ why do you gotta be for mittens?

[BroncsRule]

Originally Posted by Requiem

champ why do you gotta be for mittens?

Being "for' intelectual honesty and "against" revisionism doesn't necesasrily make one "for' or "against" either of the current dirtbags running..

Just sayin'.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncsRule

Being "for' intelectual honesty and "against" revisionism doesn't necesasrily make one "for' or "against" either of the current dirtbags running..

Just sayin'.

nice to see you showing your colors.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by BroncsRule

Being "for' intelectual honesty and "against" revisionism doesn't necesasrily make one "for' or "against" either of the current dirtbags running..

Just sayin'.

Stupidest **** I heard since Thursday night.

[pricejj]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

the differance is dems don't act on it in such a way that they put their own ideology/power grabbing above what is best for the country.

Lulz. Nothing that Obama or the Socialists have done for the past 4 years is good for the country.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

the differance is dems don't act on it in such a way that they put their own ideology/power grabbing above what is best for the country.

It's pretty funny that a follower of either party could bring themselves to say something this hopelessly naive.

[peacepipe]

you missed my point. Have dems filibustered before? yes. but not to the extreme that reps have.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by pricejj

Lulz. Nothing that Obama or the Socialists have done for the past 4 years is good for the country.

From the sick, twisted, pathetic, neo-Nazi point of view of today's Right, the killing of Osama bin Laden wasn't a good thing.

You wingnuts are just plain ****ed in the head. WTF happened to you guys?

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by W*GS

From the sick, twisted, pathetic, neo-Nazi point of view of today's Right, the killing of Osama bin Laden wasn't a good thing.

You wingnuts are just plain ****ed in the head. WTF happened to you guys?

neo-Nazi? Really?

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by W*GS

From the sick, twisted, pathetic, neo-Nazi point of view of today's Right, the killing of Osama bin Laden wasn't a good thing.

You wingnuts are just plain ****ed in the head. WTF happened to you guys?

Dude, you're severely unhinged.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

neo-Nazi? Really?

OK, that was over the top. I should have used "proto-fascist".

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Dude, you're severely unhinged.

I ain't the one believing that Obama is some sort of Marxist Kenyan-born destroyer-of-America. That's the mainstream of your party these days.

That's insane.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Strongly leaning? Obama's lead is shrinking by the day in these states. In MI and WI Obama is looking at trouble. To say it's strongly blue isn't the case.

But at you calling these guys idiots when they have been doing this since 1980 and predicted correctly each time.

When are you gonna learn morons are morons are morons.

Never say bad against bad the moons will pounce.

Got to remember they get their daily bullet points and never question them. Just regurgitate.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Got to remember they get their daily bullet points and never question them. Just regurgitate.

There's today's Right in a nutshell.

Amazing how what Rushbo says gets repeated all over the 'Net in a very short time, across blogs, media comment sites, etc. etc.

It's amazingly coordinated.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by W*GS

There's today's Right in a nutshell.

Amazing how what Rushbo says gets repeated all over the 'Net in a very short time, across blogs, media comment sites, etc. etc.

It's amazingly coordinated.

Here we are Wild Ass Guess responding. Who would have figured.

If your talking about Rush I have not listened to him in 5 years.

I get the same talking points just to see what you morons are gonna say.
Aufwiederschein from Germany

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Requiem

champ why do you gotta be for mittens?

Simply put, he's the guy that will turn this country around based on his record at Bain, Winter Olympics, and as Governor of MA.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by 24champ

Simply put, he's the guy that will turn this country around based on his record at Bain, Winter Olympics, and as Governor of MA.

Bain? Gutting companies for his own personal profit and hiding the cash overseas.

Winter Olympics? Thanks to taxpayer subsidy.

Governor of MA? You mean running away from Romneycare.

Three strikes - he's out.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by 24champ

Simply put, he's the guy that will turn this country around based on his record at Bain, Winter Olympics, and as Governor of MA.

Bain? Gutting companies for his own personal profit and hiding the cash overseas.

Winter Olympics? Thanks to taxpayer subsidy.

Governor of MA? You mean running away from Romneycare.

Three strikes - he's out.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Bain? Gutting companies for his own personal profit and hiding the cash overseas.

Winter Olympics? Thanks to taxpayer subsidy.

Governor of MA? You mean running away from Romneycare.

Three strikes - he's out.

Obama as President:

Failed to lower unemployment below 8 despite claiming the stimulus would do so.

Ballooned our national deficit.

Squandered millions in tax payers $ to failed green initiatives.

And that's only three.

But...3 strikes and you're out!

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Obama as President:

Failed to lower unemployment below 8 despite claiming the stimulus would do so.

Ballooned our national deficit.

Squandered millions in tax payers $ to failed green initiatives.

And that's only three.

But...3 strikes and you're out!

Obama can't fix in four what it took your boy Bush to **** up in eight, especially facing a Republican insurgency, the sole purpose of which is to get that black man out of the White House.

Your GOP has put party before country, and that's why things are so messed up right now. When you gonna unwrap Norquist's hands from around your balls?

PS - Bush pissed away trillions on two wars. You never complained about that, boy.