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Old 08-23-2012, 09:57 AM   #276
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That would be nice, my only worry is how much will it cost to put MJD in a Broncos uni. I just can't get past a first round pick and I'm not really thrilled about giving away a second round pick either.

Off the top of my head I cannot remember a big trade for a used RB that ever really panned out for the team receiving said RB. Perhaps Indy back in the 1980s when they got Dickerson?

Can anyone help out on any trades in the past 20 years or so where this worked out well for the team getting the RB?
Just off the top of my head, Marshall Faulk to the Rams worked out great for St Louis.
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Just off the top of my head, Marshall Faulk to the Rams worked out great for St Louis.
Yep, that did work out well for the Rams. Can you think of any other trades that panned out well for the team receiving the RB?
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Not really, it's very rare that a team has such a proven stud RB willing to trade him. I can't think of any recent trades that exactly went bad for the receiving team either. Not for a back of MJD's caliber.
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Was Allen traded? I don't remember if he was traded or not. Faulk did work out well and Dickerson did good with the Colts but I have no idea what the Colts gave up to get Dickerson.

Lynch is interesting, what did the hawks give up to get him? That could be a clue as to what the Jags will want for MJD.
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Marcus Allen

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Eric Dickerson

Lynch to the Sea chickens.
Wow, Hawks gave up relatively nothing for Lynch:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/M...-Buffalo-Bills

I think this validates my point about what MJD is worth in a trade, yes?
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Wow, Hawks gave up relatively nothing for Lynch:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/M...-Buffalo-Bills

I think this validates my point about what MJD is worth in a trade, yes?
No, Lynch has law trouble.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8177533
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no wonder petey traded for him.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:22 AM   #284
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Yep, that did work out well for the Rams. Can you think of any other trades that panned out well for the team receiving the RB?
Corey Dillon was traded from the Bengals to the Patriots after the 2003 season. He was an all world back for six straight seasons, was then injured for much of 2003 but still played in 13 games. He cost the Pats a 2nd round pick and turned 30 in October of his first year with them.

He only played for New England from '04 to '06 but '04 was the best year of his career and they won the Super Bowl that season.

MJD is three years younger than Dillon was and is a more versatile back, an ideal fit for our system.

If I was running the Broncos FO I'd offer a conditional pick that is a first rounder if the Broncos make the playoffs and is a 2nd rounder if not.
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Corey Dillon was traded from the Bengals to the Patriots after the 2003 season. He was an all world back for six straight seasons, was then injured for much of 2003 but still played in 13 games. He cost the Pats a 2nd round pick and turned 30 in October of his first year with them.

He only played for New England from '04 to '06 but '04 was the best year of his career and they won the Super Bowl that season.

MJD is three years younger than Dillon was and is a more versatile back, an ideal fit for our system.

If I was running the Broncos FO I'd offer a conditional pick that is a first rounder if the Broncos make the playoffs and is a 2nd rounder if not.
ok, but what did NE give up in the trade? That's kind of important don't you think?
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Portis ran well for the skins.
thanks for proving my point. The idiot Skins gave up a HoF CB and a second round pick.

No way in hell was Portis worth it.
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Regarding the draft picks being cost-prohibitive, I found this pretty interesting today:

It's really hard to overstate just how valuable first-round draft picks are in the NFL. Using that classic draft value chart, Washington gave St. Louis more value for the rights to draft Robert Griffin III than the Giants gave San Diego for Eli Manning, or the Falcons gave San Diego for Michael Vick. And those picks are worth even more now than they were in 2001 or 2004 because of the new slot-controlled salaries for first-round picks. There's no way Griffin can live up to the hype without making double-digit Pro Bowls. An essay by the Harvard Sports Analysis Collective suggested that for the Redskins to get equivalent value for the picks they gave up, Griffin will need a career as productive as Tom Brady's.

http://deadspin.com/5936266?utm_camp...ium=socialflow
Apples and oranges. Those were all high first round picks for top NFL QBS.

Were are talking Denver's 1st which will be in the mid 20's. There is so much fail in the 20's that it would be a wise move to sacrifice that selection for the best RB in the NFL as of last year.
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More proof that MJD is not worth much in a trade:

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/16/sp...k-to-rams.html

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thanks for proving my point. The idiot Skins gave up a HoF CB and a second round pick.

No way in hell was Portis worth it.
Lol the Skins got raped. If you think that trade sets the standard asking price you are nuts. RBs being easier to find changes the trade value so your question isn't really valid.
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Apples and oranges. Those were all high first round picks for top NFL QBS.

Were are talking Denver's 1st which will be in the mid 20's. There is so much fail in the 20's that it would be a wise move to sacrifice that selection for the best RB in the NFL as of last year.


Dude, he aint' worth a first round pick. The friggen Rams traded a 2nd and a 5th for Marshall Faulk.
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More proof that MJD is not worth much in a trade:

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/16/sp...k-to-rams.html

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Lol all you are doing is arguing that it should be easier for us to get MJD not that MJD is worth nothing
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Wow, Hawks gave up relatively nothing for Lynch:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/M...-Buffalo-Bills

I think this validates my point about what MJD is worth in a trade, yes?
Yeah, but we got Maroney in a trade that same year, so... yeah... doin' pret-tay, pret-tay good over here, too.
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Lol the Skins got raped. If you think that trade sets the standard asking price you are nuts. RBs being easier to find changes the trade value so your question isn't really valid.
I disagree, I think the skins did get raped on that trade, especially when you consider the money they had to give Portis. Compare the careers of Champ and Portis and you have to wonder why the skins parted with a HoF CB, and a second round pick, for a RB that did "ok" for them.
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Lol all you are doing is arguing that it should be easier for us to get MJD not that MJD is worth nothing
I'm saying MJD is not worth much in a trade which what I have been saying from the beginning.

Go back and look at all my posts, please.

I've never said I don't want MJD, I've simply said I wouldn't give much up for the guy in a trade.
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Obviously, if you can pick up a quality back on the cheap that's ideal. However, when you have a 2-year window to build a Superbowl contending team around your 36-year-old QB and you only have one decent proven back on the roster, and that back is north of 30, you better do something. If Willis breaks a rib, I really don't want to read the words starting RB Lance Ball. Especially, with the brutal schedule on the horizon.
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Dude, he aint' worth a first round pick. The friggen Rams traded a 2nd and a 5th for Marshall Faulk.
So it should cost a couple OL players to get Luck from the Colts then? I mean it worked before right?
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Obviously, if you can pick up a quality back on the cheap that's ideal. However, when you have a 2-year window to build a Superbowl contending team around your 36-year-old QB and you only have one decent proven back on the roster, and that back is north of 30, you better do something. If Willis breaks a rib, I really don't want to read the words starting RB Lance Ball. Especially, with the brutal schedule on the horizon.
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If we had a young QB starting it would be a completely different story and I would actually probably be against trying to acquire MJD, but our window of opportunity is not very big so if there is a chance to add ELITE offensive talent, you do it
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I'm saying MJD is not worth much in a trade which what I have been saying from the beginning.

Go back and look at all my posts, please.

I've never said I don't want MJD, I've simply said I wouldn't give much up for the guy in a trade.
If the asking price is a first you make the trade. If its less you make the deal. You can't say to them well Lynch went for a 4th a few years ago and Faulk went for this 15 years ago so here is our best offer.
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