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[SouthStndJunkie]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

that is a ryan leaf caliber bust.

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by lonestar

We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

You do understand that not all players pass through waivers, right?

[SouthStndJunkie]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

[cmhargrove]

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Insert gratuitous pic of Cooley's weenie here. Or don't.

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Wow, I've always liked his game. One of the few Redskins I could stand

[uplink]

speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-running-back/

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by uplink

speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-running-back/

Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it.

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it.

wtf u can't be serious

[broncosteven]

Originally Posted by uplink

speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-running-back/

Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by broncosteven

Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

shhhhhhhhhhhhh! put on your poker face!! The Lions GM might be lurking!

[Jekyll15Hyde]

Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

[cmhargrove]

Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde

Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

[uplink]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

So why is Shanny dumping him?

Maybe he doesn't measure up

[Jekyll15Hyde]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

This article seems to indicate that this the classic veteran 1st cut to let him catch on somewhere else.

"Coach Mike Shanahan said the decision came down to a matter of playing time. Fred Davis, who had a breakout year in 2011, has emerged as the new starting tight end, relegating Cooley to utility duty as a backup at both fullback and tight end during preseason.
"He wants to start. He wants to play," Shanahan said. "And we'll see if he gets that opportunity.... Shanahan said Cooley's release wasn't about health or money.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/83...d-chris-cooley

He was hurt a lot last year so I am not saying that isnt involved here. But if this is to be believed, then we should have a look. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde

Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

He sucks and he is injured often

Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde

. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

lol no

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Poor Bob, he's going through his own version of the McD era with Pioli over there.

[colorado jones]

Originally Posted by lonestar

We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Are you part of the South Korean badminton team?

[Jekyll15Hyde]

Originally Posted by lolcopter

He sucks and he is injured often

Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by lonestar

We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......

.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde

Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by lolcopter

Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Originally Posted by 2KBack

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by lolcopter

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

Too expensive? He doesn't have a freakin contract!

Too old? Aren't you the guy you freaked out about getting MJD because we are in win now mode? Because we have an All-pro QB who is Old, expensive, and was injured all of last year? Cooley is better than Tamme right now, Who has 5 CAREER TD's by the way. Dreesseen and Cooley are the same age and Dreesseen has never shown half the ability of Cooley.

Now....do you happen to have a rebuttal that involves facts or analysis?

Or are you going to stick with, he was hurt twice, and despite being a superior football player to both of our tight ends...he sucks?

His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

Tamme lines up in the slot constantly and has history/rapport with Peyton, Dreessen is the inline blocker, and whoever the third TE we keep is, they'll be far cheaper than Cooley.