Why San Diego Will Win AFC West

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by boltaneer

Malcom Floyd says hi.

Did he pull his hamstring saying hi?

[Rohirrim]

All I saw in that piece was, "May, might, maybe."

[Ambiguous]

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ner-is-a-tool/

Great read.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Ambiguous

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ner-is-a-tool/

Great read.

I ed. Thanks.

[Ironlung]

@ S.D. having the best back in the division.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Ambiguous

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ner-is-a-tool/

Great read.

That is funny.

[Tombstone RJ]

It's really to a point that there are no good sports writers anymore. The interwebz has watered down the talent as the exposure/audience has skyrocketed from the web. Factor in the intense competition to be relevant and you end up with half-assed commentaries like this crap ESPN is shoveling.

I really would have more respect for Joyner and those of his ilk if he just said "I think the Chargers will win the AFCW because I just think they are more talented and I like the team." And be done with it. I can respect his opinion, he doesn't have to try and dazzle everyone with a bunch of crap analysis.

[KCStud]

And if Rivers goes back to his 30 TD 13 INT form like he was 3 years in a row before last season? That might help.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

It's really to a point that there are no good sports writers anymore. The interwebz has watered down the talent as the exposure/audience has skyrocketed from the web. Factor in the intense competition to be relevant and you end up with half-assed commentaries like this crap ESPN is shoveling.

I really would have more respect for Joyner and those of his ilk if he just said "I think the Chargers will win the AFCW because I just think they are more talented and I like the team." And be done with it. I can respect his opinion, he doesn't have to try and dazzle everyone with a bunch of crap analysis.

I dont think its watered down talent as much as keeping up with a 24 hour news cycle.

[boltaneer]

Rivers struggled most of last year because we had a human turnstile at LT until Gaither was signed. After Dielman went down and Gaither and Green took over the left side of the o-line, Rivers went back to putting up big numbers to finish up the season.

Gaither's health is a concern right now and not sure if the backups are any better than the scrub they had out there last year (Dombrowski) so we'll see.

[Broncos4Life]

Originally Posted by Xenos

He's not though. Norv's offense is built on the deep pass and Rivers is the perfect QB for it, which still existed even when VJ was gone for most of the 2010 season. Did you think Rivers magically had 4700 yards during that season on yard after catch alone? It's why SD went after someone like Meacheam because he has that deep threat capability.

Again, I know norv runs it and Phillis operates! And yes he is
magical! Just watch him. Bottom line, I don't believe in Meachem, his
Durability, and therefore I think that this Deep passing attack will take a hit. And this 2010 season you speak of had a better OL to protect PR, not to mention Sproles as an underneath Yac guy that teams had to worry about.

Sorry try again.

[Xenos]

Originally Posted by Broncos4Life

Again, I know norv runs it and Phillis operates! And yes he is
magical! Just watch him. Bottom line, I don't believe in Meachem, his
Durability, and therefore I think that this Deep passing attack will take a hit. And this 2010 season you speak of had a better OL to protect PR, not to mention Sproles as an underneath Yac guy that teams had to worry about.

Sorry try again.

We had guys like Seyi Tutu and Legadu Nannee go big in 2010 with Rivers. I think even if Meachem isn't completely healthy, he'll still provide that deep threat better than Tutu and Nanae did anyways.

As for the OL question, we had Dombrowski as the Left Tackle for the first quarter of the season before McNeill came back. It's a wash this season if anything.

[cutthemdown]

I wouldn't count on the AFC west being pretty just yet. I still think 9-7 could win the thing. Raiders if McFadden stays healthy can win 9-10 games IMO. If he isn't then that goes way down. They would need the defense to play above their heads but really the whole division up for grabs. If all KC's players come back strong, Charles, Berry, and the FA tackle Winston is worth the money they could make some noise. Chargers IMO still a dangerous team with Gates and Rivers. If its true Gates on a mission then they division in trouble. Great players on a mission can be really dangerous and I do think Rivers and Gates are great players.

But Manning also on a mission. Can't feel good to all the sudden have people saying your little brother is better, you are washed up, one injury filled yr and your team ships you out for Andrew Luck.

He's on a mission also and he plays the most important position. I really think Broncos have a slight edge. Not a lot but a little one.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Xenos

We had guys like Seyi Tutu and Legadu Nannee go big in 2010 with Rivers. I think even if Meachem isn't completely healthy, he'll still provide that deep threat better than Tutu and Nanae did anyways.

As for the OL question, we had Dombrowski as the Left Tackle for the first quarter of the season before McNeill came back. It's a wash this season if anything.

Meachum isn't as good as Jackson though. I think Flloyd has to step up for offnse to click.

[cutthemdown]

Chargers have some players to have a really potent offense IMO. Mathews will have to come through with no help from Tolbert, and Meachum and Floyd will have to step up. If the rumor Gates on fire and poised to reclaim his spot as the elite TE then yeah they could be really dangerous.

Don't think a whole lot of the pass rush or run defense though. They have some nice situational pass rushers but no guys like Doom or Miller.

[DENVERDUI55]

Meacham couldn't produce at a high level against #3 and 4 CB's so I don't fear him much in SD against #1 and 2 CB's. If you can't be a stud with Brees you probably won't with anyone.

[mwill07]

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Meacham couldn't produce at a high level against #3 and 4 CB's so I don't fear him much in SD against #1 and 2 CB's. If you can't be a stud with Brees you probably won't with anyone.

good point - Meachem was the #3 WR last year, and had fewer receptions than the TE and 2 RB's. Yes, he is a good deep threat but hasn't consistently been an all-around WR. I suppose SD has Gates to make those possession-keeping, chain-moving catches, but that's a lot of eggs for an often injured, 32 year old TE to carry.

Honestly though, I think they will miss Tolbert the most. Turner loves to run his screen game, and I'm not sure who will be picking up the slack here.

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Tear it apart, OM.

It just as laughable that Denver Broncos are going to win the AFC west. Both the Chargers and Broncos will be fighting for who drafts first in the draft.

The Afc West is a two team race. Raiders and Chiefs. One of those two teams will be the AFc West champs.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Raider9175

It just as laughable that Denver Broncos are going to win the AFC west. Both the Chargers and Broncos will be fighting for who drafts first in the draft.

The Afc West is a two team race. Raiders and Chiefs. One of those two teams will be the AFc West champs.

you're a smart one.

I imagine after the Raiders start 0-2 or 1-3 we will not hear from you until next summer's proclamation of excellance.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by Raider9175

It just as laughable that Denver Broncos are going to win the AFC west. Both the Chargers and Broncos will be fighting for who drafts first in the draft.

The Afc West is a two team race. Raiders and Chiefs. One of those two teams will be the AFc West champs.

You think pick 6 Palmer can win this division? He was a good qb til he got his knee busted up but its more likely he just caught lightning in a bottle for 2 seasons.

[Ironlung]

Originally Posted by Raider9175

It just as laughable that Denver Broncos are going to win the AFC west. Both the Chargers and Broncos will be fighting for who drafts first in the draft.

The Afc West is a two team race. Raiders and Chiefs. One of those two teams will be the AFc West champs.

This post is hilarious! Oak and KC will be battling...for last place. Mark it down.

So you think either the Broncos or Chargers will be THE WORST team in the whole league!?!? Thats one of the most laughable claims a raider fan has ever made! & thats saying a lot.

In just one post you've managed to prove you know absolutely nothing about football...Congrats

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Bacchus

you're a smart one.

I imagine after the Raiders start 0-2 or 1-3 we will not hear from you until next summer's proclamation of excellance.

Exactly.

[boltaneer]

Originally Posted by mwill07

good point - Meachem was the #3 WR last year, and had fewer receptions than the TE and 2 RB's. Yes, he is a good deep threat but hasn't consistently been an all-around WR. I suppose SD has Gates to make those possession-keeping, chain-moving catches, but that's a lot of eggs for an often injured, 32 year old TE to carry.

Honestly though, I think they will miss Tolbert the most. Turner loves to run his screen game, and I'm not sure who will be picking up the slack here.

Meachem hasn't lived up to his potential yet but in defense of him, there were too many weapons in New Orleans to feed everyone the ball. This is the year for him to shut up his critics. But he doesn't have to be an all around receiver. Jackson was a one trick pony being a deep threat and that's Meachem's claim to fame as well. They have guys like Brown, Royal and Floyd to fill the other voids.

Everyone thinks the deep ball will be in trouble, but if you look at Jackson and Floyd, they were equally as productive on "bombs" thrown over 40 yards.

Mathews is more dangerous on screens than Tolbert, easily. Honestly, Ronnie Brown is a great replacement for Tolbert. Different kind of back but a proven dependable RB. Tolbert had the same fumbling issues as Mathews. He was just more durable than him.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by boltaneer

Meachem hasn't lived up to his potential yet but in defense of him, there were too many weapons in New Orleans to feed everyone the ball. This is the year for him to shut up his critics. But he doesn't have to be an all around receiver. Jackson was a one trick pony being a deep threat and that's Meachem's claim to fame as well. They have guys like Brown, Royal and Floyd to fill the other voids.

Everyone thinks the deep ball will be in trouble, but if you look at Jackson and Floyd, they were equally as productive on "bombs" thrown over 40 yards.

Mathews is more dangerous on screens than Tolbert, easily. Honestly, Ronnie Brown is a great replacement for Tolbert. Different kind of back but a proven dependable RB. Tolbert had the same fumbling issues as Mathews. He was just more durable than him.

He should of been a lot more productive in an Offense where their QB just smashed the single season yardage record. There are plenty of #3 WR who have produced 1000 yards. He could of and should of taken over for Lance Moore.

[Xenos]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Meachum isn't as good as Jackson though. I think Flloyd has to step up for offnse to click.

That's not what I'm saying though to the other poster. I'm saying that our deep game will still be there even without Jackson. In no way do I think that Meachem is better than Jackson at this point. Now whether he ends up thriving in this offense more than Jackson is another question altogether (one that I don't know but hope for the best).

The area we may miss VJ is redzone, though he wasn't the same after 2009.