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Old 08-06-2012, 08:42 PM   #26
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there's a lot of made-up stats here.

VYPA, GBYPA, forced bad decision rate, and kiper draft grades...wow.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:48 PM   #27
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was going to say this but you beat me to it..

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Old 08-06-2012, 08:58 PM   #28
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:02 PM   #29
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I could see them doing it. I really think the 2013 season is where we will make a run if we do.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:08 PM   #30
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Seriously, I almost choked (like the Chargers...).

The Chargers could very well win the division, but i suspect they will really miss Vincent Jackson. When you watch the film, much of Rivers' vaunted "deep passing game" has been chucking it up for Jackson. Jackson makes a huge difference downfield, and it will decrease Rivers' yards per pass average.
This what I said a month ago and a poster came along....cant remember who, and basically said that VJ wasnt the reason for the Chargers being able to go deep, and that it was Phillis. I completely agree with you. All those 'highlights" of the deep variety were to VJ. I don't think there is a player that can take his place.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:07 PM   #31
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The Chargers problems are mainly playing down to their competition. They might be the most talented team in the division, but they can't afford to not get up for all of their opponents. At times, they look like a championship caliber team and at other times they look like one of the worst ten teams in the league. Bring consistency and they will be a tough team to beat out. Best draft in the division as well, so that should definitely help them out
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:11 PM   #32
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This what I said a month ago and a poster came along....cant remember who, and basically said that VJ wasnt the reason for the Chargers being able to go deep, and that it was Phillis. I completely agree with you. All those 'highlights" of the deep variety were to VJ. I don't think there is a player that can take his place.
He's not though. Norv's offense is built on the deep pass and Rivers is the perfect QB for it, which still existed even when VJ was gone for most of the 2010 season. Did you think Rivers magically had 4700 yards during that season on yard after catch alone? It's why SD went after someone like Meacheam because he has that deep threat capability.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:15 PM   #33
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This what I said a month ago and a poster came along....cant remember who, and basically said that VJ wasnt the reason for the Chargers being able to go deep, and that it was Phillis. I completely agree with you. All those 'highlights" of the deep variety were to VJ. I don't think there is a player that can take his place.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:34 PM   #35
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Broncos are the media darlings. Everything on ESPN is Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow.

NFL Live segment over the AFC West was 90% Peyton Manning, 7% Tim Tebow, 1% Chargers, 1% Chiefs and 1% Raiders.
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Broncos are the media darlings. Everything on ESPN is Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow.

NFL Live segment over the AFC West was 90% Peyton Manning, 7% Tim Tebow, 1% Chargers, 1% Chiefs and 1% Raiders.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:02 PM   #37
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Broncos are the media darlings. Everything on ESPN is Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow.

NFL Live segment over the AFC West was 90% Peyton Manning, 7% Tim Tebow, 1% Chargers, 1% Chiefs and 1% Raiders.
It doesn't really have as much to do with the Broncos as it does Manning. If a first ballot HOF signed anywhere else with the same questions about his impact/health, they'd be the main topic of discussion as well.

There's a lot of people that aren't sold on the Broncos, and don't think they'll be much better then they were last year record wise.
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Broncos are the media darlings. Everything on ESPN is Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow.

NFL Live segment over the AFC West was 90% Peyton Manning, 7% Tim Tebow, 1% Chargers, 1% Chiefs and 1% Raiders.
Chiefs left out again just like when Peyton would not return their calls.......BOOHOO

That what happens when your team has sucked ASS for so long....................
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AFC west literally up for grabs again. No clear front runner or cellar dweller.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:03 AM   #40
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That was a pure piece of garbage I read. First off, Rivers was trash last year. He had a lot of passing yards and 27 TD's, but 20 interceptions? Yikes. Just wasn't that good last year.
And I think losing a Pro Bowl WR will hurt, how much? Don't know.

I love these new stats, I got a good chuckle out of them too. Good blocking yards per attempt, awesome lol. Also ASSUMING guys drafted perform, lol.

Now, I know Manning is a big IF. However, that garbage I read really passes for journalism today? Its like, lets look at the most acute stats to try to make this one team seem better than all the others.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:12 AM   #43
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Using fantasy football as metric of overall QB play is like using madden, it just destroys the credibility of the writer. Having the audacity to say that Phillip Rivers is better than Peyton Manning because of YPA and TDs, without considering accuracy and situation demonstrates a nieve statistic centric view. This is BS.
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Only this man has the POWER to make a Super Bowl team Mediocre I tip my hat to this man Thank you Mr. Turner for making the Chargers so sooo whats the word I'm looking for ......
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:27 AM   #45
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I thought it was a pretty good well thought out piece. I think the big issue for S.D. is one they will have to be able to stop Denver's running game and #2 I think their LBers are not a strenth and how will Denver's TEs fair in the matchup. I believe Denver's TE's will exploit the Charger's defense.

But I thought the article was pretty well thought out. Much better than a Burger Bill piece.
True, but to be better than a Bill Williamson piece, all you have to do is do a little research and than write better than a drunk scribbling on a bar napkin.
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He's not though. Norv's offense is built on the deep pass and Rivers is the perfect QB for it, which still existed even when VJ was gone for most of the 2010 season. Did you think Rivers magically had 4700 yards during that season on yard after catch alone? It's why SD went after someone like Meacheam because he has that deep threat capability.
Has Meachem learned to catch yet?
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The Chargers problems are mainly playing down to their competition. They might be the most talented team in the division, but they can't afford to not get up for all of their opponents. At times, they look like a championship caliber team and at other times they look like one of the worst ten teams in the league. Bring consistency and they will be a tough team to beat out. Best draft in the division as well, so that should definitely help them out
A lot of truth to this.

Just look at their final three games last season.

Stomped the Ravens

Got embarrassed by the Lions.

Beat the 'win and yer in' Raiders convincingly.

The game against the Lions, which the Chargers HAD to win to keep their playoff hopes alive, wasn't just a loss... it was a BEATDOWN.

Vegas makes a lot of money off people who think they know which Charger team is going to show up in a given week.
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The Chargers should be able to keep a pretty strong cluster of wideouts and tight ends from the pool they have on their camp roster. Receiving won't be their Achilles' Heel... pass protection will.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:09 AM   #50
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Chargers will get 9-10 wins this year, I see the whole divison being very close actually.
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