tebow sucks

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Beavis might be Becky for griese in disguise.

It's just good to know that nobody can question ****ty playcalling anymore because you can always just fall back on "Hey, he mighta audibled on all those!"

Setting aside all the jokes I've heard here about Tebow never being allowed. I sincerely doubt Mastermind Mike would sit happily by while Tim audibled to a run play from a 3rd and short pass call (for the 3rd time all season)

And even if it happened 2 or 3 times, still doesn't touch the point. But hey, you're not concerned with the actual issue. Teebs just can't fro spyros.

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

Circular logic. You assume it didn't work in practice because they didn't try it in the game. And they didn't try it in the game because it didn't work in practice.

Success comes from unpredictability.

Most OC's understand that throwing on 3rd and short is important every now and again to keep defenses honest. If you're doing it 2 times a season, there's no reason for a defense not to put 9 on the line on every 3rd and short. It's not like we were converting every 3rd and short. It was pretty frustrating watching them fall short while running straight into the teeth of midfield goal line defenses on virtually every 3rd and short.

Interesting you used the word circular. Which also can be used in describing Tebows drop back technique. It's cut and dry. If the passing plays looked absolutely horrible in practice, which they did, they aren't going to call them in a game. Couple that in with the actual passing plays that we're called, but tebow chose to run instead of pass. Listen in on a jets practice. You can actually hear jets fans screaming for him to throw it. When there is no pass rush. On a sunny day with calm wind. With a brand new football.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

It's just good to know that nobody can question ****ty playcalling anymore because you can always just fall back on "Hey, he mighta audibled on all those!"

Setting aside all the jokes I've heard here about Tebow never being allowed. I sincerely doubt Mastermind Mike would sit happily by while Tim audibled to a run play from a 3rd and short pass call (for the 3rd time all season)

And even if it happened 2 or 3 times, still doesn't touch the point. But hey, you're not concerned with the actual issue. Teebs just can't fro spyros.

Ummm, what?!? If it happens just 3 times over the entire course of the season, that changes the run/pass ratio from 20:1 to 7.4:1. That's a HUGE difference.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Ummm, what?!? If it happens just 3 times over the entire course of the season, that changes the run/pass ratio from 20:1 to 7.4:1. That's a HUGE difference.

3 is unlikely. But even giving you that, 5 passing attempts on 3rd and short would still be multiples less than any example you were able to come up with...

Bradford... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 12 on 3rd and short (3.83 to 1)
Brees........59 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3.69 to 1)
Rogers..... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3 to 1)
Brady........56 attempts on 3rd and long, 22 on 3rd and short (2.55 to 1)

Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 2 on 3rd and short ( 21.5 to 1)

Beantown's fantasy
Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 5 on 3rd and short (8.6 to 1)

Pretty obscene any way you slice it.

[orangeatheist]

[BroncoBeavis]

If I counted right, I think this thread has earned me 10 TGN NegReps.

Which might make it the greatest thread I've ever been involved in.

[HAT]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

3 is unlikely. But even giving you that, 5 passing attempts on 3rd and short would still be multiples less than any example you were able to come up with...

Bradford... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 12 on 3rd and short (3.83 to 1)
Brees........59 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3.69 to 1)
Rogers..... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3 to 1)
Brady........56 attempts on 3rd and long, 22 on 3rd and short (2.55 to 1)

Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 2 on 3rd and short ( 21.5 to 1)

Beantown's fantasy
Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 5 on 3rd and short (8.6 to 1)

Pretty obscene any way you slice it.

Hey look...alpha sierra is back!

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

3 is unlikely. But even giving you that, 5 passing attempts on 3rd and short would still be multiples less than any example you were able to come up with...


Brees........59 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3.69 to 1)
Rogers..... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3 to 1)
Brady........56 attempts on 3rd and long, 22 on 3rd and short (2.55 to 1)

Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 2 on 3rd and short ( 21.5 to 1)

Beantown's fantasy
Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 5 on 3rd and short (8.6 to 1)

Pretty obscene any way you slice it.

Tebow belongs nowhere in the discussion with these QB's. He should be taking handoffs from them.

Since we are using stats how about this one? This list is pretty damn accurate.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

[errand]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

No, I relied on play descriptions, where the word "Scrambles" is used to describe a QB running on a pass call. That description was never used on a Tebow 3rd and short. But there were 10 instances of it on 3rd and 3 or more.

a simple "No, I don't know..." would've sufficed

[errand]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

3 is unlikely. But even giving you that, 5 passing attempts on 3rd and short would still be multiples less than any example you were able to come up with...

Bradford... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 12 on 3rd and short (3.83 to 1)
Brees........59 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3.69 to 1)
Rogers..... 48 attempts on 3rd and long, 16 on 3rd and short (3 to 1)
Brady........56 attempts on 3rd and long, 22 on 3rd and short (2.55 to 1)

Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 2 on 3rd and short ( 21.5 to 1)

Beantown's fantasy
Tebow......43 attempts on 3rd and long, 5 on 3rd and short (8.6 to 1)

Pretty obscene any way you slice it.

Yeah, but you fail to mention the guys who are highlighted can actually throw the ball accurately...in practice and in the games. The other guy can't...and THAT is what is obscene...anyway you slice it.

[broncosteven]

This is for BroncoBeavis



You can watch Timmy running shirtless in the rain here

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201...attention.html




BB I do like your non-Timmy posts, this is meant in good clean (shirtless) fun.

[Missouribronc]

People are really still blaming play calling for poor play? Seriously, how stupid is that?

[baja]

Originally Posted by broncosteven

This is for BroncoBeavis



You can watch Timmy running shirtless in the rain here

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201...attention.html




BB I do like your non-Timmy posts, this is meant in good clean (shirtless) fun.

Geez Tim don't ya know enough to get out of the rain?

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

People are really still blaming play calling for poor play? Seriously, how stupid is that?

People? One guy is. Well used to be two JHNS but he hasn't been around which is a blessing for all.

[bronco militia]

[Jekyll15Hyde]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

best ever

[DBroncos4life]

I don't see how Sanchez could ever lose his starting job for more then a game to Tebow.

[bombay]

Great to see this garbage in another uniform.

[go_broncos]

I am happy that Tebow is not our QB..But, he is better than Orton.
Tebow better take up another role(like FB/Blocking TE).

[Br0nc0Buster]

He needs to switch positions
It just is not going to happen for him

I have no idea why the Jets feel the need to get him more reps than Mcleroy

[RaiderH8r]

Tebow is the sickest suck that ever sucked and he got this team into the playoffs and beat the Steelers. If Manning doesn't win a SB soon this is a failure.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

Tebow is the sickest suck that ever sucked and he got this team into the playoffs and beat the Steelers. If Manning doesn't win a SB soon this is a failure.

Lol troll.

[errand]

He almost threw a pick six in the red zone....DB dropped it...next play threw it over WR's head into another zip code, which is bad, but had it actually been near the WR, probably would've been picked off (according to the announcers)...later he was flushed from pocket and tried to fire it across his body, and threw it right at the DB, who picked it off.

[DBroncos4life]

Last years Broncos team probably would have won the super bowl had Tebow not handcuffed them.

[errand]

Two minute drill....1:00 left Tebow has Jets on Panthers 40