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Old 07-31-2012, 09:21 AM   #1301
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Yeah yeah, sure.

So when someone in the future says: "GD It! How many more times is McCoy going to run on first down!" They really should have said

"How many times more is McCoy going to run on first down!"

The first is common. The second is an odd use of the phrase.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:27 AM   #1302
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Yeah yeah, sure.

So when someone in the future says: "GD It! How many more times is McCoy going to run on first down!" They really should have said

"How many times more is McCoy going to run on first down!"

The first is common. The second is an odd use of the phrase.
If it doesn't work in practice why put it in the game? Look at the jets camp right now. They are screaming at him to throw the ball. Game time comes what's gonna happen? Run plays cause the passing plays didn't work in practice that week.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:40 AM   #1303
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If it doesn't work in practice why put it in the game? Look at the jets camp right now. They are screaming at him to throw the ball. Game time comes what's gonna happen? Run plays cause the passing plays didn't work in practice that week.
Circular logic. You assume it didn't work in practice because they didn't try it in the game. And they didn't try it in the game because it didn't work in practice.

Success comes from unpredictability.

Most OC's understand that throwing on 3rd and short is important every now and again to keep defenses honest. If you're doing it 2 times a season, there's no reason for a defense not to put 9 on the line on every 3rd and short. It's not like we were converting every 3rd and short. It was pretty frustrating watching them fall short while running straight into the teeth of midfield goal line defenses on virtually every 3rd and short.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:50 AM   #1304
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Most OC's understand that throwing on 3rd and short is important every now and again to keep defenses honest. If you're doing it 2 times a season, there's no reason for a defense not to put 9 on the line on every 3rd and short. It's not like we were converting every 3rd and short. It was pretty frustrating watching them fall short while running straight into the teeth of midfield goal line defenses on virtually every 3rd and short.
And your ENTIRE argument is based off of a flawed statistic. How many times on 3rd and short did Tebow run NOT because a run was called, but because he made the decision not to pass the ball. It's not the OC's fault if a pass is called, but Tebow chooses to run instead. If it happened just 5 or so times all season long, your 20:1 ratio gets completely shot. Just once per game? Even worse.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:00 AM   #1305
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Circular logic. You assume it didn't work in practice because they didn't try it in the game. And they didn't try it in the game because it didn't work in practice.

Success comes from unpredictability.

Most OC's understand that throwing on 3rd and short is important every now and again to keep defenses honest. If you're doing it 2 times a season, there's no reason for a defense not to put 9 on the line on every 3rd and short. It's not like we were converting every 3rd and short. It was pretty frustrating watching them fall short while running straight into the teeth of midfield goal line defenses on virtually every 3rd and short.
Jets have him playing special teams. He is the only qb I've heard of that scrambles from the rush in 7 on 7. He is the hardest worker not named Peyton Manning but he also has been called not the smartest tool in the shed.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:59 AM   #1306
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This tune has been in to top 50 for 8 months. amazing
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:03 AM   #1307
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And your ENTIRE argument is based off of a flawed statistic. How many times on 3rd and short did Tebow run NOT because a run was called, but because he made the decision not to pass the ball. It's not the OC's fault if a pass is called, but Tebow chooses to run instead. If it happened just 5 or so times all season long, your 20:1 ratio gets completely shot. Just once per game? Even worse.
Looked it up. Didn't happen once during Tebow games this season.

27 3rd and shorts (less than 3)

25 called runs
2 called passes
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Jets have him playing special teams. He is the only qb I've heard of that scrambles from the rush in 7 on 7. He is the hardest worker not named Peyton Manning but he also has been called not the smartest tool in the shed.



In light of new studies anyone that plays football will not end up being the sharpest tool in the shed.

But there is help;

http://www.amenclinics.com/dr-amen/l...-damaged-brain
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:11 AM   #1309
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Looked it up. Didn't happen once during Tebow games this season.

27 3rd and shorts (less than 3)

25 called runs
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Sure you did.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:24 AM   #1310
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Sure you did.
I think 7 or 8 were Tebow runs. The rest were RB calls.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:42 AM   #1311
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Ummmm, what? There are actually several scenarios where going 3-3 for 9 yards could benefit the team more than going 1-3 for 12.
Yes...like 3rd and goal from the opponent's 2 three times in a game
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:51 AM   #1312
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I think 7 or 8 were Tebow runs. The rest were RB calls.
So, you checked with the OC on all those plays to determine what was called vs what was run? Damn, you've got some connections. Why have you been holding out on us for so long?
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:00 PM   #1313
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This tune has been in to top 50 for 8 months. amazing
Somewhere Pink Floyd is getting nervous......
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I've never seen anyone defend the indefensible like Beavis has....

Is he the lone idiot that thinks Tebow >>>> Manning?
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:05 PM   #1315
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If it doesn't work in practice why put it in the game? Look at the jets camp right now. They are screaming at him to throw the ball. Game time comes what's gonna happen? Run plays cause the passing plays didn't work in practice that week.
Come game time Tebow will be the personal protector for the punter.
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So, you checked with the OC on all those plays to determine what was called vs what was run? Damn, you've got some connections. Why have you been holding out on us for so long?
He doesn't know....that's why he said "I think...."
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Come game time Tebow will be the personal protector for the punter.
This season is gonna be so entertaining....especially on here
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:09 PM   #1318
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So, you checked with the OC on all those plays to determine what was called vs what was run? Damn, you've got some connections. Why have you been holding out on us for so long?
No, I relied on play descriptions, where the word "Scrambles" is used to describe a QB running on a pass call. That description was never used on a Tebow 3rd and short. But there were 10 instances of it on 3rd and 3 or more.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:12 PM   #1319
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No, I relied on play descriptions, where the word "Scrambles" is used to describe a QB running on a pass call. That description was never used on a Tebow 3rd and short. But there were 10 instances of it on 3rd and 3 or more.
This just gets better and better.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:13 PM   #1320
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He doesn't know....that's why he said "I think...."
"Tebow defies stats!!! He Trixed the Scorekeepers!"
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"Tebow defies stats!!! He Trixed the Scorekeepers!"
There are official stats now for audibles and number of designed passes that turned into runs?!? Learn something every day.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:18 PM   #1322
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:22 PM   #1323
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There are official stats now for audibles and number of designed passes that turned into runs?!? Learn something every day.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201112...ost-playbyplay

Have a look. NFL makes the distinction.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:27 PM   #1324
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Beavis might be Becky for griese in disguise.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:31 PM   #1325
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http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201112...ost-playbyplay

Have a look. NFL makes the distinction.
No, no they don't.

Unless you really believe that there were zero audibles called by either QB in that game.....or any other game.
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