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![]() Deflect, Deflect! Now we are comparing Elway? Why don't you just admit Tebow is what he is instead of making excuses. I mean he has to be the first QB I've seen go from a playoff win to ST's.
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If he decides to play other positions, then there is a chance for him to be in the league 5 years from now |
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![]() Ummmm, what? There are actually several scenarios where going 3-3 for 9 yards could benefit the team more than going 1-3 for 12.
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![]() Do what? You just displayed your abject ignorance for all to see. There are numerous scenarios where 3-3 for 9 yards would be a superior outcome to 1-3 for 12 yards. For instance, if those three completions all converted first downs, and the one completion for 12 yards came on 3rd and 17, obviously the former would be better.
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"But a 12 yard completion doesn't do you no good on 3rd and 17!" Great. Now how much better is a 3 yard completion in that instance? I think you're missing the point of what an average is. But it's a perfect analogy for how the haters measured Tebow's performance. They were always putting Tebow in 3rd and 17 in their minds. Orton was only judged on 3rd and 2. ![]() |
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![]() Beavis, you need serious help.
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Clinton Portis was the master of the 100 yard game and often had a nice 5 ypc with us. The problem was, 80 of those yards would come on 3 or 4 carries. The other 15+ carries he'd only get 30 or so yards. That CAN hurt a team more than a guy who spreads his 4 yards per carry out fairly evenly over the course of a full game. A Mike Anderson type. When you need a guy to extend drives and rest the defense, a consistent 4 yard per carry guy can help out a lot more than an all or nothing "home run hitter" can. |
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In any case, a running back who averages 4 yards per carry could very well be superior to a RB who averages 5. If some scat back runs for 500 yards on 100 carries, would you say he was "better" than a workhorse back who got 1400 yards on 350 carries? You aren't very good at this. |
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![]() Beavis is not good at the maths.
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Tim Tebow, 2011 3rd down passing attempts: Less than 3 yards to gain: 2 More than 8 yards to gain: 43 And then morons b**** about his 3rd down conversion percentage. And just for your reference, Kyle Orton was allowed to throw 8 times on 3rd and less than 3, just in his 4.5 games last year. |
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You, however, said that there were ZERO scenarios where our option was better. All we're asking you to do is acknowledge that there are also scenarios where it wouldn't be better to have just that one completion. Why is it so hard for you to just admit you were wrong? |
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When all you have to ask is whether you'd rather have 3 plays for 9 yards or 3 plays for 12 (or 10) |
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![]() Hata challenge of the day. Find any other NFL QB in 2011 who was called on to pass on 3rd and >8 20+ times more than on 3rd and <3.
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OWNED http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits...580/drew-brees |
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![]() and a guy named Tom Brady (56 attempts at 8+ yds to go vs 22 at less than 3 yds to go)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits...2330/tom-brady |
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![]() Aaron Rodgers (48 attempts at 8+ vs 16 at less than 3)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits.../aaron-rodgers Should I go on? |
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