Breaking down the AFC West - Page 18 - The Orange Mane

Irish Stout · 07-30-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

If your QB got hurt this year you'd be doing the same damn thing. Quit acting like a p***Y and admit it. b****.

Do you feel like a big man now?

If our starting QB goes down, it would blow. However, you go on, you play the game and you know your only as good as your record. Whining about it after the fact to opposing fans is a futile and stupid thing to do. No one cares. Every year a team in the NFL gets hit hard with injuries. Its part of the game. Whining about it on our message board doesn't change the fact that your team sucked more than our team last year.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by boltaneer

What kind of reply is this? What does this even have to do with my post? Even you can do better than that.

You said Herm was below average coach. I pointed out his quarterbacks he had to work with. You point out he's a defensive coach? He was never given even a below average quarterback. All of those guys STUNK.

Look at his tenure with the Jets. Playoffs 3 out of 5 years and a 5 and 2 record in the post season. I wouldn't call that below average at all.

The difference was that he had a good (not great) quarterback in Pennington there. Not the garbage he was left to die with in KC.

Now back to Romeo. He hasn't had much to work with in terms of QBs either (except for the one year with Anderson). Cassel, to his credit, continues to play above expectations but he's never shown that he can be a difference maker. I still can't believe the Chiefs continue to pass up drafting a replacement for him. They have a pretty good team all around but it's just being held back by the QB position.

You do realize that Herm was the one who drafted Croyle and brought in Thiggy, right? It was his own doing.

For the last time, tell me what franchise QB the Chiefs could have drafted?

And please dear God, don't say Stafford. There was no way in hell the Lions were giving up the rights to draft this kid. They loved him.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 03:44 PM

bolt, it really depends on who the coach is on the other side of the ball.

For example: in St. Louis Dick Vermeil did what he always did...have the offense rolling. They were one of the most explosive offenses in the league. Lovie Smith was a fantastic counterpart on the defensive side.

In Kansas City, Dick Vermeil had the worst defensive coordinator in NFL history (Greg Robinson) and it showed. The Chiefs were completely one sided.

Circumstance plays a huge role in the a player or coaches career.

This year, KC has Brian Daboll, who has proven he can put a very good running game on the field and create good mismatches. As for the passing game, it hasn't been that great for his offense's, but he's had Colt McCoy and Matt Moore.

I'm not saying Cassel is light years ahead of him, because he's not, but Cassel has proven in half of his years as a starter that he can lead teams to 10 wins if there's good talent around him.

We'll find out how good Daboll's coaching is for sure, but he's coming into a place where he actually has a lot of good players to use everywhere on offense, so who knows?

boltaneer · 07-30-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

You do realize that Herm was the one who drafted Croyle and brought in Thiggy, right? It was his own doing.

For the last time, tell me what franchise QB the Chiefs could have drafted?

And please dear God, don't say Stafford. There was no way in hell the Lions were giving up the rights to draft this kid. They loved him.

Herm was the GM?

Anyway, let's hear you rip Romeo for drafting Frye and Brady Quinn then.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Edwards has been cut because of his injury problems, not because of his lack of talent, dumbass

Teams are really hot after him

retard!!!! I'm sure a team or two as called him but, he drop his phone answering the call.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boltaneer

Herm was the GM?

Anyway, let's hear you rip Romeo for drafting Frye and Brady Quinn then.

Herm loved Croyle. He obviously had a big part in drafting him. Don't try to blame this one all on King Carl. They both had their part in it.

Why would Frye even matter? Derek Anderson played better than him and went on to the pro bowl, so Romeo was smart for going with him.

As for Quinn, there was no reason for Romeo to go with him in 2007. That was the year Andersen had them at 10-6. The next year (Romeo's last), he got action and broke his finger in the 2nd game he played, ultimately ending his season.

Quinn is a tricky QB. He's only played like 13 games and didn't have a real chance at QB.

I give Romeo credit for drafting a first round "franchise" (as most called him) QB. That's more than our organization has done. You can't have a franchise QB if you don't at least try, you know?

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Teams are really hot after him

retard!!!! I'm sure a team or two as called him but, he drop his phone answering the call.

Because of his recent injury history, like I stated. God you're dumb.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Because of his recent injury history, like I stated. God you're dumb.

You do know two NFL teams has worked out Edwards this offseason right?

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

You do know two NFL teams has worked out Edwards this offseason right?

And why don't they want to sign him? Because he hasn't stayed on the field.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

And why don't they want to sign him? Because he hasn't stayed on the field.

Why don't they want to sign him? I'm guessing it's his ONE 1000 yard season in 7 years! He is healthy enough to work out with teams and sign yet only two teams are looking at this "elite" talent as you like to call him.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Why don't they want to sign him? I'm guessing it's his ONE 1000 yard season in 7 years! He is healthy enough to work out with teams and sign yet only two teams are looking at this "elite" talent as you like to call him.

Never said he was elite. Keep twisting those words.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Never said he was elite. Keep twisting those words.

He isn't even good, he is average at best.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He isn't even good, he is average at best.

Yeah he sure is. He's never done anything above average to help his team

Both huge plays that helped his team win in the playoffs. Just stop posting dude.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 06:45 PM

playoffs!
1:45 in.

Awesome player.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 08:15 PM

Yet he still helped his team win playoff games over Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. No big deal

By the way, who won both of those games?

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Yet he still helped his team win playoff games over Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. No big deal

By the way, who won both of those games?

Hey maybe you will get lucky and KC will pick him up to replace Bowe when he is traded. Seem like a wash on over hyped turds with bad hands!

Bacchus · 07-30-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Yet he still helped his team win playoff games over Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. No big deal

By the way, who won both of those games?

Ok, Tom Brady is probably the best QB in NFL history on one of the best teams in NFL history. What are your points? Manning and the Colts weren't as good as Brady and the Pats? Wow, ingenious really.

So what is the Chiefs' record against the Pats and the Colts since Brady came into the League? I know Manning is something like 7-1 against KC.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Ok, Tom Brady is probably the best QB in NFL history on one of the best teams in NFL history. What are your points? Manning and the Colts weren't as good as Brady and the Pats? Wow, ingenious really.

So what is the Chiefs' record against the Pats and the Colts since Brady came into the League? I know Manning is something like 7-1 against KC.

KC 1 Tom Brady's knee 0

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Hey maybe you will get lucky and KC will pick him up to replace Bowe when he is traded. Seem like a wash on over hyped turds with bad hands!

Bowe is better than anyone you trot on the field. Let's be real here homer.

DENVERDUI55 · 07-30-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

KC 1 Tom Brady's knee 0

Joke is on KC! That allowed them to give Cassel the huge contract they gave him.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Bowe is better than anyone you trot on the field. Let's be real here homer.

I bet we have two WRs with better stats then Bowe this year.

maher_tyler · 07-30-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Bowe is better than anyone you trot on the field. Let's be real here homer.

Decker and DT have loads of potential. I think Bowe is a good WR when he wants to be. He hasn't been consistent enough to say he is anything more than above average.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I bet we have two WRs with better stats then Bowe this year.

Every year but 1 (Todd Haley not playing him) he's had 1,000 yard seasons with Matt Cassel, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, and Damon Huard as his QB's. Bowe would rape teams if he had a top 10 QB.

DBroncos4life · 07-30-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Every year but 1 (Todd Haley not playing him) he's had 1,000 yard seasons with Matt Cassel, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, and Damon Huard as his QB's. Bowe would rape teams if he had a top 10 QB.

Maybe KC will trade him to a team with a top 10 QB then.

KCStud · 07-30-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Maybe KC will trade him to a team with a top 10 QB then.

To Miami for their top 10 pick I'm all ears, since that's where he's wanting to go.

We'll see. Baldwin's looked great in OTA's and camp. I think he'll be a good receiver this year.

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07-30-2012, 03:44 PM	#428
KCStud Ring of Famer AmeriStanzi! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,133 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	bolt, it really depends on who the coach is on the other side of the ball. For example: in St. Louis Dick Vermeil did what he always did...have the offense rolling. They were one of the most explosive offenses in the league. Lovie Smith was a fantastic counterpart on the defensive side. In Kansas City, Dick Vermeil had the worst defensive coordinator in NFL history (Greg Robinson) and it showed. The Chiefs were completely one sided. Circumstance plays a huge role in the a player or coaches career. This year, KC has Brian Daboll, who has proven he can put a very good running game on the field and create good mismatches. As for the passing game, it hasn't been that great for his offense's, but he's had Colt McCoy and Matt Moore. I'm not saying Cassel is light years ahead of him, because he's not, but Cassel has proven in half of his years as a starter that he can lead teams to 10 wins if there's good talent around him. We'll find out how good Daboll's coaching is for sure, but he's coming into a place where he actually has a lot of good players to use everywhere on offense, so who knows?

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