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Old 07-23-2012, 09:07 AM   #51
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For the people saying Clady isn't worth the contract, and I'm not saying you're wrong. But who replaces him? Do we trade up in the next draft to take an elite LT?
Nobody. If he plays well this season, franchise him.
If he sucks, he can be replaced by anyone. Suckage is easy to replace.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:44 AM   #52
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Oh right, we can just grab a guy off the street. OMane logic rules.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:54 AM   #53
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For the people saying Clady isn't worth the contract, and I'm not saying you're wrong. But who replaces him? Do we trade up in the next draft to take an elite LT?
I don`t think he`s worth the contract based his performance recently, however I`m not mad at the offer. It`s a supply a demand thing, you`re right there isn`t anyone better right now to replace him with which is why I think he`s being offered such a lucrative contract. I think what most people find baffling, myself included, is that he wants Thomas money. That`s where he`s out of line.
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The Broncos cannot afford to draft an offensive lineman in the first round next year with big holes at linebacker, defensive back and quite possibly again, the defensive line to fill.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:19 AM   #55
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Definitely not the way he played the last two seasons. But his first two seasons in the league, he WAS better than Joe Thomas. The knee injury seems to have taken something out of him. Hopefully, with the knee injury a couple a years in the rearview, he can get back to the Clady of 2008-2009.
He should start the road to recovery by coming to his senses and putting about $28 million guaranteed dollars on that knee and stop playing like a scared little b****. Maybe his footwork is at the bottom of that bag of cash. Whatever. If he holds out for Joe Thomas money he should be ashamed of himself and rightfully laughed out of the locker room.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:55 AM   #56
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Oh right, we can just grab a guy off the street. OMane logic rules.
He said if he sucks and he has played a tier or two less since his injury.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:03 AM   #57
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That's a really strong offer, given Clady's injury history. Pat musta hit up the King Soopers Coinstar and cashed in some loose change on a trip to buy some knockoff brand bourbon.

If Clady balks at this contract, when the time comes you might as well throw the franchise tag on him. Let him prove he's better than Thomas and if he does then you break the bank slightly more to make him the highest paid tackle in the league. I'm sure Pat will pawn some jewelry to make it happen if that is the case.
I may be wrong, but I didn't think Clady had ever missed a game in his career.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:14 AM   #58
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Its more than a fair offer to Clady. However, Clady's agent is playing hardball. Aside from Clady's rook season, his numbers are mediocre at best. Dye is banking on Manning making Clady look much better. I bet no deal is signed and Clady plays this coming season, has a fantastic season and then wants to talk mo money.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:17 AM   #59
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Clady and his agent know their leverage is better due to Manning signing. So they are trying to push envelope.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:22 AM   #60
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The Broncos cannot afford to draft an offensive lineman in the first round next year with big holes at linebacker, defensive back and quite possibly again, the defensive line to fill.
To go along with Rymes post, if he doesn't sign this contract extension, we can franchise tag him next season. That gives us 1 year to draft an OL and then possibly go FA at our other holes (or visa versa).
Clady thinks we have no other option but we have time. It isn't like the DJ Williams situation where he fails a drug test right before TC starts and after the draft (and most FA already picked up to other teams). This is where Elway and company earn thier pay. They need to plan out if he doesn't sign. It makes it easy for all of us if he does sign it and has the form that Clady had his first two seasons. We would be set and now go after DL and linebackers next season.
Clady, be a team player and also realize this contract is sweet for you. Sign now, get the pressure off and perform! If you really want to be a Bronco, your signing this extension will help us improve in the future.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:26 AM   #61
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I may be wrong, but I didn't think Clady had ever missed a game in his career.
No, but his injury didn't help after his first 2 seasons. Here is what he was awarded in 08 and 09.

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Old 07-23-2012, 11:56 AM   #62
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I may be wrong, but I didn't think Clady had ever missed a game in his career.
To clarify, I was referring to the basketball injury and how he was never the same after shredding his knee. He's definitely a tough guy, I just don't think he played at a level worthy of being the highest paid LT in the league the past couple of years. If he plays lights out in a contract year and has a lot of success teaming with Manning, I think you make him the highest paid LT. If he doesn't you cut your losses, grab a comp pick and move on.
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Well, if things don't work out, the Ryan Harris signing might be quite fortuitous. Wasn't Harris a Left Tackle at Notre Dame?
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Just earn the money Clady. That's all we ask...
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:30 PM   #65
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Worthwhile read from IAOFM on the subject, noting the reasons why even thought the Broncos "hold all the cards" they would be wise to get a deal done...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...uarantees-lard
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:39 PM   #66
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Lonestar making some dumb comments on IAOFM!
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:57 PM   #67
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Worthwhile read from IAOFM on the subject, noting the reasons why even thought the Broncos "hold all the cards" they would be wise to get a deal done...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...uarantees-lard
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Broncos are low balling it, based on Cladys production the last few years.
well no shiat, should they overpay him because his first 2 years were good?

I like Clady as much as the next guy, but come on now
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:27 PM   #68
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Clady is not worth 10 million a year. Period.
He'll get over $12 million if Denver waits until next year whether he ius worth it or not. So he is not worth $10 million you let him move to another team because he is not worth it then what do you do for a LT?

Sign him and use you draft and FA to get players you need and not worry about the LT position.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:42 PM   #69
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He'll get over $12 million if Denver waits until next year whether he ius worth it or not.
Could you be more wrong?
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I may be wrong, but I didn't think Clady had ever missed a game in his career.
But the real question is how many of them did he play at 100% for that matter 80%..

he was all pro in his rookie year got hurt and has not been his old self since..

If he does not sign then franchise him and draft or buy his replacement as a FA..

It is not like we need an all pro there in the coming years,, very few passing schemes use the 7 step drop as most have moved to the 3 and very few 5 steps..

he is not worth Joe thomas money becasue he is not near him in quality mught have been had he not doen something stupid like playing basketball in teh off season since then he has been slight above average..

IIRC lead the league in holding call last year..

I think the knee is still not fixed..
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He'll get over $12 million if Denver waits until next year whether he ius worth it or not. So he is not worth $10 million you let him move to another team because he is not worth it then what do you do for a LT?

Sign him and use you draft and FA to get players you need and not worry about the LT position.
You replace him with a draft pick or FA. Clady is easily replaceable.

On the other hand overpaying average players will get you in trouble quick. And yes, I just said Clady is average.
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He'll get over $12 million if Denver waits until next year whether he ius worth it or not. So he is not worth $10 million you let him move to another team because he is not worth it then what do you do for a LT?

Sign him and use you draft and FA to get players you need and not worry about the LT position.
He might get close to $12 million this year if the Broncos buckle. I think the odds are very good that Clady will be signed just because he is too important to the team. IMO of course. If Denver has to spend a draft pick or get a less productive OT in FA than Denver is farther not closer to the SB. Denver needs all their draft picks and FA money spent on helping the team succeed. Not replacing good/great players that are already on the roster.

The money makes no differance. It is all Monopoloy money anyway. Denver is in win now mode and not resigning your best OLman would be a horrible setback.
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did you really just quote yourself?

seriously if you are going to keep an alt account, pay attention
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:33 AM   #74
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You replace him with a draft pick or FA. Clady is easily replaceable.

On the other hand overpaying average players will get you in trouble quick. And yes, I just said Clady is average.
If your willing to pay a player 10 million a year he is not easily replaceable.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:37 AM   #75
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If your willing to pay a player 10 million a year he is not easily replaceable.
I agree....and then some team will overpay if he makes it to free agency
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