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Old 07-19-2012, 09:23 AM   #101
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:37 AM   #102
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Clady was an elite LT in 2009 too, don't know where you're getting the opinion that '09 was "mediocre at best".
Clearly, you're right. I blew that one, messing up my years. That does go against the "lesser QBs than Cutler were what made him look bad" argument that Bacchus or somebody was mentioning earlier.....since 2009 was largely behind Mr Immobile himself.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:49 AM   #103
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You do understand Clady does not have to sign the franchise tag. Do you understand that? All Clady has to do is not sign the Franchise tag and holdout. How long will the Broncos be able to go into the season with Clady not being there? Do you know who Denver's back up LT is?
Yes, but would Clady be willing to not sign the Franchise tag, holdout, and not get paid. I believe the Franchise would be around $9 million.

I say let him play the season, and if he plays at a high level, then give him a long term contract. Otherwise Franchise him, maybe some team will come in and make a play for him and the Broncos get draft picks.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:34 AM   #104
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I have to bring his name up again, but when Clady had Cutler, he was top 3, at least top 5. Can anybody question that? In my estimation, Manning > Cutler with everything except arm strength, especially intelligence pre-snap and post-snap. As somebody pointed out, he messed up his knee, didn't have an offseason and has changed qb's/coaches multiple times. When he is with a top 10 qb, he will be back to his top 5 LT form. (sorry Men's Warehouse) I guarantee it!
I agree, pay him a lot now. Or pay him more next year or risk losing your franchise LT that protects Peyton Manning.

Do not try to go cheap with the health of Peyton Manning.
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Tebow effect.
PFF compensates for the Tebow effect.

In fact, Tebow was credited with several sacks last year that normal observes would assign to the OL.

And Clady was even worse in the rankings than Orlando Franklin.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:12 PM   #106
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:13 PM   #107
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Man, Tebow was credited with 8 sacks, 6 hits and 9 hurries.

That's terribad.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:14 PM   #108
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But you'd take him right.
No, we have two upper echelon OTs.
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:25 PM   #109
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:28 PM   #110
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No, we have two upper echelon OTs.
What two OTs did you sign in the last week? I had not heard KC signed anyone new.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:29 AM   #111
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Clearly, you're right. I blew that one, messing up my years. That does go against the "lesser QBs than Cutler were what made him look bad" argument that Bacchus or somebody was mentioning earlier.....since 2009 was largely behind Mr Immobile himself.
Exactly. The turning point in Clady's career is his knee injury. I'm sure the OL turnover in that time didn't help any either, but it's obvious his single biggest problem was the knee injury and his inability to get back to 100% the last two seasons.

Now maybe this is his new baseline and he'll never get back to 100%, but we can't really assume that since he rushed back in '10 and then didn't even get a real off-season of conditioning to properly rehab the knee in '11.

If the organization thinks he's worth extending it's because they think the knee will finally be 100% again this season and that will allow him to re-establish himself as a top 5 LT. This is very possible.

So if that is likely to happen then the goal should be to get him on a more reasonable contract sooner, before his value skyrockets.
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I'm willing to bet that Clady plays at a top 5 level this season. Any takers?
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:48 AM   #113
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Tebow effect.
Seriously. I think it's going to be a whole different story with Manning.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:55 AM   #114
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I'm willing to bet that Clady plays at a top 5 level this season. Any takers?
Probably not within the Broncos FO, hence why they want to re-up him now before he runs the price up.
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Probably not within the Broncos FO, hence why they want to re-up him now before he runs the price up.
I don't think that that is their primary motivation. It's normal to extend key guys with a year to go on their contracts. I think they'd be doing the same thing now regardless of where exactly his stock was based off of his performance last year. The numbers might change a little, but they'd still be trying to extend him now as opposed to at the end of the season when they either have to rush to sign him or franchise him.
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Laugh all you want. Albert was the #8 pass blocker. Winston was #11.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:59 PM   #117
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Laugh all you want. Albert was the #8 pass blocker. Winston was #11.
Bob arguing with stats and PFF. Clady sucked last year but mainly due to qb. What would you bet that the rankings are much better this year? Wait you don't pay up nevermind.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:32 PM   #118
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Broncos, Ryan Clady continue to negotiate possible contract extension


The $10 million annual average would tie Clady with D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Trent Williams for the league's fourth highest-paid offensive tackle. According to the NFL Players Association, the top-paid tackles, by average annual value: Jason Peters ($12.8 million), Joe Thomas ($11.5 million), Jake Long ($10.6 million), Ferguson and Williams ($10 million).

There is no deadline to reach agreement on an extension, but considering there is injury risk anytime a player steps on the field, there was incentive for Clady to get his new deal done by this morning.



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Old 07-26-2012, 10:00 AM   #119
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Broncos, Ryan Clady continue to negotiate possible contract extension


The $10 million annual average would tie Clady with D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Trent Williams for the league's fourth highest-paid offensive tackle. According to the NFL Players Association, the top-paid tackles, by average annual value: Jason Peters ($12.8 million), Joe Thomas ($11.5 million), Jake Long ($10.6 million), Ferguson and Williams ($10 million).

There is no deadline to reach agreement on an extension, but considering there is injury risk anytime a player steps on the field, there was incentive for Clady to get his new deal done by this morning.



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if he does reinjure the knee he can kiss thst $28,000,000.00 goodbye.. IMO he is a moron..
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The Broncos and left tackle Ryan Clady mutually decided Monday to end contract negotiations until after the 2012 season.

Clady will make $3.5 million in this, the final year of the five-year contract he signed as a rookie in 2008. The Broncos latest known offer to Clady was for five years and $50 million with $28 million in guarantees.

The team's proposal would have tied Clady with the New York Jets' D'Brickashaw Ferguson for the third highest-paid, veteran offensive tackle.




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The Broncos and left tackle Ryan Clady mutually decided Monday to end contract negotiations until after the 2012 season.

Clady will make $3.5 million in this, the final year of the five-year contract he signed as a rookie in 2008. The Broncos latest known offer to Clady was for five years and $50 million with $28 million in guarantees.

The team's proposal would have tied Clady with the New York Jets' D'Brickashaw Ferguson for the third highest-paid, veteran offensive tackle.




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he looks like our franchise guy next year while we draft his replacement.. and save 45 million..
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:09 PM   #122
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Ryan Clady playing at a high level, with a medium-sized contract


Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady assumed — and continues to assume — a huge financial risk when he didn’t take the team’s five-year, $50 million contract offer this summer.

But entering a contract year, and playing perhaps the best football of his career, Clady isn’t getting any cheaper, and that presents a risk for the Broncos as well.

According to Mike Klis of the Denver Post, Clady’s one of two left tackles in the league yet to allow a sack this season (along with Houston’s Duane Brown). And when the blind side he’s protecting belongs to a guy coming off neck surgeries and a year out of football, that protection is invaluable.

So at a time when top tackles are making eight figures on average, Clady’s making the final $3.5 million of his rookie contract.

“I wouldn’t say disappointed, but I definitely wanted to get it done before training camp started,” Clady said of a new contract. “And it didn’t, but I just went out and played. This is my fifth year in the league; I understand it’s a business.

“My job is to go out and play my best every down, every year.”

The Broncos could always use the franchise tag on him the next two years, but they can realize a cap savings by doing a longer deal, and keep an important player happier as well.

While Jason Peters of the Eagles, Joe Thomas of the Browns and Jake Long of the Dolphins all top the $10 million per year average, none of their quarterbacks are in Manning’s class, or in his relative state of mobility.

But Clady insists the lack of a deal isn’t a problem for him this year, to which the Broncos can only breathe a sigh of relief.

“Even if I had been paid, I would have tried to prove I was worth the contract,” Clady said. “There’s always motivation to play hard.”

That’s good news for Manning and the Broncos on several fronts



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Old 11-02-2012, 05:16 PM   #123
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What does Joe Thomas make? That is the deal Clady wanted.

Whatever it is, in hindsight, the Broncos should have paid it as I advised.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:45 PM   #124
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What does Joe Thomas make? That is the deal Clady wanted.

Whatever it is, in hindsight, the Broncos should have paid it as I advised.
7 years, 84 mil, 44 mil guaranteed.
the guaranteed money was the hold up last time during talks.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:46 PM   #125
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No, we have two upper echelon OTs.
Sound more of a moron today rather than a couple of months ago. Lol
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