The Chiefs suck - Page 25 - The Orange Mane

errand · 07-08-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Nah we just laughed at Tebow struggling to get a first down the entire game.

Well, I don't think any of us laughed at that game....maybe threw **** at the TV or cringed anytime he dropped backed to pass.

gotta ask you though...how did you feel when we beat you guys without our top two RB's, and that same struggling QB only completing 2 passes?

and how badly do you think we'll struggle to get a first down this coming season?

errand · 07-08-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

I love how Brokeback fans think the Chiefs new regime is the same as the old. Makes me laugh every time.

Well, actually they are the same....

You had Matt Cassell as your starting QB the past 2 years...and guess what? You've still got Matt Cassell as your starting QB in 2012.You haven't changed the most important position on ANY team now for 3 seasons....why do you think the results will be any better?

See, the Broncos on the other hand look at the roster objectively, and made the changes needed...they demoted Orton and promoted Tebow...went from 4-12 to 8-8, and won the division, and a playoff game. Oh, and that guy that struggled to pick up a first down against you? We replaced him with a first ballot hall of fame QB.

errand · 07-08-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

Totally
21-28 and zero playoff wins since with this "new regime"

What a bunch of badasses

..well, in fairness to him, that is success.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Well, actually they are the same....

You had Matt Cassell as your starting QB the past 2 years...and guess what? You've still got Matt Cassell as your starting QB in 2012.You haven't changed the most important position on ANY team now for 3 seasons....why do you think the results will be any better?

See, the Broncos on the other hand look at the roster objectively, and made the changes needed...they demoted Orton and promoted Tebow...went from 4-12 to 8-8, and won the division, and a playoff game. Oh, and that guy thata struggled to pick up a first down against you? We replaced him with a first ballot hall of fame QB.

Please tell me of any realistic chance Pioli has had to get a good QB since coming to KC in 2009.

broncocalijohn · 07-08-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Please tell me of any realistic chance Pioli has had to get a good QB since coming to KC in 2009.

I would say Manning. We went and got a QB, he had this chance.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

I would say Manning. We went and got a QB, he had this chance.

That's not a realistic chance. Try again.

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Tebow, who was drafted by the other regime, was the reason your season wen t so well (along with beating losing teams on a last place schedule).

The team Elway took over was vastly more talented than the one Pioli took over.

..and Elway has started the ball rolling by jettisoning the guy that struggled and replacing him with a guy that won't need many last minute miracles to win 10-12 games.

07-08-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

That's not a realistic chance. Try again.

Your right, cause he knew the Chiefs suck.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

..and Elway has started the ball rolling by jettisoning the guy that struggled and replacing him with a guy that won't need many last minute miracles to win 10-12 games.

You think this team is winning 12 games next year? You don't have one of the easier schedules in the league this year. You have the hardest.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck in Cali

Your right, cause he knew the Chiefs suck.

Manning went to Denver to play for his mentor, not because of your franchise.

crazyhorse · 07-08-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

So, the Chiefs dont suck because they won a game vs us?

No, we suck. Just less than you do.

Dont believe me?

SCOREBOARD

07-08-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Manning went to Denver to play for his mentor, not because of your franchise.

Man your dense. Even if that is true, its the same thing.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:21 PM

Still waiting for the question to be answered. Who should Pioli of drafted? Sanchez? Puke. Tannehill? Puke.

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Please tell me of any realistic chance Pioli has had to get a good QB since coming to KC in 2009.

Really? You do realize Josh wanted Matt Cassell, and was willing to give up Jay Cutler, don't you?

Your genius Pioli could have swung a deal to land Cutler couldn't he albeit going against conventional wisdom that one never trades within their own division?

Not to mention Kurt Warner was available....he'd have been closer to his old home St. Louis...

He also could have made a deal with the Lions, and traded up to get Stafford...or draft Sanchez with the 3rd overall pick in '09

he could have used the 26th overall pick this past season and selected Andy Dalton, correct?

All of those mentioned have outperformed Matt Cassell....

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Still waiting for the question to be answered. Who should Pioli of drafted? Sanchez? Puke. Tannehill? Puke.

how about trading up from #3 in '09 and selecting Stafford? Or selecting Andy Dalton with the 26th overall in '11?

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Manning went to Denver to play for his mentor, not because of your franchise.

So?

Regardless of why he signed...the bottom line is he signed with us...not you. And when you have a great QB, your chances of winning alot of games meteorically increases, than if your Qb was say, I dunno....mediocre like Cassell is.

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Really? You do realize Josh wanted Matt Cassell, and was willing to give up Jay Cutler, don't you?

Your genius Pioli could have swung a deal to land Cutler couldn't he albeit going against conventional wisdom that one never trades within their own division?

Not to mention Kurt Warner was available....he'd have been closer to his old home St. Louis...

He also could have made a deal with the Lions, and traded up to get Stafford...or draft Sanchez with the 3rd overall pick in '09

he could have used the 26th overall pick this past season and selected Andy Dalton, correct?

All of those mentioned have outperformed Matt Cassell....

1. You're high if you think Bowlen was going to trade Cutler to KC and see him twice a year.
2. Detroit wasn't giving up Stafford. It was very obvious they wanted and needed him.
3. Sanchez would have been an epic failure with KC in 2009. He's a bad QB who's about to get replaced by Tebow. Taking him at 3 would have been stupid.
4. Andy Dalton is a wait and see. Having a great surrounding cast last year helped him out big time, just like it helped out Cassel in 2010. Dalton has not outperformed Cassel by any measure.

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

You think this team is winning 12 games next year? You don't have one of the easier schedules in the league this year. You have the hardest.

Yeah, we got one of the toughest schedules...but we've also got one of the best QB's now...

I think we can win between 10-12 games this season, and that's taking in to account our tough schedule

Looking at it, we play your sad sack of a team, the Chargers, and Raiduhs twice which puts us at 4-2 worst case scenario...

perhaps we lose to the Patriots, and split with the Ravens, Saints, Texans, Steelers...that puts us at 6-5, worst case....

I doubt very seriously that we lose to the Bucs, Browns, Bengals, Panthers, or the Falcons (yeah they went 10-6, but 4 of their wins came against rookie QB's)...

that puts us at 11-5...which in my opinion means we'll end up between 10-12 wins.

errand · 07-08-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

1. You're high if you think Bowlen was going to trade Cutler to KC and see him twice a year.
2. Detroit wasn't giving up Stafford. It was very obvious they wanted and needed him.
3. Sanchez would have been an epic failure with KC in 2009. He's a bad QB who's about to get replaced by Tebow. Taking him at 3 would have been stupid.
4. Andy Dalton is a wait and see. Having a great surrounding cast last year helped him out big time, just like it helped out Cassel in 2010. Dalton has not outperformed Cassel by any measure.

Whether or not they'd have worked wasn't the point...you asked when could your boy Pioli have acquired a better Qb than Cassell....

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Whether or not they'd have worked wasn't the point...you asked when could your boy Pioli have acquired a better Qb than Cassell....

I also used the word "realistic".

DBroncos4life · 07-08-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

No, we suck. Just less than you do.

Dont believe me?

SCOREBOARD

Whose season ended last?

KCStud · 07-08-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Yeah, we got one of the toughest schedules...but we've also got one of the best QB's now...

I think we can win between 10-12 games this season, and that's taking in to account our tough schedule

Looking at it, we play your sad sack of a team, the Chargers, and Raiduhs twice which puts us at 4-2 worst case scenario...

perhaps we lose to the Patriots, and split with the Ravens, Saints, Texans, Steelers...that puts us at 6-5, worst case....

I doubt very seriously that we lose to the Bucs, Browns, Bengals, Panthers, or the Falcons (yeah they went 10-6, but 4 of their wins came against rookie QB's)...

that puts us at 11-5...which in my opinion means we'll end up between 10-12 wins.

And yet we will still split the series.

And you are underestimating the Bengals, Panthers, and Falcons.

broncocalijohn · 07-08-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

No, we suck. Just less than you do.

Dont believe me?

SCOREBOARD

Wow, so the rankings of a team is based on just head to head matchups. Didnt know that. Infact, maybe the SB trophy should be split up from all the teams that beat the SB champs! That way, we can go back the last 40 years and give the Chiefs a sliver so they feel like a winner!
So, did the Colts suck less than the Packers in 1997 when the 0-12 Colts beat the future SB Champs? Your logic tells me the Colts less than that year's Super Bowl Champs!

Chiefs logic, don't try this in public!

Nice to see 2 morons trying to defend their franchise.

broncocalijohn · 07-08-2012, 01:18 PM

Here are some QBs Chiefs could have landed:
Michael Vick

Peyton Manning (IND) -
Matt Flynn (GB) -
Kyle Orton (DEN) Did get him and then let him go.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Not sure if improvement
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - Good for a year or two when available

Stanzi is your only QB draft pick in the last few years. I would be gun shy too if the last high pick was Croyle!

We got Peyton because the Front Office sold him enough to land him. He wanted to go to a franchise he thought had a chance. He obviously didn't think KC was in the same ballpark. Why? Just look at the name of this thread.

07-08-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Please tell me of any realistic chance Pioli has had to get a good QB since coming to KC in 2009.

Looking at what he gave up for and what he paid Cassel, he clearly thought he was getting a good QB back in 2009. Oops...

07-08-2012, 01:18 PM	#624
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings I said Do It! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 27,831 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Here are some QBs Chiefs could have landed: Michael Vick Peyton Manning (IND) - Matt Flynn (GB) - Kyle Orton (DEN) Did get him and then let him go. Jason Campbell (OAK) - Not sure if improvement Donovan McNabb (MIN) - Good for a year or two when available Stanzi is your only QB draft pick in the last few years. I would be gun shy too if the last high pick was Croyle! We got Peyton because the Front Office sold him enough to land him. He wanted to go to a franchise he thought had a chance. He obviously didn't think KC was in the same ballpark. Why? Just look at the name of this thread. Last edited by broncocalijohn; 07-08-2012 at 01:25 PM..

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07-08-2012, 12:21 PM	#613
KCStud Ring of Famer AmeriStanzi! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,477 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Still waiting for the question to be answered. Who should Pioli of drafted? Sanchez? Puke. Tannehill? Puke.