The oakland raiders suck!

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

So the game is played to obtain records and not for victories. Glynn Milburn made into Canton for a single game record that his team also lost. The only difference is you don't see Bronco fans thumping their chests about it.

The game is played to win, and blaming a loss on a guy that had 7 sacks is laughable. Clearly you don't understand the concept of "team".
You win as a team and lose as a team.

Love how you don't put any blame on the DB's for giving up the 35 yard TD catch when the WR was double-teamed, or how you don't give any blame to the offense for a terrible performance.

Nope. It's all DT's fault they lost. Clown

[Bronco Rob]

Originally Posted by KCStud

. Nope. It's all DT's fault they lost. Clown

Thank you! Very proud of ya! By the time we are through you might just understand what a fraud dt was!

Instead of making the correct read he went after as always cared only about one thing...himself....

Now on to the next chapter...Why didn't he start in the 1993 AFC Championship game?

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Thank you! Very proud of ya! By the time we are through you might just understand what a fraud dt was!

Instead of making the correct read he went after as always cared only about one thing...himself....

Now on to the next chapter...Why didn't he start in the 1993 AFC Championship game?

While I do not remember loads of DT's games and know that he was not a great human being.. I do know that the son of a gun caused us loads of fits..

I do remember one game that Sharpe got inside his skull so bad the coach had to set him on the Bench because of all the penalties called on him..

I'd take DT any day over any of our LB's save Miller..

But keep up the debate I'd love to see the answers to the questions you posed.. I doubt they will be answered..

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Thank you! Very proud of ya! By the time we are through you might just understand what a fraud dt was!

Instead of making the correct read he went after as always cared only about one thing...himself....

Now on to the next chapter...Why didn't he start in the 1993 AFC Championship game?

Cared about only himself huh?

How about this? http://thirdandlong.org/

Sure looks like he cared about only himself huh?
Only you would say a HOF is a fraud. Clown.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Thank you! Very proud of ya! By the time we are through you might just understand what a fraud dt was!

Instead of making the correct read he went after as always cared only about one thing...himself....

Now on to the next chapter...Why didn't he start in the 1993 AFC Championship game?

That fraud (lol) is Millers favorite player. Funny how over the top you're willing to go to make Von Miller look like a fool. To insult DT fans is to insult Miller. Besides, I'd take Millers idea of what it takes to play LBer before I would yours. Not because you look foolish here, but because he has had success at it while you have not. You know....the Pro Football Hall of Fame and such.

Unless you're going to surprize the hell out of me and prove you were once a pro football player. No, if I had to guess I would guess you were a boxer. That would explain several of these posts.

[DENVERDUI55]

DT was a great player no denying that.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Cared about only himself huh?

How about this? http://thirdandlong.org/

Sure looks like he cared about only himself huh?
Only you would say a HOF is a fraud. Clown.

NOt sure that being an off the field humanitarian is something the HOF makes a requirement..

Pretty sure that they look at the stats of the man as pretty much their main criteria..


Besides DT did pad his stats a lot also..

I disliked the guy because he caused us fits, and as I said before would have loved to have him playing in DEN instead..

But he was not a great human being as you suggest.. Had negatives off the field and maybe even in the locker room. I can't speak to that, but generally if you're a prick outside work some of it rubs off at work and vice versa,,

[Shananahan]

How does a linebacker pad his stats?

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

That fraud (lol) is Millers favorite player. Funny how over the top you're willing to go to make Von Miller look like a fool. To insult DT fans is to insult Miller. Besides, I'd take Millers idea of what it takes to play LBer before I would yours. Not because you look foolish here, but because he has had success at it while you have not. You know....the Pro Football Hall of Fame and such.

Unless you're going to surprize the hell out of me and prove you were once a pro football player. No, if I had to guess I would guess you were a boxer. That would explain several of these posts.

Players look at the stats and the film of what others do. In Millers case I suspect that is the reason he wanted to be like him.. I also suspect that someone told him at one time or another he "played like DT".. therefore put in film study to further emulate him..

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by Shananahan

How does a linebacker pad his stats?

By smashing quarterbacks. A lot-lot.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by lonestar

NOt sure that being an off the field humanitarian is something the HOF makes a requirement..

Pretty sure that they look at the stats of the man as pretty much their main criteria..


Besides DT did pad his stats a lot also..

I disliked the guy because he caused us fits, and as I said before would have loved to have him playing in DEN instead..

But he was not a great human being as you suggest.. Had negatives off the field and maybe even in the locker room. I can't speak to that, but generally if you're a prick outside work some of it rubs off at work and vice versa,,

Its not that he was a prick. He was a nice often not serioius enough. He was to much a player and had kids out of marriage he didnt raise. That was his biggest fault. He didnt pad stats. He wasnt a prick to anyone and its easy to see after you stated you didnt know much about him that now you're just making it up as you go. BR is making you look stupid. You should not participate in conversations you know nothing about.

He played a hybrid position that was referred to in KCs scheme as the Falcon position. He played where he was asked and what he was asked. He was not a coverage LBer. He was a rush LBer. Usually off the left side of the offense. He was so prolific at it that no matter the gameplan the dude got his.

Broncos fans biggest crack on him was his skills as a father. Not a prick.

You folks have never had a LBer that could hold his jock. Ever. Get over it

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Players look at the stats and the film of what others do. In Millers case I suspect that is the reason he wanted to be like him.. I also suspect that someone told him at one time or another he "played like DT".. therefore put in film study to further emulate him..

More making it up as you go?

Its making you look foolish.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by Shananahan

How does a linebacker pad his stats?

He cant. Its a ridiculous statement made without the benefit of thinking. No logic what so ever. Very foolish.

[MagicHef]

I would be ecstatic if Miller turned out to be the passrusher that DT was.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Its not that he was a prick. He was a nice often not serioius enough. He was to much a player and had kids out of marriage he didnt raise. That was his biggest fault. He didnt pad stats. He wasnt a prick to anyone and its easy to see after you stated you didnt know much about him that now you're just making it up as you go. BR is making you look stupid. You should not participate in conversations you know nothing about.

He played a hybrid position that was referred to in KCs scheme as the Falcon position. He played where he was asked and what he was asked. He was not a coverage LBer. He was a rush LBer. Usually off the left side of the offense. He was so prolific at it that no matter the gameplan the dude got his.

Broncos fans biggest crack on him was his skills as a father. Not a prick.

You folks have never had a LBer that could hold his jock. Ever. Get over it

As I said I would have loved To have his skills on the field.
I think Randy G would have easily held his jock. In fact it could be said just maybe DT would have had a tough time holding RGs jock. He averaged a bit over 200 tackles a year. Had 20 sacks and 20 picks in his ten year career.
He said when he was on his rookie year he would only play ten years and unlike most athletes kept his word.

It is one of the biggest travesties of all time he is not a HOFer.

Like I said I don't know DT other than when he played DEN or any other televised KC game.
Never have said I was an expert on him but I do know football. I'll also bet the Miller did not cone up with the DT comparison with out someone else brining it to his attention.
Since he grew up in Dallas Th odds of him seeing DT live was slim and none. Considering DTs career was over about the time miller may have played PEE WEE I'm Pretty sure someone did indeed turned him on to DT. Opposed to figuring it out himself.

Your correct most Bronco fans hated him and having a gaggle of kids that he did not care for, did him no favors.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I would be ecstatic if Miller turned out to be the passrusher that DT was.

DT averaged about 12 a game miller had 11 in his rookie year playing the last 4 games with one hand..

in their first year their tackles were virtually the same but Von had 4.5 most sacks that DT did..

Unless Miller gets hurt I think it is a lock..

[CEH]

DT was a great football player. Any GM today would want DT on the field. He has to be accounted for with a TE or back which changes the odds into the defense's favor. Von Miller is about to explode into a top 20 player in the NFL a perennial Pro Bowler who teams have to account for on every play. With Doom on the other side could be a great season for Denver on D

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by lonestar

DT averaged about 12 a game miller had 11 in his rookie year playing the last 4 games with one hand..

in their first year their tackles were virtually the same but Von had 4.5 most sacks that DT did..

Unless Miller gets hurt I think it is a lock..

Yes but DT had 20 sacks in his 2nd season, his best ever, so Von is gonna have to get better in that regard.

Miller will likely be a better in other areas, but DT is arguably the best pass rushing LB of all time. Forced fumbles need to become accounted for too. DT averaged 4 a year.

To suggest that Von is already the best OLB in the league is dumb. As of right now, Von couldn't hold Demarcus Ware's jock.

Ware is the best OLB I've seen since DT. He already has 100 sacks at the age of 30 and will likely be in the top 10 for all time sacks by the time he's 32.
He plays the run really well and is just a monster.

[rugbythug]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Yes but DT had 20 sacks in his 2nd season, his best ever, so Von is gonna have to get better in that regard.

Miller will likely be a better in other areas, but DT is arguably the best pass rushing LB of all time. Forced fumbles need to become accounted for too. DT averaged 4 a year.

To suggest that Von is already the best OLB in the league is dumb. As of right now, Von couldn't hold Demarcus Ware's jock.

Ware is the best OLB I've seen since DT. He already has 100 sacks at the age of 30 and will likely be in the top 10 for all time sacks by the time he's 32.
He plays the run really well and is just a monster.

DT was good. But he was not LT.
Von is the Best 4-3 OLB in the NFL. All Pro
Ware is a HOF player

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Yes but DT had 20 sacks in his 2nd season, his best ever, so Von is gonna have to get better in that regard.

Miller will likely be a better in other areas, but DT is arguably the best pass rushing LB of all time. Forced fumbles need to become accounted for too. DT averaged 4 a year.

To suggest that Von is already the best OLB in the league is dumb. As of right now, Von couldn't hold Demarcus Ware's jock.

Ware is the best OLB I've seen since DT. He already has 100 sacks at the age of 30 and will likely be in the top 10 for all time sacks by the time he's 32.
He plays the run really well and is just a monster.

here we go again with man love from KC..

yet he only averaged 10.8 for the next 5 years..

lets not let the manlove get in the way of facts..

there is an old adage "figures never lie, but liars always figure"..

Go figure..

as for DT is arguably the best pass rushing LB of all time

NOT

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...awrence-taylor

read and weep..

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

DT was good. But he was not LT.
Von is the Best 4-3 OLB in the NFL. All Pro
Ware is a HOF player

Beat me to it while I was checking the stats,,'

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...awrence-taylor

132.5 in his career..

now I'm not sure if DT could hold LT's jock..

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Beat me to it while I was checking the stats,,'

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...awrence-taylor

132.5 in his career..

now I'm not sure if DT could hold LT's jock..

LT played 2 more seasons than DT did. Without those 2 years, DT has more sacks than him.
If DT hadn't died such a tragic young death, he would have easily passed LT in the next year or two in all time sacks.

Another big factor that should play in is that LT didn't have a forced fumble until his last season (3 total), while DT had 41 in his career.

[GreatBronco16]

DT had 126.5 sacks in 169 games played. .75 sacks per game. He also had 2 fewer seasons played. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...derrick-thomas
LT had 132.5 sacks in 184 games played. .72 sacks per game.


I say they can hold each others jocks.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by KCStud

LT played 2 more seasons than DT did. Without those 2 years, DT has more sacks than him.
If DT hadn't died such a tragic young death, he would have easily passed LT in the next year or two in all time sacks.

Another big factor that should play in is that LT didn't have a forced fumble until his last season (3 total), while DT had 41 in his career.

LT had more than three forced fumbles.

Taylor ended his career with 1,088 tackles, 132.5 sacks (not counting the 9.5 sacks he recorded as a rookie because sacks did not become an official statistic until 1982), nine interceptions, 134 return yards, two touchdowns, 33 forced fumbles, 11 fumble recoveries, and 34 fumble return yards.[27]

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

LT had more than three forced fumbles.

Danke.. that should do it..

always enjoy a pissing contest with man lovers..