New Dress Code Required At CC High Schools

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I haven't been to HS in many years (over 30) but if they would've tried this when I went we would've protested and boycotted school.
I hope their budget includes a large fund for attorneys fees.

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New CCISD dress code says goodbye to grung
and freedom of expression, according to CCISD students facing new dress code
By Ofelia Garcia Hunter Caller-Times
July 18, 2004

Matthew Walker, 15, likes to express himself with his lime-green hair, rock band T-shirt and black loop earring on his left earlobe.

His self-expression will have to change when school starts on Aug. 12. Matthew's hair will be its natural blond, and he'll wear polo shirts and khakis.

He's among more than 10,000 high school students in the Corpus Christi Independent School District who face a drastic dress code change in the fall. No more designer labels. No more grunge. No more short skirts and exposed midriffs. No more three-sizes-too-big pants hanging half a foot below the waistband of the underwear. Instead, there must be khaki pants or shorts, with the options of navy or black, and polos or T-shirts in school colors or white.

"We should be able to express ourselves and not look all the same," said Matthew, a sophomore at Carroll High School. "We're being treated like little kids again."

Indeed, most CCISD elementary and middle schools follow those guidelines.

According to some school uniforms studies, uniforms generally are not used in U.S. public schools. In the

1990s, there was a trend toward introducing uniforms in public schools, especially in low-income areas. This was at first an effort to counter gang clothing, but later the goal was to improve morale and discipline. The arguments are controversial among many parents, students and educators. The students most likely to wear a school uniform are either very poor or very rich, one study said.

Proponents of uniforms argue they reduce cliques or gangs, allow students to concentrate on schoolwork rather than socializing and foster a professional atmosphere resulting in better morale.

Some CCISD parents say the new dress code was needed because some students dressed inappropriately.

"I like it. Everybody will be treated equally, and it will prevent stereotyping," said Carmen Benavidez who has a daughter at Miller High School. "I have seen kids going to school in pajamas and some of the girls in big heels like they were going to a dance."

Among the rules in the new code:

n T-shirts or polo shirts in the school's color or white must be long enough to tuck in.

n Pants must be worn at the waist and cover undergarments.

n Shorts must reach the bend of the knee.

n Skirts must reach below the knee.

n Shoes must have a backing or strap, and belts must be worn through the belt loops.

http://www.caller.com/ccct/local_new...046212,00.html

[Rock Chalk]

good. maybe these dumbsh*ts will start to realize you cant get a job with green hair and pants hanging down to your knees.

[-Slap-]

Most students hate the idea of school uniforms initially, but grow to prefer them over an open dress code.

[Popps]

My principle made me turn my Dead Kennedys Frankenchrist shirt inside out one day.

[Sodak]

Originally Posted by Popps

My principle made me turn my Dead Kennedys Frankenchrist shirt inside out one day.

Niiiice! I just updated my old skool vinyl collection to CD. I bought all DK albums on CD. I was disappointed to find no H.R. Geiger's penis landscape poster tho. Damn the PMRC!!

Frankenchrist is by far the pinnacle of the DK collection.

[Moon§hiner]

In junior high back in the late 70's we had to have belts and shirts tucked in...my principal offered to pay for a haircut and I politely turned it down...heh....Alec is right though....kids need to realize that school isn't playtime and it's a preparation for the real world...if you can't learn to be professional therek does that mean you magically change on graduation day?.....btw, I still have long hair for a 46 year old but I keep it neat and it's not pony tail length....boss hasn't offered to buy me a haircut....yet

[Exile_In_SJ]

There's pros and cons to wearing uniforms. Something needs to be done with these kids. How can you show them education is important?

[Spider]

my kid comes home with Green Hair , Pants down to his Knees , and a Big earring in his ear , he wont have to worry about a drees code ........ I will put his ass out in the Hay fields bucking hay 12 hours a day ( I did it as a kid got 5 cents for every bail I bucked ) ...........

[Crushaholic]

I had a dress code during grade school and high school. It was OK, except for the fact that the girls had to wear these ugly green and black skirts. Only the best looking of the girls looked good in the skirts. It cut down on flirting quite a bit.

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

No more three-sizes-too-big pants hanging half a foot below the waistband of the underwear.

thank God.

that is far and away the worst and most annoying fashion trend in my lifetime.

jake

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

thank God.

that is far and away the worst and most annoying fashion trend in my lifetime.

jake

Yep, it's ridiculous! Making kids were uniforms in public funded institutions won't fly in a court of law though. There's nothing wrong with wearing a t-shirt, button or pullover shirt with a decent pair of Levis or other jeans or shorts of the color of your own choosing.

[kappys]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Yep, it's ridiculous! Making kids were uniforms in public funded institutions won't fly in a court of law though. There's nothing wrong with wearing a t-shirt, button or pullover shirt with a decent pair of Levis or other jeans or shorts of the color of your own choosing.

There are a number of public schools in Ohio that have dress codes. Its perfectly legal over here. I would be rather surprised to see it get overturned in CO.

[RhymesayersDU]

My take on the situation:

Now people are right, in the real world the green hair and such wouldn't fly. However, At school, you should be able to wear what you want..

Actually, here's a story from the other day... My dad owns 3 restaurants., one of which I bust my ass at daily. This kid comes in with a backwards hat, west coast choppers t-shirt, and pants with one leg rolled up.

All I could do was laugh, and to be honest I wanted to yell at him for expecting a job from us. Had my dad been there that day, he probably wouldn't have even given him an app. But my manager let him fill one out anyways.

The point is, my parents taught me how to make good impressions, how to dress for interviews, etc, when I was 15 trying to get my first summer job. Making that kid wear a uniform at school won't change what he does on his free time. Parents need to teach their kids what is apppropriate for the work place, and how to get a job, etc.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

My take on the situation:

Now people are right, in the real world the green hair and such wouldn't fly. However, At school, you should be able to wear what you want..

Not in public school. Not on tax payers money. It is a distraction to education which is the goal. Now if you want to waste your money at college doing that nonsense, fine, you are an adult but HSchoolers are just kids.

Actually, here's a story from the other day... My dad owns 3 restaurants., one of which I bust my ass at daily. This kid comes in with a backwards hat, west coast choppers t-shirt, and pants with one leg rolled up.

All I could do was laugh, and to be honest I wanted to yell at him for expecting a job from us. Had my dad been there that day, he probably wouldn't have even given him an app. But my manager let him fill one out anyways.

It is against the law to refuse to give anyone an application for employment. Even if you are in a hiring freeze at the moment, or even the the applicant is undesireable, you still have to give the person an application. (At least in Texas, that might not be nationwide though)

The point is, my parents taught me how to make good impressions, how to dress for interviews, etc, when I was 15 trying to get my first summer job. Making that kid wear a uniform at school won't change what he does on his free time. Parents need to teach their kids what is apppropriate for the work place, and how to get a job, etc.

Yes yes, but any clown dressed nicely with green hair and piercings as far as the eye can see is not getting a job. While I do not mind piercings or tattoos, if I am running a business - particularly those that deal with the public in some manner - I do not want to see them.

No one is saying you cant address your individuality, indeed it is impossible to stop (ask the communists), however there needs to be a structured limit to it in public schools due to the goal of education and not socialization. Yes, socialization skills are practiced at public schools, but it is not tantamount to education.

JMO.

[Hogan11]

I've been out of high school for 21 years and still the notion of a dress code makes my skin crawl.....seeing students in school uniforms just reminds me of the Hitler Youth or something....it's just not right to suppress a kids self-expression like that IMO.

[Exile_In_SJ]

I I think kids should worry less about self expression and actually spend time in getting an education.

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Yes yes, but any clown dressed nicely with green hair and piercings as far as the eye can see is not getting a job. While I do not mind piercings or tattoos, if I am running a business - particularly those that deal with the public in some manner - I do not want to see them.

You're preaching to the choir here, I agree with you. My point is, the kid's parents should point him in the right direction on how to get ahead, dress for success, how to get a job, etc. The school forcing him to change his clothes isn't going to help.

I agree with you that these kids with green hair, pants hanging off their asses, etc could never get a job... But I think it's the parents jobs to teach them how to dress in the appropriate manner. Just because the schools make them wear the clothes doesn't mean the kids will apply that to the other aspects of their lives.

You said:

good. maybe these dumbsh*ts will start to realize you cant get a job with green hair and pants hanging down to your knees.

This is where I disagree with you. While you're correct idealy, I don't think in reality the kids will take this and say "You know, this is the right way to dress." It should teach them a valuable lesson, but I don't think it will.

[Hogan11]

Originally Posted by Exile_In_SJ

I I think kids should worry less about self expression and actually spend time in getting an education.

Why am I not surprised that you'd support this conformity?

[broncogary]

While I'm against forced dress codes, the problem in Corpus Christi is gangs, so to protect the majority of students who are gangbangers, I don't know that it's necessarily bad. At some point in life, the decisions you make start to affect your life. I don't know that it's necessarily bad that it starts to happen in your high school years.

[Rascal]

There was this girl in high school who would wear pants with holes in selected locations. The principal told her to change and she said she didn't have any other clothes. The principal said, well you can't wear that. She said okay and just took off everything, yes everything, right there. She had a nice rack and firm ass.

[orangeatheist]

Originally Posted by Hogan11

I've been out of high school for 21 years and still the notion of a dress code makes my skin crawl.....seeing students in school uniforms just reminds me of the Hitler Youth or something....it's just not right to suppress a kids self-expression like that IMO.

No offense, Hogan, but these kinds of responses speak of a person who has little knowledge of the world outside the U.S. In Japan, school uniforms are the norm. I've been there many times and I don't see any damage to a kid's self-expression. And it CERTAINLY is not indicative of a "Hitler Youth" mentality! The boys look very well presented and there's none of that Nike-envy you see here. The girls are cute as can be. I know this isn't just the uniforms but also the way they are brought up, but the uniforms reflect the respectful and studious attitudes of the Japanese people as a whole. Americans could learn a lot from them.

I'd give anything for uniforms to be implimented in Highlands Ranch before my kids hit school.

[TheDave]

You know, i grew up going to catholic school, so of course uniforms were the norm. Because of this i grew up hating uniforms, a hate that has lasted through the years.... But recently i've become a parent (good lord how that changes $hit). Now looking at it from another point of view i think it is a good idea. Self expression through fashion has become ridiculous. Has any one seen some of the slogans imprinted on littl girls t-shirts lately. A 12 year old girl with a shirt that boast "Late night Pipe cleaning service" is getting a little to disturbing for this 34 year old. With more and more parents seemingly less involved in their childs life, maybe it is time that the schools need to lay down the law and bring a little more sanity / less distraction into the class room.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TheDave

You know, i grew up going to catholic school, so of course uniforms were the norm. Because of this i grew up hating uniforms, a hate that has lasted through the years.... But recently i've become a parent (god lord how that changes $hit). Now looking at it from another point of view i think it is a good idea. Self expression through fashion has become ridiculous. Has any one seen some of the slogans imprinted on littl girls t-shirts lately. A 12 year old girl with a shirt that boast "Late night Pipe cleaning service" is getting a little to disturbing for this 34 year old. With more and more parents seemingly less involved in their childs life, maybe it is time that the schools need to lay down the law and bring a little more sanity / less distraction into the class room.

........ Rep .and I agree

[Hogan11]

Originally Posted by orangeatheist

No offense, Hogan, but these kinds of responses speak of a person who has little knowledge of the world outside the U.S..

Well, seeing as I've only been to Canada outside the US, I have little to go on...but hey, the US spends a great deal of time trying to seperate itself from the rest of the world in many areas, why should this be any different?

In Japan, school uniforms are the norm. I've been there many times and I don't see any damage to a kid's self-expression. And it CERTAINLY is not indicative of a "Hitler Youth" mentality! The boys look very well presented and there's none of that Nike-envy you see here. The girls are cute as can be. I know this isn't just the uniforms but also the way they are brought up, but the uniforms reflect the respectful and studious attitudes of the Japanese people as a whole. Americans could learn a lot from them.

I'd give anything for uniforms to be implimented in Highlands Ranch before my kids hit school.

To be honest, I have very little use for the nations of the Pacific rim...outside of some Japanese and (very little) Chinese food,
I'm not into the whole Eastern thing at all. The uniform thing doesn't surprise me with the Japanese, afterall this is the same culture that places the Coporation above all else.
..and I said that seeing a bunch of kids in school uniforms reminded me of old footage of the Hitler Youth, sorry but that's what comes to mind when I see them...school uniforms are nothing more than enforced conformity, plain and simple...and that is never good IMO.

[football idiot]

Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, mainly because failing to live up to the expectations of normal society is an embarassment to your entire family heritage. Being different, having indepent spirit, or having freedom of expression is not an option. I hardly think America should follow their lead, even if they do better on standardized Math or Geography tests. There are more important things than book smarts and obedience training, the latter being the focus of most public education.