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Old 04-01-2013, 02:40 PM   #976
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I liked when Sansa saw him "but didn't 'see' him" and how it pissed off Joffrey. It's hard to convey what was going there in the show. When you read it makes Sansa less weak.
Martin has a knack for writing good female characters. Sansa, Dany and Arya have perhaps the most interesting character arcs in the entire series. Some quality male character arcs too, but not on par IMHO.
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:54 PM   #977
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Martin has a knack for writing good female characters. Sansa, Dany and Arya have perhaps the most interesting character arcs in the entire series. Some quality male character arcs too, but not on par IMHO.
Oh come on. Tyrion steals the show! But I agree. Arya is one of my favorites. And he picks good female "villains" too.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:00 PM   #978
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Cracks me up when people who say they series isn't very good have watched all the episodes. I never watch a show twice unless I really like it. Game of Thrones is awesome and one of the best produced shows on TV.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:22 PM   #979
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they could torture, tear body parts off of him one by one, draw and quarter him, tar and feather him, burn him alive and it still wouldn't be enough to punish that psychotic little bastard Joff.

and that doesn't even begin to reach the depths of how bent his mother is.
that b**** is about as evil as you can be without being the devil.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:30 PM   #980
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Martin has a knack for writing good female characters. Sansa, Dany and Arya have perhaps the most interesting character arcs in the entire series. Some quality male character arcs too, but not on par IMHO.
I completely disagree with that. I personally think Jamie Lannister has one of the best character arcs in the entire book when you consider his past, present, and what may be his future. It's especially wild to me how Martin manages to take him from a hated character and turn him into one that the reader can be sympathetic towards.

That said, I completely agree that Martin does a great job of writing female characters.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:52 PM   #981
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they could torture, tear body parts off of him one by one, draw and quarter him, tar and feather him, burn him alive and it still wouldn't be enough to punish that psychotic little bastard Joff.

and that doesn't even begin to reach the depths of how bent his mother is.
that b**** is about as evil as you can be without being the devil.


I have my ex wife in my phone as queen cersei
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:30 PM   #982
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Are you the same one who thought the nudity, language and violence was excessive and wanted to watch it with the family?

Cant please everyone i guess.
Nope, that wasn't me. I could care less about the language and nudity is always cool in my book. There's enough movies out there made for kids, it's not like they're hurting for good material. If they make some shows for adults and want to show some boobies, I'm down with that.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:21 PM   #983
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Martin has a knack for writing good female characters. Sansa, Dany and Arya have perhaps the most interesting character arcs in the entire series. Some quality male character arcs too, but not on par IMHO.
Sansa is by far the most boring character so far to me, Arya is awesome though.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #984
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:47 AM   #985
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I completely disagree with that. I personally think Jamie Lannister has one of the best character arcs in the entire book when you consider his past, present, and what may be his future. It's especially wild to me how Martin manages to take him from a hated character and turn him into one that the reader can be sympathetic towards.

That said, I completely agree that Martin does a great job of writing female characters.
This. I remember reading the series and being utterly amazed by the fact that I was genuinely rooting for Jaime by the end of the third book. And its not a cheep redemption either. He really does earn every drop of sympathy from the reader throughout his arc. Considering the fact that our introduction to him is throwing a child out a window after being caught banging his sister.....well, that is just an impressive turn around.

I know some have complained about Sansa being boring, and in the beginning she kind of is. However, he story line starts to finally gain some steam around the 3rd book. Her problem is that for the first part of the series, she really isn't a very proactive character. She is a character that things happen to, and that does become tedious after a while. She will eventually take more initiative and thus be more interesting. For now, her scenes are just a long setup.
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Jaime would be the classic hero if it wasn't for his relationship with Cercei. Think about it. He's a dashing warrior that helped win the throne and bring peace to the land. Then a the man who took the throne was a drunk who cheated on Jaime's sister and bankrupted the country. If the incident with Bran hadn't happened, he would be a hero in the story.

I also like how his dynamic changes when he learns about honor, justice and suffers his "injury" and has to reinvent himself. He's a very interesting character. Tyrion is still my favorite, though.
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Jack Gleeson is doing such a great job that he's going to get typecast for the rest of his life.

If some crazed fan doesn't take matters into their own hands. I hope this kid has a good set of bodyguards.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:35 AM   #988
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Jack Gleeson is doing such a great job that he's going to get typecast for the rest of his life.

If some crazed fan doesn't take matters into their own hands. I hope this kid has a good set of bodyguards.
Gleeson is done with acting after Game of Thrones. He has no interest in it as a profession once he graduates school. He's apparently insanely smart and goes to a top college.

Shame IMO, he's a gifted actor.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:58 AM   #989
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Sansa is by far the most boring character so far to me, Arya is awesome though.
Completely agree. When I'd turn a page and see SANSA, I'd groan. I particuraly liked Arya, Brienne, Cersei (of course I hate her) and Cat. Hope we hear more about Uncat.

Arya's story arc was great, but is fading on me a little. How much time has passed between AGOT and ADWD? I tend to think 1-2 years, so I imagine her as a small 12-13 year old girl, which is making the assassin angle a little weird to envision.

Anybody know the one word Brienne shouts at the close of AFFC? Or is it supposed to be open to speculation?
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Jack Gleeson is doing such a great job that he's going to get typecast for the rest of his life.

If some crazed fan doesn't take matters into their own hands. I hope this kid has a good set of bodyguards.
I would probably want to punch him in the face if I saw him in person
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:11 AM   #991
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I would probably want to punch him in the face if I saw him in person


Just a little fuel for the fire
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He'll change his mind when the river of p***Y dries up.
Are we still talking about the Red Viper in this post?
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:21 AM   #993
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Are we still talking about the Red Viper in this post?
SPOILER: ( Trying to remember...is the Red Viper the badass from Dorne that mortally wounded the Mountain in that epic battle? And I haven't read the books in a while, so can't remember which one it was from, but i THOUGHT it was right around the same time as Joffrey getting murdered...so is there a possibility all of that happens this season? )
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #994
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Correct Boobs. He's also the guy that likes to take it up the pooper while he's banging various chicks.

I think all of those events should occur this season.
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SPOILER: ( Trying to remember...is the Red Viper the badass from Dorne that mortally wounded the Mountain in that epic battle? And I haven't read the books in a while, so can't remember which one it was from, but i THOUGHT it was right around the same time as Joffrey getting murdered...so is there a possibility all of that happens this season? )
Yes. He also likes to dip his pen in any inkwell that is available.
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I liked Sansa in the book more than I do on the show. I can't stand her on the show maybe it's the actress I don't know.
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I liked Sansa in the book more than I do on the show. I can't stand her on the show maybe it's the actress I don't know.
The only thing interesting about her is when she makes her little "I'm a princess and I'm better than you" snooty-snoot comments to her little staff underlings. Those little jabs make me laugh. Other than that, yeah, she's boring as hell.

She reminds me of my cousin. In fact, if you were to take my cousin out of the trailerpark, and throw a pile of money at her, she'd be a fat Sansa.

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Jaime would be the classic hero if it wasn't for his relationship with Cercei. Think about it. He's a dashing warrior that helped win the throne and bring peace to the land. Then a the man who took the throne was a drunk who cheated on Jaime's sister and bankrupted the country. If the incident with Bran hadn't happened, he would be a hero in the story.

I also like how his dynamic changes when he learns about honor, justice and suffers his "injury" and has to reinvent himself. He's a very interesting character. Tyrion is still my favorite, though.
Claiming a favorite character is risky in this series.
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Great series. Hope Martin doesnt kick it any time soon because Id like to read quite a few more of these books.
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Claiming a favorite character is risky in this series.
They're all dead meat. Martin immunized me to caring too deeply about any of his characters because he kills them all.
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