Your 2011-2012 General NBA Thread

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

He's a freak. You cannot stop KD. You can only hope to contain him.

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

I'd say so. The Thunder can turn it on big time when they need to. It really sucked with the Lakers would hold the lead until the closing minutes of the game and then the Thunder would just drop a bomb on them. Like they turned into superheroes or something.

That is rare for a young team to do too

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Maven would be blowin up this thread if Miami won. What a cement head

[Dutch]

Well, took the first half for the Thunder to knock the rust off....but they did. Nice defensive adjustment by the Thunder at the half. You can't understate the defensive contributions of Sefolosha and Collison tonight. Once the heat cooled off on the outside jumpshots in the second half, it was just a matter of time.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

The true MVP took over the game. Almost as predictable as the decisionmaker's inevitable fade to impotency when it mattered most. BTW Sefolosha was incredible... as usual.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

Durant>LeBron.

Durant>>>>>>Lebron

[SoCalBronco]

Looks like Maven is "working" tonight...

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Looks like Maven is "working" tonight...

She's gonna be working for the next week too.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I dunno about Durant being better than LeBron, but that is one tough team, and he's one hell of a scorer...best in the league. Sometimes watching Miami play makes me wonder how they even got this far. Their offensive sets are ugly, their ball movement isn't great, and no one complements each other well. LeBron and Wade are really good so I guess thats good enough to get them this far, but the Thunder are a better basketball team. Lookin forward to the rest of this series.

Also, the immediate reaction, as always, is...the heat lose, James sucks. He (and maybe Battier and Chalmers..but lets get real) was the only guy on the heat who showed up. Wade and Bosh stunk tonight.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

After doing a whole lot of nothing for the first 9 minutes of the period, LeBron comes alive. He should have been doing this like 5 minutes ago. Again, he goes long stretches of being a non-factor when it really matters.

Part of this is because Wade seems to take more control during these times. He really shouldn't, but i have a feeling thats kinda what they have decided on to appease each other.

They shouldnt be playing together.

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Part of this is because Wade seems to take more control during these times. He really shouldn't, but i have a feeling thats kinda what they have decided on to appease each other.

They shouldnt be playing together.

I agree, these shouldn't play together. There isn't much of a need to have both of them. Kind of like the Lakers. There really is no need to have both Gasol and Bynum, and when they won the two titles, they really didn't have both of them as a featured part of the offense. It was just Gasol.

[CBF1]

3 more to go and I will be happy.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Part of this is because Wade seems to take more control during these times. He really shouldn't, but i have a feeling thats kinda what they have decided on to appease each other.

They shouldnt be playing together.

I agree with you completely on this. Add to that the fact that Bosh is not a good fit as the third leg (he should be on a team where he is more of a top 2 guy). The athleticism of the Thunder is going to present a problem for the heat in this series. They had better athletes than Indiana and the Celtics, which allowed them to come back after getting down in both those series. That will not happen against the Thunder. The only thing that kept it close tonight was Westbrook not getting Durant the ball more often. Westbrook had 17 shots to Durant's 8 at one point when KD was calling for the ball. What? Why the hell are you not feeding the ball to the reigning scoring champion more often than throwing up your own trash? I'm sure Scott Brooks will address it before game 2. He coached a hell of a game tonight and the Thunder played a nice TEAM game to win it in the second half.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Maven would be blowin up this thread if Miami won. What a cement head

Would you expect any less? Seriously the Heat aren't that good of a team and Wade and Bron are awful together vs what there talent adds up to. I thought heat would make the run once the refs started blowing the whistle on the Wade out of control drives. That is the only time he is clutch is when refs give it to him. No Maven til friday at least.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Would you expect any less? Seriously the Heat aren't that good of a team and Wade and Bron are awful together vs what there talent adds up to. I thought heat would make the run once the refs started blowing the whistle on the Wade out of control drives. That is the only time he is clutch is when refs give it to him. No Maven til friday at least.

I dont know if they are "awful" together, they did make two straight finals. But they dont complement each other all that well.

[Doggcow]

Where's that tool Maven?

[hambone13]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I agree with you completely on this. Add to that the fact that Bosh is not a good fit as the third leg (he should be on a team where he is more of a top 2 guy). The athleticism of the Thunder is going to present a problem for the heat in this series. They had better athletes than Indiana and the Celtics, which allowed them to come back after getting down in both those series. That will not happen against the Thunder. The only thing that kept it close tonight was Westbrook not getting Durant the ball more often. Westbrook had 17 shots to Durant's 8 at one point when KD was calling for the ball. What? Why the hell are you not feeding the ball to the reigning scoring champion more often than throwing up your own trash? I'm sure Scott Brooks will address it before game 2. He coached a hell of a game tonight and the Thunder played a nice TEAM game to win it in the second half.

Outstanding observations. I couldn't agree more. Westbrook does have a tendency to be a ball hog. I mean, when you have those sorts of ball handling skills, involve your team more!

[KCStud]

Could KD be the next MJ icon?

If/when? OKC win this series, it could be the start to a real dynasty.

I just don't see any team in the West being able to keep up with this team. They're all too old.

[bfoflcommish]

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

Chalmers has hit more big shots than those other 3, he plays more under control than westbrook, he's quicker than Parker and more of an in your face defender than rondo. Chalmers is nothing to sneeze at at all, in fact I think if he wasnt on the team Heat would look much worse. he's like Harden is for the Thunder, not the best when you compare him to others of his position but when it comes down to it you'd rather have him than alot of others players

Originally Posted by TonyR

You must be a KU fan. Chalmers really isn't in the same league as the other 3 players.

Please tell me how i'm wrong again!! Chalmers is a very important piece of the Heat

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

I dunno about Durant being better than LeBron, but that is one tough team, and he's one hell of a scorer...best in the league. Sometimes watching Miami play makes me wonder how they even got this far.

The East is weak.

Chicago would have beaten Miami had Rose not gotten hurt.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

Chalmers has hit more big shots than those other 3, he plays more under control than westbrook, he's quicker than Parker and more of an in your face defender than rondo. Chalmers is nothing to sneeze at at all, in fact I think if he wasnt on the team Heat would look much worse. he's like Harden is for the Thunder, not the best when you compare him to others of his position but when it comes down to it you'd rather have him than alot of tohers players

Wow! Chalmers top 3 PG in the league then.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

I dunno about Durant being better than LeBron, but that is one tough team, and he's one hell of a scorer...best in the league. Sometimes watching Miami play makes me wonder how they even got this far. Their offensive sets are ugly, their ball movement isn't great, and no one complements each other well. LeBron and Wade are really good so I guess thats good enough to get them this far, but the Thunder are a better basketball team. Lookin forward to the rest of this series.

Also, the immediate reaction, as always, is...the heat lose, James sucks. He (and maybe Battier and Chalmers..but lets get real) was the only guy on the heat who showed up. Wade and Bosh stunk tonight.

^ All of this. The LeBron haters are hilarious. The fact that OKC defended LeBron better than the Heat defended Durant somehow doesn't get factored into the silly "Durant > LeBron" proclamations. Can't do it alone, folks. It's a team game. LeBron didn't get much help. If Wade's play doesn't improve the Heat have no chance in this series.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

Please tell me how i'm wrong again!! Chalmers is a very important piece of the Heat

How were you "right"? Did anybody say he wasn't "important"? I just said he really wasn't all that good. He's okay, nothing special. But I stand by my point that of the final 4 teams he's the 4th best PG.

[bfoflcommish]

Originally Posted by TonyR

How were you "right"? Did anybody say he wasn't "important"? I just said he really wasn't all that good. He's okay, nothing special. But I stand by my point that of the final 4 teams he's the 4th best PG.

you called him a scrub and not a role player at all

[bfoflcommish]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Yup. Chalmers, Miller, Haslem, Battier, and Anthony arent even a mediocre bunch, let alone a good one.

without chalmers and battier's game yesterday heat lose by 20+. as I said heat have role players that do more than needed, but its up to the superstars to take over for the 4th...and well..yeah