Official General FIFA Thread - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

SonOfLe-loLang · 06-11-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

I've been wondering where the futbol threads have been for the past couple of months with league finals happpening...glad to have a new one to post in!

Don't understand how someone said that the overall depth in Euros is better than World Cup, so I'm curious to hear your take on that. Regardless of that, I'm looking forward to some good footballing through June, before the letdown that is the u-23 Olympic product.

Just like there's no easy outs in the Euro tournament like there are in the World Cup.

Kid A · 06-11-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Just like there's no easy outs in the Euro tournament like there are in the World Cup.

Yeah. I guess "depth" wasn't technically the right word, but a much less diluted pool. Italy, Spain, Netherlands etc have to fight just to advance from their group play, whereas in the WC they practically stroll into the second elimination round most times.

As this article points out, "a host nation, Italy, Germany, Brazil or another South American outfit have won every WC except the most recent" whereas "in the 13 tournaments since its inception in 1956, nine different teams have hoisted the Euro trophy." Germany is the only outlier to this parity, having won three times. The bloodbath has occasionally allowed teams like Greece or Denmark (very very solid teams in global scheme, but underdogs in this setting) to win it all, something we've never seen in the WC.

Swedish Extrovert · 06-11-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid A

Yeah. I guess "depth" wasn't technically the right word, but a much less diluted pool. Italy, Spain, Netherlands etc have to fight just to advance from their group play, whereas in the WC they practically stroll into the second elimination round most times.

As this article points out, "a host nation, Italy, Germany, Brazil or another South American outfit have won every WC except the most recent" whereas "in the 13 tournaments since its inception in 1956, nine different teams have hoisted the Euro trophy." Germany is the only outlier to this parity, having won three times. The bloodbath has occasionally allowed teams like Greece or Denmark (very very solid teams in global scheme, but underdogs in this setting) to win it all, something we've never seen in the WC.

This....

Although, too bad Messi is from Argentina. Best footballer alive, IMO.

gyldenlove · 06-11-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid A

Yeah. I guess "depth" wasn't technically the right word, but a much less diluted pool. Italy, Spain, Netherlands etc have to fight just to advance from their group play, whereas in the WC they practically stroll into the second elimination round most times.

As this article points out, "a host nation, Italy, Germany, Brazil or another South American outfit have won every WC except the most recent" whereas "in the 13 tournaments since its inception in 1956, nine different teams have hoisted the Euro trophy." Germany is the only outlier to this parity, having won three times. The bloodbath has occasionally allowed teams like Greece or Denmark (very very solid teams in global scheme, but underdogs in this setting) to win it all, something we've never seen in the WC.

Over the last 3 FIFA tournaments, 6 (2010), 8 (2006), 6 (2002) 20 teams have finished the group stage with 0 and 1 total points, the breakdown of those teams: 6 African teams, 4 European teams, 6 Asian teams and 4 North and Central American teams.

Asia sends 4 teams to each tournament, that means 50% of all Asian teams have earned 0 or 1 point.

Africa sends 5 to each tournament, more than 33% of all African teams earned 0 or 1 point.

Concacaf sends 3, that means abbout 45% of all Concacaf teams earn 0 or 1 point.

Europe sends 13 teams, that means about 11% of European teams earn 0 or 1 point.

For reference, 0% of 5 or 6 South American teams earned 0 or 1 point, and New Zealand earned more than 1 point the one time they went.

s0phr0syne · 06-11-2012, 07:38 PM

I see....guess I can't argue with the numbers!

Gylden, i thought you were in Denmark last I saw. When did you shift?

maven · 06-11-2012, 08:26 PM

allez les bleus!

Dutch · 06-11-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by maven

allez les bleus!

Why doesn't that surprise me?

OrangeSe7en · 06-12-2012, 04:26 AM

Auf geht's Jungs!

LordHelmchen · 06-12-2012, 04:31 AM

lolcopter · 06-12-2012, 06:33 AM

^ nice

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 06-12-2012, 07:12 AM

http://dailydickpunch.com/category/euro-2012/

Thought they did really well with the subject.

As for me, I'm hoping that my Oranj can put something back together... after losing to the god damn Danes. smh.

ah ah ah, I'm Dirk KUYT.

Meck77 · 06-12-2012, 07:37 AM

GO UKRAINE!!!

Check out this story that aired on ESPN. One of the greatest teams to ever play the game.... They sacrificed their lives for the game.

http://www.ukiedaily.com/euro-2012/2...y-of-fc-start/

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DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 07:49 AM

Why is this thread named UEFA when it is dealing with Euro 2012? When posting about UEFA, please do, when posting about EURO2012 please do, but please express to the OP that they got it wrong please... UEFA is basically saying SciFi when talking only specifically about Star Wars or Star Trek... So when someone starts talking about Firefly (which is SciFi) they look like idiots - because the topic isn't SciFi - it's Star Wars...

Or do none of you understand that?

DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 07:51 AM

BUT, since we are talking about Euro 2012, GERMANY AND ENGLAND!!! I like Norway, but ... well... it's like liking Ireland or Turkey...

Or the Cleveland Browns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBDMMVctu8

Stagger Lee · 06-12-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DontBeMessin

Why is this thread named UEFA when it is dealing with Euro 2012? When posting about UEFA, please do, when posting about EURO2012 please do, but please express to the OP that they got it wrong please... UEFA is basically saying SciFi when talking only specifically about Star Wars or Star Trek... So when someone starts talking about Firefly (which is SciFi) they look like idiots - because the topic isn't SciFi - it's Star Wars...

Or do none of you understand that?

You do realize that UEFA is putting this tournament on right? I left the first few posts of yours alone, but now you're calling us out for being right.

It's the UEFA Euro 2012 cup. Goddamn raider fans.

Stagger Lee · 06-12-2012, 08:12 AM

UEFA = Union of European Football Associations. Google is your friend.

While you are correct they put on the Champions league as well, they do a whole lot more than that.

And, by the way, the Champions league is over and Chelsea FC won it, so no reason to root for your reds, because The Blues already have the Cup.

socalorado · 06-12-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

You do realize that UEFA is putting this tournament on right? I left the first few posts of yours alone, but now you're calling us out for being right.

It's the UEFA Euro 2012 cup. Goddamn raider fans.

DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

You do realize that UEFA is putting this tournament on right? I left the first few posts of yours alone, but now you're calling us out for being right.

It's the UEFA Euro 2012 cup. Goddamn raider fans.

I know that...

GO LIVERPOOL!!!!

GO BAYERN!!!!

That's UEFA ... but are you specifically talking about the EURO Cup? I believe that the Champions League is over...

ALSO - does UEFA have it's own cup? WHY YES IT DOES!!! Is that what you're talking about? The UEFA CUP? The thread is called the UEFA THREAD... Are you talking about what? The UEFA Cup? That's over... Chelsea won against my Bayern... OR are you talking about the Champions League?

Or just UEFA general... Then..

GO LIVERPOOL!!!!!

StugotsIII · 06-12-2012, 08:47 AM

How many ****ing tournaments do they have for soccer? It seems like it never ends….ever.

And each tournament is more important than the last…

DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

UEFA = Union of European Football Associations. Google is your friend.

While you are correct they put on the Champions league as well, they do a whole lot more than that.

And, by the way, the Champions league is over and Chelsea FC won it, so no reason to root for your reds, because The Blues already have the Cup.

THE BLUES SUCK ASS!!!! **** THE BLUES!!!!!!!!!!

UEFA is a whole organization… Your thread stated the UEFA thread… thus we can talk about ANYTHING UEFA… unless you are trying to make a thread about Euro 2012 specifically…? Well… which is it?

Stagger Lee · 06-12-2012, 08:52 AM

I don't have the words...

DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by StugotsIII

How many ****ing tournaments do they have for soccer? It seems like it never ends….ever.

And each tournament is more important than the last…

The only one that matters is anything FIFA!!! All the rest is just warm-ups...

DontBeMessin · 06-12-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

I don't have the words...

Exactly... Next time use Google as you told me and make your thread specific to the "festivity" you are trying to discuss...

GO LIVERPOOL!!!!!!

Beantown Bronco · 06-12-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DontBeMessin

THE BLUES SUCK ASS!!!! **** THE BLUES!!!!!!!!!!

UEFA is a whole organization… Your thread stated the UEFA thread… thus we can talk about ANYTHING UEFA… unless you are trying to make a thread about Euro 2012 specifically…? Well… which is it?

Don't be a dink. Given the timing of this thread, and the opening post, it's pretty obvious what he's referring to.

maven · 06-12-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Why doesn't that surprise me?

We are the powerhouse of Europe!

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Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,309	GO UKRAINE!!! Check out this story that aired on ESPN. One of the greatest teams to ever play the game.... They sacrificed their lives for the game. http://www.ukiedaily.com/euro-2012/2...y-of-fc-start/ Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Last edited by Meck77; 06-12-2012 at 07:44 AM..

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DontBeMessin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,372	BUT, since we are talking about Euro 2012, GERMANY AND ENGLAND!!! I like Norway, but ... well... it's like liking Ireland or Turkey... Or the Cleveland Browns... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBDMMVctu8 Last edited by DontBeMessin; 06-12-2012 at 07:54 AM..

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Stagger Lee Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 430 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del Rio	UEFA = Union of European Football Associations. Google is your friend. While you are correct they put on the Champions league as well, they do a whole lot more than that. And, by the way, the Champions league is over and Chelsea FC won it, so no reason to root for your reds, because The Blues already have the Cup. Last edited by Stagger Lee; 06-12-2012 at 08:22 AM..

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DontBeMessin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,372	Why is this thread named UEFA when it is dealing with Euro 2012? When posting about UEFA, please do, when posting about EURO2012 please do, but please express to the OP that they got it wrong please... UEFA is basically saying SciFi when talking only specifically about Star Wars or Star Trek... So when someone starts talking about Firefly (which is SciFi) they look like idiots - because the topic isn't SciFi - it's Star Wars... Or do none of you understand that?

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StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,248 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	How many ****ing tournaments do they have for soccer? It seems like it never ends….ever. And each tournament is more important than the last…

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Stagger Lee Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 430 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del Rio	I don't have the words...