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Old 06-14-2012, 05:54 AM   #826
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Good lord I now fully understand why everyone rails on book four. Im just starting it now, but it cant hope to be anywhere CLOSE to three. I'm still in awe and disbelief of everything that just transpired in the last thousand pages. if what everyone says is true, the next thousand is going to feel like watching griese falter and TD tear an acl after 97/98 incredibleness.

Im still trying to wrap my head around the epilogue of 3 with donderrion, the riders, and the "hooded woman". Wtf!?!?!!!

Oh, and another thing...glancing through the table of contents...where are all of the characters?
Book 3 took me two weeks of casual reading to finish. Book 4 took me a month because of all of the yawns.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:11 AM   #827
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Good lord I now fully understand why everyone rails on book four. Im just starting it now, but it cant hope to be anywhere CLOSE to three. I'm still in awe and disbelief of everything that just transpired in the last thousand pages. if what everyone says is true, the next thousand is going to feel like watching griese falter and TD tear an acl after 97/98 incredibleness.

Im still trying to wrap my head around the epilogue of 3 with donderrion, the riders, and the "hooded woman". Wtf!?!?!!!

Oh, and another thing...glancing through the table of contents...where are all of the characters?
Originally book 4 and 5 were to be one book. I read an interview with GRRM and he said he got through half the story and it was 1000 pages so he split it up. All the characters you don't see in book 4 are in book 5 a great deal. Book 4 and half of book 5 take place during the same time period and it all comes back together at the end of 5.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:19 AM   #828
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Originally book 4 and 5 were to be one book. I read an interview with GRRM and he said he got through half the story and it was 1000 pages so he split it up. All the characters you don't see in book 4 are in book 5 a great deal. Book 4 and half of book 5 take place during the same time period and it all comes back together at the end of 5.
UNTIL THE END OF BOOK 5 LEAVES YOU GOING ?

Book 6 needs to come out because this series went to the crapper in my opinion leaving so many open story lines!
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:27 AM   #829
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http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/inside/interviews/george-r-r-martin?autoplay=true&cmpid=ABC587

Doesn't sound like it's very close
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:08 AM   #830
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He's definitely got pressure to finish now, though. Before he was just like "whatev." Refering to the series as "a locamotive bearing down on me" suggests more urgency than he usually has when he's busy blogging about the Jets.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:50 AM   #831
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http://io9.com/5918114/george-w-bush...ame-of-thrones lol. One of the heads on a pike is George W Bush's.
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And here he is discussing splitting up book 4 and 5. He jokes that we can mesh them together if we want. I'm surprised no one on the net has done that yet. I would have much rather read that monstrosity. I hope he never splits his books again.

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/done.html
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:26 AM   #833
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Good lord I now fully understand why everyone rails on book four. Im just starting it now, but it cant hope to be anywhere CLOSE to three. I'm still in awe and disbelief of everything that just transpired in the last thousand pages. if what everyone says is true, the next thousand is going to feel like watching griese falter and TD tear an acl after 97/98 incredibleness.

Im still trying to wrap my head around the epilogue of 3 with donderrion, the riders, and the "hooded woman". Wtf!?!?!!!

Oh, and another thing...glancing through the table of contents...where are all of the characters?
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #834
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Ok. Spoiler(The final scene Sensa is smiling because the sister to the knight of flowers wants and gets to marry King Joffery. Is it because she thinks she gets to go home or because she has a scheme cooking?)
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She's happy because she will no longer be wed to a psychopath who has abused her physically, sexually, mentally and emotionally for months.

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Old 06-14-2012, 12:02 PM   #835
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Have you guys seen this? Now, I know real life politics does not belong in this thread, but it doesn't belong in Game of Thrones either.

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"It's not a choice, not a political statement!" one of the writers insisted during the DVD commentary. "We just had to use what heads we had around."
Bull****.

If I weren't such a fan of the books/show I would stop watching. This really disgusts me.

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Old 06-14-2012, 12:08 PM   #836
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Have you guys seen this? Now, I know real life politics does not belong in this thread, but it doesn't belong in Game of Thrones either.



Ludicrous. If I weren't such a fan of the books/show I would stop watching. This really disgusts me though.

That is really funny though.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:16 PM   #837
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Yeah, hilarious. If it were obama the media (and this place) would be a zoo.
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Yeah, hilarious. If it were obama the media (and this place) would be a zoo.
You can cut it both ways. When you work in a prop department you're looking to save money. You could argue all the heads on the pikes were good men killed by a wicked little bastard. In that sense it suggests he was one of the good guys.

But yes, if Obama's head was up there, there would be a firestorm.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:21 PM   #839
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Bull****.

If I weren't such a fan of the books/show I would stop watching. This really disgusts me.
Y u mad tho

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Old 06-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #840
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You could argue all the heads on the pikes were good men killed by a wicked little bastard. In that sense it suggests he was one of the good guys.
Yeah that was the intent.
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Who cares... It could have been Michael Jacksons head or Lady Di. It does not matter. It means nothing. Its a head. It is a prop. Unless you all look specifically at each face as it tells a major part of the book or series, then Id say lets not be so uptight. It changes nothing in your world or the show.
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Who cares... It could have been Michael Jacksons head or Lady Di. It does not matter. It means nothing. Its a head. It is a prop. Unless you all look specifically at each face as it tells a major part of the book or series, then Id say lets not be so uptight. It changes nothing in your world or the show.
It's no big deal....just some dip-**** making a political statement.


Anyone that thinks this wasn't a political statement is on shrooms.
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Yeah that was the intent.
It was a tongue in cheek response. My point is they were grabbing props and that was it. It wasn't a political statement one way or the other.
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It's no big deal....just some dip-**** making a political statement.


Anyone that thinks this wasn't a political statement is on shrooms.
It wasn't a political statement.
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It was stupid to use in the first place because people on both sides of the aisle go retarded over stuff like this, even though it's really pointless.

But, the true DUMB factor comes into play with the producers talking about it in the commentary on the DVD. Without that, no one notices or cares.
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It wasn't a political statement.
You really don't think they had another head laying around?

Come on...
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:52 PM   #848
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SPOILER: ( I STILL haven't quite figured out how that priest keeps bringing donderion back to life, but I'm "assuming" it has something to do with the Lord of Light? And since they were all pro Stark at some point, that's why they brough Catelyn back? Is this going to be explained in books four and five? Cause if so, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME!!!! )
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:06 PM   #849
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It's Bush's fault. He shouldn't have had his head languishing in the props inventory. I'm curious what show that head was originally used in that it'd be lying around as a prop, American Skull ****?
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:50 PM   #850
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You can cut it both ways. When you work in a prop department you're looking to save money. You could argue all the heads on the pikes were good men killed by a wicked little bastard. In that sense it suggests he was one of the good guys.

But yes, if Obama's head was up there, there would be a firestorm.
You can bet on that. I think it's funny though and I love the show. HBO can be edgy with their humor. This was no accident though. Directors have a long history of adding little things in the background of films. It's like a pop culture thing for people into the show to find and talk about.

They should just wait until later in the show and make one of the white walkers look like Obama.
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