Fascinating documentary exposes cancer industry's death agenda: Cut Poison Burn

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

It's not so much that you are closed minded it's that you think you have a complete answer.

Where is your curiosity?

Nice ad-hominem attack. Care to try again with some integrity?

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

"What's sad is the vast amount of success stories out there curing cancer using a myriad of alternative methods."

Spend 60 minutes researching cured cancers and you will see my claim is accurate. Just one hour.

[IHaveALight]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

As usual, a plethora of grandiose claims, and exactly zero support.

There is exactly zero support, when you're coming from a tunnel vision perspective that automatically dismisses anything to the contrary. (Such as you my friend)

However time and time again their have been many individuals who have quit poising their body's and allowed their body's to heal them selves. Not just with cancer but many other diseases as well. But that's not possible, because we don't have the science to prove it!! haha you crack me up man.

[Fedaykin]

If you want to learn about Burzynski from a real doctor:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...e-a-bad-movie/

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

Nice ad-hominem attack. Care to try again with some integrity?

How can we talk about this when you already know all the answers?

I know every statement I made in the post that is supposedly grandiose is easily provable with a minimal search effort that you refuse to make. I have provided thousands of links over the years (granted some better than others), enough to prove my statements in that one post you question.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

Spend 60 minutes researching cured cancers and you will see my claim is accurate. Just one hour.

I'm lazy. Point me to a high quality study that demonstrates the efficacy of these "treatments". Not a collection of anecdotes.

I've read a lot about cancer "cures". For example, I read up on "Vitamin C" (something you claim is a miracle cure) a while back. Total bunk.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

How can we talk about this when you already know all the answers?

I know every statement I made in the post that is supposedly grandiose is easily provable with a minimal search effort that you refuse to make. I have provided thousands of links over the years (granted some better than others), enough to prove my statements in that one post you question.

I've never seen you post a link to legitimate information. It's always from crank sites. Where's the peer reviewed research?

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by IHaveALight

There is exactly zero support, when you're coming from a tunnel vision perspective that automatically dismisses anything to the contrary. (Such as you my friend)

However time and time again their have been many individuals who have quit poising their body's and allowed their body's to heal them selves. Not just with cancer but many other diseases as well. But that's not possible, because we don't have the science to prove it!! haha you crack me up man.

If something is effective, the evidence should be easy to demonstrate.

Dismissing something that is unable to produce any evidence is the correct action to take.

(that does not imply you should stop people from trying to find evidence)

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

I've never seen you post a link to legitimate information. It's always from crank sites. Where's the peer reviewed research?

How about reviewing the people that were cured. They are out there by the 10,000s of thousands.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

How can we talk about this when you already know all the answers?

I know every statement I made in the post that is supposedly grandiose is easily provable with a minimal search effort that you refuse to make. I have provided thousands of links over the years (granted some better than others), enough to prove my statements in that one post you question.

I'm deadly curious. What do you think qualifies as legitimate "research" into this.

Rifling through the interwebs (except of course, that terrible Wikipedia which cannot possibly match the quality of naturalnews.com)?

[baja]

You are looking for a review from and source that would incriminate it self if they investigated and reported accurately these alternative therapies. They can not afford to legitimize them it's that simple.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

How about reviewing the people that were cured. They are out there by the 10,000s of thousands.

Surely there's been a nice study put together. There are literally thousands of researchers looking for a cure.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

You are looking for a review from and source that would incriminate it self if they investigated and reported accurately these alternative therapies. They can not afford to legitimize them it's that simple.

Nope. I'm looking for a legitimate study. I don't care about the source as long as their results are clearly documented and repeatable -- like good scientific work always is.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

If something is effective, the evidence should be easy to demonstrate.

Dismissing something that is unable to produce any evidence is the correct action to take.

(that does not imply you should stop people from trying to find evidence)

Watch this documentary might be a good place to start;

http://www.gabrielcousens.com/STORE/...S/Default.aspx

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by baja

Watch this documentary might be a good place to start;

http://www.gabrielcousens.com/STORE/...S/Default.aspx

I'm not interested in a documentary that's full of a bunch of entirely unverifiable information. Where's the research?

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

I'm not interested in a documentary. Where's the research?

OK nite nite

[snowspot66]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

If you want to learn about Burzynski from a real doctor:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...e-a-bad-movie/

Now that was worth the time to read.

For those who didn't read it one particularly interesting tidbit is this:

The paranoid conspiracy aura that surrounds Burzynski The Movie is palpable and becomes quite oppressive by the end of the movie. Pharma, the NCI, the FDA, the Texas Medical Board, and every medical authority are all against Burzynski, the lone heroic doctor battling against all odds to bring his cure for cancer to all. Yes, it’s just that nauseatingly blatant. At every point, antineoplastons are presented as nontoxic, effective, and downright miraculous when they are none of these.

Worse, despite Burzynski’s representation of his therapy as being “nontoxic,” in contrast to chemotherapy, some of his antineoplaston preparations are quite toxic. The reason is two-fold: (1) high doses of antineoplastons are required; and (2) some antineoplaston preparations are very sodium-rich. Dr. Burzynski’s therapy requires the adminstration of so much antineoplaston as sodium salts that several of his patients developed hypernatremia, in one case as high as 180 mEq/L. (A normal serum sodium level ranges between 135 and 145 mEq/L.) Personally, I’ve never seen a sodium level that high in a living patient. When sodium levels get into the 155 mEq/L and up range, clinicians start to get very worried and usually start aggressive treatment to bring the sodium levels down. Worse, these are patients with brain cancer. One danger is that, in correcting the hypernatremia, sometimes cerebral edema (brain swelling) will result. In a patient with a brain tumor, cerebral edema could be even more dangerous than in a patient without such a tumor. Despite reviewers being alarmed at the hypernatremia some of Burzynski’s patients developed, astoundingly he still claimed that he had no “significant toxicity.”

Apparently the drug this guy charges outrageous sums of money for is just a different form of chemotherapy that doesn't work but still gives you a bunch of dangerous side effects. That's some good irony right there.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by snowspot66

Now that was worth the time to read.

For those who didn't read it one particularly interesting tidbit is this:





Apparently the drug this guy charges outrageous sums of money for is just a different form of chemotherapy that doesn't work but still gives you a bunch of dangerous side effects. That's some good irony right there.

Also a fun irony re: the preceding exchange between Baja, Light and me:

"In the meantime, testimonials and no firm clinical trial data to support Burzynski’s methods have been par for the course ever since, for over three decades now."

[Rohirrim]

I think science is one of the great achievements of mankind. We should try it.

[alkemical]

has anyone looked into rick smith's work/cure/claim?

www.phoenixtears.ca

[baja]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

That's a pretty hilarious criticism coming from someone who cites "Natural News" and other crank websites.

If you are genuine please watch this and comment;

[That One Guy]

Why do we continue to open threads by baja when we know the ignorance to be found on the other side? We must truly love facepalming...

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by baja

If you are genuine please watch this and comment;

The opening statement by the SF cop got my attention.

I will watch the rest later. Thanks for posting.....and how's the fishing?

[baja]

Originally Posted by That One Guy

Why do we continue to open threads by baja when we know the ignorance to be found on the other side? We must truly love facepalming...

Watch it you fool and than tell me what you think.

You clowns that dismiss without investigation display for all to see your systemic ignorance.

BTW Your use of 'we' is quite presumptuous. Many posters have thanked me via the rep feature for many of my threads.

I hope you someday find your way out of your shroud of ignorance that in-prisons you.

[baja]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

The opening statement by the SF cop got my attention.

I will watch the rest later. Thanks for posting.....and how's the fishing?

G20 is here no fishing allowed. You would not believe the level of security.

The documentary is very powerful. I highly recommend it.