Justice for Mijo - Minister kills neighbors dog with machete

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

Just cause the dog escape got out of the yard does not give anyone a right to kill an animal. that like saying you leave your own yard i could kill you.


That still has no right to go and kill an animal just cause its an animal to you does not mean anything people like you sicking me beyond distrubing i would risk my OWN LIFE TO SAVE A DOG. people like you think animals are less important than humans you are wrong. the fact of the matter is dog do escape the dog didn't hurt anyone the dog got hurt from some crazy man who should be in jail. You have no right no matter if the dog escape or not to kill or hurt an animal in anyway that is the most idoitc reason i ever heard you should be ashed of yourself.

1. If you have a pet, you are responsible for keeping that pet safe on your own property. This is no different from your responsibility to see to your pet's other basic needs like food and water. Of all the bad things that can happen to a pet that's "off-leash", facing a psycho with a machete is way down the list. It's far more likely that the pet could be hit by a car or taken to the pound, where it could very possibly be euthanized within mere days.

2. Unless your dog is a purebred champion-bloodline AKC registered animal, it should be spayed/neutered. A spayed/neutered pet is a better pet and generally is not running loose in the neighborhood looking to contribute to the overpopulation of unwanted pets by siring a new litter of mutt puppies.

And again, you must have missed the part where I said there's no excuse for the psycho's actions... however, primary responsibility for the incident lies with the pet owner who failed to neuter his dog and then failed to keep it safe on his property.

My dog is NEVER outside of my fenced yard unless he's on the leash. And the first thing we did after adopting him from the animal shelter and ensuring that he was healthy and had all of his shots... was to have him neutered, even though he most likely is a purebred animal.

[vancejohnson82]

good post Blue....the actions were inexcusable but every pet should be "fixed" and in a contained area

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by baja

The USA has turned into a country of sissified weak minded punks. There is a reason you are called the lost generation.

I call them the Zombie generation.

Check this out, it is you future.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=8&item=0

especially the ones who run away to Mexico.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Dyslexia and the associated conditions with it aren't really something to joke about, even if you don't like Baja.

Get off the high horse. We make fun of retards, the blind, those who can't spell in English(foreigners!) and even Chiefs' fans. If you can't make fun of dyslexia then you probably can't make fun of anything.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by critter171

Just cause the dog escape got out of the yard does not give anyone a right to kill an animal. that like saying you leave your own yard i could kill you.


That still has no right to go and kill an animal just cause its an animal to you does not mean anything people like you sicking me beyond distrubing i would risk my OWN LIFE TO SAVE A DOG. people like you think animals are less important than humans you are wrong. the fact of the matter is dog do escape the dog didn't hurt anyone the dog got hurt from some crazy man who should be in jail. You have no right no matter if the dog escape or not to kill or hurt an animal in anyway that is the most idoitc reason i ever heard you should be ashed of yourself.

God, now we know why this person is on here with the passion of this story. First nimrod, see in Orange (and not blue) that if BlueFlame left the yard, it doesn't give you the right to butcher her. Now if she went over and started to **** your kid, you might have a reason to go machete on her. Be reasonable in your argument. 2nd, it isn't just BlueFlame but all rational humans think dogs are less important then humans. We do have the right to kill a dog that escapes their yard to protect their own family or other more important things like......wait for it......humans! Oh, crazy huh? So go back to your PETA rally and go donate money to this legal fund and maybe (just maybe) it is real. Those pictures can also be what is being made for dinner in an Asian country. Like CanadianBroncosfan stated, no report anywhere except on FB and forums all over the place. Too sketchy for me.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

good post Blue....the actions were inexcusable but every pet should be "fixed" and in a contained area

I live way out in "the sticks" but there is still a leash law here and owners who don't keep their dogs on their own property can be cited. Probably the biggest risk to a dog (if it's running loose) is the highway... but there's also wildlife (particularly coyotes) that could and would kill a pet dog. Another threat if one's dog is small (or to cats) is the two pairs of nesting bald eagles in the immediate vicinity... and owls, of course. Your dog could and would be shot on the spot if it's caught chasing deer. The only way your pet is safe is if it's where it's supposed to be (on your property).

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

God, now we know why this person is on here with the passion of this story. First nimrod, see in Orange (and not blue) that if BlueFlame left the yard, it doesn't give you the right to butcher her. Now if she went over and started to **** your kid, you might have a reason to go machete on her. Be reasonable in your argument. 2nd, it isn't just BlueFlame but all rational humans think dogs are less important then humans. We do have the right to kill a dog that escapes their yard to protect their own family or other more important things like......wait for it......humans! Oh, crazy huh? So go back to your PETA rally and go donate money to this legal fund and maybe (just maybe) it is real. Those pictures can also be what is being made for dinner in an Asian country. Like CanadianBroncosfan stated, no report anywhere except on FB and forums all over the place. Too sketchy for me.

Know what's really appalling about his remark (that if a human leaves their yard, they can be killed)? Police in an area not 50 miles from me are currently on a massive manhunt for a psycho who stabbed a lady to death while she was minding her own business walking her dog. But there's no way he could have known that....

[baja]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

especially the ones who run away to Mexico.

I keep hearing that. Do you know someone that did that?

Me I moved to Mexico for an amazing career opportunity and the decision has been very good to me. Sure there are things I miss in the US but I return about every three months and often spend the summers in various parts of the States. There are thousands just like me living abroad who remain loyal Americans. No way would I give up my citizenship like the co founder of Twitter did. What I find pathetic is guys like Meck that never actually served his country that feel entitled to beat their chest and declare me. a Vet Nam era veteran with 3 years of service a traitor. If it weren't for guys like me that served guys like him might be speaking a different language.

Contrary to what some say here I do love The United States of America and it's incredible Constitution and Bill of Rights. It's because of that love and respect that I often rile against the foreign powers that are slowly taking control of our country via the take over of the federal government. I also rile on people that display a deep denial about this take over of the once best form of government in the world, ever.

What great American said, "If citizens are not vigilant soon they will lose all their rights. That is happening right now.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Requiem

You aren't obligated to respect him, but dyslexia is pretty serious. If he does have that, that is very sad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

Many well know people have it.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

1. If you have a pet, you are responsible for keeping that pet safe on your own property. This is no different from your responsibility to see to your pet's other basic needs like food and water. Of all the bad things that can happen to a pet that's "off-leash", facing a psycho with a machete is way down the list. It's far more likely that the pet could be hit by a car or taken to the pound, where it could very possibly be euthanized within mere days.

2. Unless your dog is a purebred champion-bloodline AKC registered animal, it should be spayed/neutered. A spayed/neutered pet is a better pet and generally is not running loose in the neighborhood looking to contribute to the overpopulation of unwanted pets by siring a new litter of mutt puppies.

And again, you must have missed the part where I said there's no excuse for the psycho's actions... however, primary responsibility for the incident lies with the pet owner who failed to neuter his dog and then failed to keep it safe on his property.

My dog is NEVER outside of my fenced yard unless he's on the leash. And the first thing we did after adopting him from the animal shelter and ensuring that he was healthy and had all of his shots... was to have him neutered, even though he most likely is a purebred animal.

again lets put this way have a child ever run away before from you? its the same thing and matters on the law of each state. you either have control of the dog or you have it own a leash we don't know how he escpae ok that still GIVES NO ONE A DAMN RIGHT TO KILL A DOG. No i saw that part i just ignore it.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by critter171

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

Many well know people have it.

I know. I was supporting Baja and hoping others wouldn't make fun of him for something very serious. Hits close to home. I'm not dyslexic though. According to my Stanford Scholastic Achievement Test, I was reading at a college level when I was in sixth grade. Yay!

[critter171]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

God, now we know why this person is on here with the passion of this story. First nimrod, see in Orange (and not blue) that if BlueFlame left the yard, it doesn't give you the right to butcher her. Now if she went over and started to **** your kid, you might have a reason to go machete on her. Be reasonable in your argument. 2nd, it isn't just BlueFlame but all rational humans think dogs are less important then humans. We do have the right to kill a dog that escapes their yard to protect their own family or other more important things like......wait for it......humans! Oh, crazy huh? So go back to your PETA rally and go donate money to this legal fund and maybe (just maybe) it is real. Those pictures can also be what is being made for dinner in an Asian country. Like CanadianBroncosfan stated, no report anywhere except on FB and forums all over the place. Too sketchy for me.

No in fact i would take a bullet for a dog more than i would for a human i love animals and animals are better than humans and one reason why they Don't judge the person they love. No you don't have a right to kill a dog the dog was no way in a threating mannner and there other way around to stop a dog from attacking you. But what if a person came attacking i have a right to defend myself and shoot. (stand your ground law in many states including mine) I don't give two flying monkey butts about peta can go down to the earth and go away there are no way of a animal lover.

they just a pony up people who have no lives. Good for you and i can tell you those picture are not from asia and i can tell you those are deep cuts just cause its not in the news does not mean it didn't happen. In fact the guy has been deny more than once by the news for whatever odd reason of an excuse they use. you just want to jump to assumption that a sick guy would go to all the trouble making a page filing a report out calling new station over and over. yea so much for a bs story its people like you that need to learn a leasosn.

Here facts animals get abuse do we see that in the news? no but we know it happens does that make it seckty no.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Requiem

I know. I was supporting Baja and hoping others wouldn't make fun of him for something very serious. Hits close to home. I'm not dyslexic though. According to my Stanford Scholastic Achievement Test, I was reading at a college level when I was in sixth grade. Yay!

oh thank for quoting me i have a tednecny to hit enter when i am done it would of been three post of me to three different people. also i know you were. We need more people like you in this world.

Originally Posted by Blueflame

Know what's really appalling about his remark (that if a human leaves their yard, they can be killed)? Police in an area not 50 miles from me are currently on a massive manhunt for a psycho who stabbed a lady to death while she was minding her own business walking her dog. But there's no way he could have known that....

so the dog was minding his own business its same thing the only difference is two one has four legs and the other has two and female.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

again lets put this way have a child ever run away before from you? its the same thing and matters on the law of each state. you either have control of the dog or you have it own a leash we don't know how he escpae ok that still GIVES NO ONE A DAMN RIGHT TO KILL A DOG. No i saw that part i just ignore it.

No, I have never had a child ever run away from me... and I raised six. Not that there's anything remotely similar between a child running away and an intact male dog... that should have been neutered... getting off of his leash.

The psycho did not have the right to kill the dog and I never said he did; it's intellectual dishonesty to claim that I said one thing... when what I actually said was the polar opposite.

However... the dog's owner also did not have the right to allow his pet to run loose... and the dog would have been safe if the owner had: a) secured him better on his own property and/or b) had the dog neutered so that it would be more content with remaining in its boundaries. You cannot in good faith absolve the dog's owner of all responsibility for what happened. Had he done what he was supposed to do (what he was legally required to do if... like most places... his city had a leash law), that dog would still be alive.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

No, I have never had a child ever run away from me... and I raised six. Not that there's anything remotely similar between a child running away and an intact male dog... that should have been neutered... getting off of his leash.

The psycho did not have the right to kill the dog and I never said he did; it's intellectual dishonesty to claim that I said one thing... when what I actually said was the polar opposite.

However... the dog's owner also did not have the right to allow his pet to run loose... and the dog would have been safe if the owner had: a) secured him better on his own property and/or b) had the dog neutered so that it would be more content with remaining in its boundaries. You cannot in good faith absolve the dog's owner of all responsibility for what happened. Had he done what he was supposed to do (what he was legally required to do if... like most places... his city had a leash law), that dog would still be alive.

just cause a dog humps does not mean he is not neutered. Look you can' stop things from happening and i say it again we do not know how the dog got loose. it still does not matter the guy with the wepon is more dangerous in the neigbhoorhood now if he can do that to a dog he can do that to a human. the dog would still be alive if the minister left him alone. geeze your are jumping to assumptions

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

so the dog was minding his own business its same thing the only difference is two one has four legs and the other has two and female.

The dog had no business being leashless on the neighbors' property and his owner could have been cited and fined for allowing him to run loose. The human being had every right to be on a public trail walking her leashed dog. You're not good at this "debate" thing, are you?

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

The dog had no business being leashless on the neighbors' property and his owner could have been cited and fined for allowing him to run loose. The human being had every right to be on a public trail walking her leashed dog. You're not good at this "debate" thing, are you?

one he was not the neighbors property second we don't know the law in that city at all. the human had no right to kill an animal period you seem not to understand my points as your jumping to assumption.
edit: at least i don't need to make up bs stuff to argue unlike you.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

just cause a dog humps does not mean he is not neutered. Look you can' stop things from happening and i say it again we do not know how the dog got loose. it still does not matter the guy with the wepon is more dangerous in the neigbhoorhood now if he can do that to a dog he can do that to a human. the dog would still be alive if the minister left him alone. geeze your are jumping to assumptions

It doesn't matter. The dog wasn't where he belonged and the owner was responsible.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

one he was not the neighbors property second we don't know the law in that city at all. the human had no right to kill an animal period you seem not to understand my points as your jumping to assumption.
edit: at least i don't need to make up bs stuff to argue unlike you.

All cities have leash laws.

The dog was running loose to hump the neighbor's dog.... nowhere did the story say that the "hump-ee" was also running loose.

Two people were responsible for the dog's death:

1. The owner for letting the dog run loose and
2. The psycho who killed the dog.

Both are responsible.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

All cities have leash laws.

The dog was running loose to hump the neighbor's dog.... nowhere did the story say that the "hump-ee" was also running loose.

Two people were responsible for the dog's death:

1. The owner for letting the dog run loose and
2. The psycho who killed the dog.

Both are responsible.

all cities don't have leash laws
1. the owner didn't go take a dog of the leash to run for fun
2. the only one repsobiler for the death of the dog is the minister.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

all cities don't have leash laws
1. the owner didn't go take a dog of the leash to run for fun
2. the only one repsobiler for the death of the dog is the minister.

Name one city that doesn't have a leash law. As noted above, I don't even live in a city but there's a leash law here (county ordinance) and owners are held responsible if their dogs are loose.

The dog's owner did not ensure that the dog could not escape. It was his responsibility to do that... just as it was his responsibility to make sure the dog had food and water.

Your position that dogs should be free to roam wherever they want to go is untenable. The law simply doesn't see it that way.

I'm unfamiliar with the word "repsobiler". Please provide the definition.

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by critter171

No in fact i would take a bullet for a dog more than i would for a human i love animals and animals are better than humans and one reason why they Don't judge the person they love. No you don't have a right to kill a dog the dog was no way in a threating mannner and there other way around to stop a dog from attacking you. But what if a person came attacking i have a right to defend myself and shoot. (stand your ground law in many states including mine) I don't give two flying monkey butts about peta can go down to the earth and go away there are no way of a animal lover.

they just a pony up people who have no lives. Good for you and i can tell you those picture are not from asia and i can tell you those are deep cuts just cause its not in the news does not mean it didn't happen. In fact the guy has been deny more than once by the news for whatever odd reason of an excuse they use. you just want to jump to assumption that a sick guy would go to all the trouble making a page filing a report out calling new station over and over. yea so much for a bs story its people like you that need to learn a leasosn.

Here facts animals get abuse do we see that in the news? no but we know it happens does that make it seckty no.

You realize if you and your loyal, loving dog were locked in a room and starving to death, he probably wouldn't give it much thought before eating you, right?

[critter171]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

Name one city that doesn't have a leash law. As noted above, I don't even live in a city but there's a leash law here (county ordinance) and owners are held responsible if their dogs are loose.

The dog's owner did not ensure that the dog could not escape. It was his responsibility to do that... just as it was his responsibility to make sure the dog had food and water.

Your position that dogs should be free to roam wherever they want to go is untenable. The law simply doesn't see it that way.

I'm unfamiliar with the word "repsobiler". Please provide the definition.

Its a well know fact not all city have leash laws. Texas does not have a state-wide leash law.
it matters on the city

Now look at my state law.

"It is unlawful for any dog to run at large in New Hampshire, except (1) when the dog is accompanied by its owner or a custodian; or (2) where the dog is being used for, or being trained for, hunting, herding, or supervised competition and exhibition."

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/dog-bite/...aws/index.html
I never once said a dog should be able to free roam and you are insutling my spelling and grammar you should be ashamed of yourself. your reaching out to insult me since you have no augrement Its also respobility of people in the street not to go around killing animals. again you act like the owner let the dog run for the hell of it is your issue.

[critter171]

Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

good post Blue....the actions were inexcusable but every pet should be "fixed" and in a contained area

a dog should not be fixed cause you want him or to be fix. a dog should be fix if you don't want to bread.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by critter171

Its a well know fact not all city have leash laws. Texas does not have a state-wide leash law.
it matters on the city

Now look at my state law.

"It is unlawful for any dog to run at large in New Hampshire, except (1) when the dog is accompanied by its owner or a custodian; or (2) where the dog is being used for, or being trained for, hunting, herding, or supervised competition and exhibition."

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/dog-bite/...aws/index.html
I never once said a dog should be able to free roam and you are insutling my spelling and grammar you should be ashamed of yourself. your reaching out to insult me since you have no augrement Its also respobility of people in the street not to go around killing animals. again you act like the owner let the dog run for the hell of it is your issue.

I was unaware that Texas was a city.

OK, so by New Hampshire state law, a dog running loose looking to hump the neighbor's dog would not fall under either caveat (accompanied by its owner or a custodian or used for or trained for hunting or herding or supervised competition and exhibition. Also... I was unaware that New Hampshire was a city.

Look, if you're going to be understood by others in your written communications with them, your spelling should at least remotely resemble the word you're meaning to type (close enough to be a typo or "autocorrected" to something else).

Impounded dogs (those picked up by animal control and not re-claimed... with fees paid, btw... by their owners in time) are routinely euthanized (that means "killed") in this country every single day. And that's necessary even though it's sad. Partly because there are too many mutts in this country because people won't spay/neuter their pets and then allow them to escape from their leashes to go and hump the neighbor's dog.