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Old 04-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #701
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Look through the selection thread... anyone feel they did worse than the real life front office of Denver?

I doubt it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:29 AM   #702
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3 - Tony Bergstrom, OG, Utah (6-5, 313);
4 - Miles Burris, OLB, San Diego State (6-2, 246);
5 - Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State (6-5, 274);
5 - Juron Criner, WR, Arizona (6-3, 224);
6 - Christo Bilukidi, DT, Georgia State (6-4, 311);
7 - Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State (6-1, 241)

I'll put values on my draft later, but The Fade's front office got the same needs in the draft as I did.

--Depth on O-line
--Two OLBs who attack the QB
--A versatile D lineman who can slide underneath on 4 man fronts and play a 5 technique in a 3-4
--A big DT for 3-4 looks
--a possession WR to help Carson move the chains.

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Old 04-30-2012, 08:04 AM   #703
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My Draft compared to the real thing:

59:Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State - Went 19th to the Bears.

91:Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma State - 190 to the Titans.

125: James-Michael Johnson, ILB, Nevada - 120 to the Browns.

163:Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada - 227 to the Dolphins.

179:Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist - 71 to the Redskins.

181:Mike Daniels, DT, Iowa - 132 to the Packers.

237:DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State - 68 to the Texans.

Only Markelle Martin and Rishard Matthews were over picked, though both by a good amount. Big steals on McClellin, LeRibeus, Daniels, and Posey.

Also addressed 4 of the 5 positions New Orleans drafted.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:19 AM   #704
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Mine compared to Baltimore's real one with where they were taken in the real draft:

1-29 Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama (taken 10 picks later)
2-29 Mike Martin, DT, Michigan (taken 21 picks later)
3-29 Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State (undrafted)
4-35 Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas (taken 14 picks earlier)
5-29 Evan Rodriguez, FB/TE, Temple (taken 54 picks earlier)
5-35 Najee Goode, ILB, West Virginia (taken 31 picks earlier)
6-29 Brandon Hardin, S, Oregon State (taken 122 picks earlier)
7-29 Keshawn Martin, WR/KR, Michigan State (taken 118 picks earlier)

UDFA

Travis Benjamin, WR, Miami (taken in the 5th round)
Marquis Maze, WR, Alabama (UDFA with Steelers)
Cyhl Quarles, S, Wake Forest (undrafted)
Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati (taken in 4th round)
Joel Foreman, OC, Michigan State (undrafted)
Louis Nzegwu, DE, Wisconsin (UDFA with Falcons)
Tyler Nielsen, LB, Iowa (UDFA with Vikings)
Sean Richardson, S, Vanderbilt (undrafted)

Excellent value in later rounds and UDFA. Poor value in first three rounds.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:42 AM   #705
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All my players made a team. The biggest reach was Dwight Jones in the 6th. The biggest values were Ronnie Hillman in the 4th and Lamar Holmes as a free agent signing.

1(12) *Dontari Poe DT Memphis (taken 1 pick earlier by Chiefs)
2(43) Andre Branch DE Clemson (taken 5 picks earlier by Jaguars)
3(76) Sean Spence OLB Miami (taken 10 picks later by Steelers)
4(109) *Ronnie Hillman RB San Diego State (taken 42 picks earlier by Broncos)
6(183) Dwight Jones WR North Carolina (UDFA with Texans)
7(222) B.J. Coleman QB Chattanooga (taken 21 picks later by Packers)
7(228) Alex Hoffman-Ellis OLB Washington State (UDFA with Rams)

UDFAs

Lamar Holmes, OT, Southern Mississippi (taken in 3rd round by Falcons)
Tim Fugger, DE, Vanderbilt (taken in 7th round by Colts)
Terrence Frederick, CB, Texas A&M (taken in 7th round by Steelers)
Austin Davis, QB, Southern Mississippi, (UDFA with Rams)
Davin Meggett, RB, Maryland (UDFA with Texans)
Garrett Celek, TE, Michigan State (UDFA with 49ers)
Desmond Wynn, OG, Rutgers (UDFA with Buccaneers)
Lionel Smith, CB, Texas A&M (UDFA with Cowboys)
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1-13 (13): Arizona (TheReverend) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa - went to Lions 10 picks later

3-18 (82): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma - went to Cards in the 3rd round #80, ding ding

4-17 (115): Arizona (TheReverend) - Chris Rainey, RB/KR, Florida - went to Steelers in the 5th, #159

5-16 (152): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jack Crawford, DE, PSU - Raiders in 5th, #158

6-15 (187): Arizona (TheReverend) - Rishaw Johnson, G, Cal-PA - UDFA to Seattle for aforementioned character issues

7-14 (224): Arizona (TheReverend) - Derrius Brooks, CB, Western Kentucky - UDFA to Cinci with the rest of my favorite players

UDFA class
T.J. Graham, WR, NC State - Bills in the THIRD, #69
Rokevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina - Rams in the fifth, #150
Carmen Messina, ILB, New Mexico - UDFA to Detroit
Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State - went to Raiders in 7th, #230
D'Anton Lynn, CB, Penn State - too slow
Renard Williams, DT, EAstern Washington - "I have a few things lined up already" whatever that means
Levell Coppage, RB, Wisconsin-Whitewater lol talking to Packers

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Turns out my boom or bust "reach" draft did was more in tune with the actual draft than I figured and the UDFA round saw more booming than busting... so far lol. We'll see how these guys pan out but I'd be surprised if <80% aren't still playing in the NFL in 3 years and <50% as starters.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:12 PM   #707
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for the most part i actually did ok with my draft. My Vontaze pick was extremely early in the real draft, but I knew Houghtham wouldn't let him get to the 5th, so I pulled the trigger and got him in the 4th. guy is going to be a straight up steal.

1-14 David DeCastro OG (actually went 1-24 to Pittsburgh)
3-4 Doug Martin RB (actually went 1-31 to Tampa - Great value on this pick)
3-19 Jayron Hosley CB (actually went 3-31 to NY Giants)
3-28 Antonio Allen SS (actually went 7-35 to NY Giants - lost a lot of value on this pick)
4-10 Vontaze Burfict LB (UDFA Cincinatti)
4-39 Nick Foles QB (actually went 3-25 to Philadelphia - he will be the starter there within 2 years)
5-17 DeAngelo Peterson TE (UDFA St Louis - still can't believe he wasn't drafted considering this was a weaker TE class and he was one of the better TE available

UDFA - Darius Fleming - OLB Notre Dame (actually went 5-30 to SF)
UDFA - Patrick Edwards - WR Houston (UDFA Detroit)
UDFA - Lance Lewis - WR East Carolina (UDFA Washington)
UDFA - Anthony Miller - TE California (UDFA Denver)

so all in all i got grat value on Martin and Foles with draft picks and Fleming was a great UDFA pickup.

lost a lot of value on Burfict, Allen and Peterson, but I really wanted Burfict ecause he is going to be a steal and Houghtham would not have allowed him to slip into the 5th.

DeCastro and Hosley went right about where I picked them. so like any real draft there were great picks, horrible picks and solid picks.

all in all I'd give myself a C+/B- type of grade.
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1-13 (13): Arizona (TheReverend) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa - went to Lions 10 picks later

3-18 (82): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma - went to Cards in the 3rd round #80, ding ding

4-17 (115): Arizona (TheReverend) - Chris Rainey, RB/KR, Florida - went to Steelers in the 5th, #159

5-16 (152): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jack Crawford, DE, PSU - Raiders in 5th, #158

6-15 (187): Arizona (TheReverend) - Rishaw Johnson, G, Cal-PA - UDFA to Seattle for aforementioned character issues

7-14 (224): Arizona (TheReverend) - Derrius Brooks, CB, Western Kentucky - UDFA to Cinci with the rest of my favorite players

UDFA class
T.J. Graham, WR, NC State - Bills in the THIRD, #69
Rokevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina - Rams in the fifth, #150
Carmen Messina, ILB, New Mexico - UDFA to Detroit
Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State - went to Raiders in 7th, #230
D'Anton Lynn, CB, Penn State - too slow
Renard Williams, DT, EAstern Washington - "I have a few things lined up already" whatever that means
Levell Coppage, RB, Wisconsin-Whitewater lol talking to Packers

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Turns out my boom or bust "reach" draft did was more in tune with the actual draft than I figured and the UDFA round saw more booming than busting... so far lol. We'll see how these guys pan out but I'd be surprised if <80% aren't still playing in the NFL in 3 years and <50% as starters.
damn, you got some great value in your UDFA picks.
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1-13 (13): Arizona (TheReverend) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa - went to Lions 10 picks later

3-18 (82): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma - went to Cards in the 3rd round #80, ding ding

4-17 (115): Arizona (TheReverend) - Chris Rainey, RB/KR, Florida - went to Steelers in the 5th, #159

5-16 (152): Arizona (TheReverend) - Jack Crawford, DE, PSU - Raiders in 5th, #158

6-15 (187): Arizona (TheReverend) - Rishaw Johnson, G, Cal-PA - UDFA to Seattle for aforementioned character issues

7-14 (224): Arizona (TheReverend) - Derrius Brooks, CB, Western Kentucky - UDFA to Cinci with the rest of my favorite players

UDFA class
T.J. Graham, WR, NC State - Bills in the THIRD, #69
Rokevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina - Rams in the fifth, #150
Carmen Messina, ILB, New Mexico - UDFA to Detroit
Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State - went to Raiders in 7th, #230
D'Anton Lynn, CB, Penn State - too slow
Renard Williams, DT, EAstern Washington - "I have a few things lined up already" whatever that means
Levell Coppage, RB, Wisconsin-Whitewater lol talking to Packers

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Turns out my boom or bust "reach" draft did was more in tune with the actual draft than I figured and the UDFA round saw more booming than busting... so far lol. We'll see how these guys pan out but I'd be surprised if <80% aren't still playing in the NFL in 3 years and <50% as starters.
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1(15) DT Michael Brockers LSU (#14 to Rams)
2(38) DE Whitney Mercilus Illinois (#26 to Texans)
2(51) G Kevin Zeitler Wisconsin (#27 to Bengals)
3(77) RB Chris Polk Washington (UDFA to Eagles)
4(117) CB Leonard Johnson Iowa St. (UDFA to Buccs)
5(154) TE James Hanna Oklahoma (#186 to Cowboys)
6(178) WR Ryan Broyles Oklahoma (#54 to Lions)
6(189) LT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma (#74 to Chiefs)
6(197) SLB Kyle Wilber Wake Forest (#113 to Cowboys)
6(203) CB Trevin Wade Arizona (#245 to Browns)
7(215) TE/DE Taylor Thompson SMU (#145 to Titans)

UDFA

RB Alvester Alexander Wyoming (Undrafted)
FB Joe Martinek Rutgers (UDFA to Giants)
RB Bobby Rainey Western Kentucky (UDFA to Ravens)
DT Marcus Kuhn North Carolina St. (#229 to Giants)
S D.J. Campbell California (#216 to Panthers)
P Bryan Anger California (#70 to Jaguars)


All in all I did very well. I didnt know anything about a chronic degenerative condition with Polk, but got the team right. Leonard Johnson will be a good pro, book it. Got Great Value at the end of my draft. and got the the infamous Punter in my UDFA round.

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Old 04-30-2012, 07:27 PM   #711
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1-06 (06): Carolina (sirhcyennek81) -Luke Kuechly, ILB Boston College *(went to Car @ pick 9)
3-06 (70): Carolina (sirhcyennek81) - Billy Winn, DE, Boise State (went to Cleveland @ pick 205)
4-09 (107): Carolina (sirhcyennek81) - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas (went to Minnesota @ pick 134)
5-08 (144): Carolina (Springstein) - Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado (went to Cleveland @ pick 160)
6-10 (182): Carolina (Springstein) - Micah Pellerin, CB, Hampton (UDFA, Indi Colts)
6-38 (210): Carolina (sirhcyennek81) - Tydreke Powell, DT, North Carolina (UDFA, Vikings)
7-09 (219): Carolina (sirhcyennek81) - Eddie Pleasant, S, Oregon(UDFA, Texans)

Ouch. Lot of misses there.

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4. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU Picked by (6. Cowboys)
*Rams took - Brockers, DT at 14
28. Coby Fleener, TE/WR, Stanford (34. Colts)
*Rams took - Brian Quick, WR at 33
33. Reuben Randle, WR, LSU (63. Giants)
*Rams took - Janoris Jenkins, CB at 39
45. Jerel Worthy, DT, Mich. State (51. Packers)
*Rams took - Isaiah Pead, RB at 50
103. Travis Lewis, OLB, OK (223. Lions)
*Rams took - Trumaine Johnson, CB - 65
164. Aaron Henry, FS, Wisconsin (UDFA - Raiders)
*Rams took - Chris Givens, WR - 96
173. Tom Compton, OT, S. Dakota (193. Redskins)
*Rams took - Rokevious Watkins, OT - 150
212. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida St. (241. Packers)
*Rams took - Greg Zeurlein, K, 171
255. Ernest Owusu, DE, Cal (UDFA - Vikes)
*Rams took - Aaron Brown, LB - 209

*Rams took - Daryl Richardson, RB - 252

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Jonas Gray, RB, Notre Dame (UDFA - Dolphins)
Dustin Waldron, OT, Portland State (UDFA - Dolphins)
Ryan Van Bergen, DE, Michigan (UDFA - Panthers)
Curnelius Arnick, ILB, Tulsa
Buddy Jackson, CB/KR, Pittsburgh

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1-30 (30): San Francisco - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor......picked by Tenn @ 20.
+ 10 in value
2-30 (62): San Francisco - Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State......picked by Carolina @ 40. +22 in value
3-30 (94): San Francisco - Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State......picked by Denver @ 101. -7 in value
4-30 (128): San Francisco - Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri......picked by Miami @ 78. +50 in value
5-30 (166): San Francisco - Christian Thompson, FS, S Carolina St......picked by Baltimore @ 130. + 36 in value
6-30 (202): San Francisco - Olivier Vernon, OLB, Univ of Miami.....picked by Miami @ 72. +130 in value
7-30 (240): San Francisco - Michael Smith, RB, Utah State......picked by Tampa Bay @ 202. +38 in value

My overall +/- value on my 2012 OM Draft vs 2012 NFL Draft: +279
Olivier Vernon getting picked in the 3rd round by Miami when I picked him in the 6th, really blew my value # up!

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1(15) DT Michael Brockers LSU (#14 to Rams)
2(38) DE Whitney Mercilus Illinois (#26 to Texans)
2(51) G Kevin Zeitler Wisconsin (#27 to Bengals)

3(77) RB Chris Polk Washington (UDFA to Eagles)
4(117) CB Leonard Johnson Iowa St. (UDFA to Buccs)
5(154) TE James Hanna Oklahoma (#186 to Cowboys)
6(178) WR Ryan Broyles Oklahoma (#54 to Lions)
6(189) LT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma (#74 to Chiefs)
6(197) SLB Kyle Wilber Wake Forest (#113 to Cowboys)
6(203) CB Trevin Wade Arizona (#245 to Browns)
7(215) TE/DE Taylor Thompson SMU (#145 to Titans)

UDFA

RB Alvester Alexander Wyoming (Undrafted)
FB Joe Martinek Rutgers (UDFA to Giants)
RB Bobby Rainey Western Kentucky (UDFA to Ravens)
DT Marcus Kuhn North Carolina St. (#229 to Giants)
S D.J. Campbell California (#216 to Panthers)
P Bryan Anger California (#70 to Jaguars)


All in all I did very well. I didnt know anything about a chronic degenerative condition with Polk, but got the team right. Leonard Johnson will be a good pro, book it. Got Great Value at the end of my draft. and got the the infamous Punter in my UDFA round.
i told you before the real draft, you got great value on you 1st 3 picks.
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Denver Broncos final results:

1-25 (25): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin - Drafted by Atlanta at 55 (-30)
2-25 (57): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Mychal Kendricks, LB, Cal - Drafted by Philidelphia at 46 (+11)
3-25 (89): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple - Drafted by Baltimore at 84 (+5)
4-25 (123): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Jaye Howard, DT, Florida - Drafted by Seattle at 114 (+9)
5-02 (138): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas Drafted by Miami at 215 (-77)
7-25 (235): Denver (Zona/Shanahan) - Thomas Mayo, WR, Cal (PA) - Undrafted

UDFA: Kelvin Beachum, OG/OT, SMU - Drafted by Pittsburgh at 248
UDFA: Manase Foketi, OT, Kansas State - Hilariously returned for a final season of college
UDFA: Wayne Tribue, OG, Temple - UDFA signed by Denver
UDFA: Adrian Hamilton, DE/LB, Prarie View - UDFA signed by Buffalo
UDFA: Damon Harrison, DT, William Penn - UDFA signed by New York Jets


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This is the Tennessee Titans final draft

1-20 (20): (1-28 Green Pay Packers) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Nick Perry, DE, USC / Actual Pick Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
2-20 (52): (2-17 Sandy Vagina Chargers) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut / Actual Pick Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
3-20 (84): (3-23 Detroit Lions) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette / Actual Pick Mike Martin, DT, Michigan
4-20 (118): (5-31 Sinci Bengals) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Marvin Jones, WR, California / Actual Pick Coty Sensabaugh, CB, Clemson
5-20 (156): (UDFA Minnesota Vikings) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Quentin Saulsberry, C, Miss St / Actual Pick Taylor Thompson, DE, Southern Methodist
6-20 (192): (UDFA Carolina Panthers) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Matt Reynolds, OG, BYU / Actual Pick Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma St.
7-20 (230): (UDFA Denver Broncos) Tennessee (Mr. Peepers) - Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas / Actual Pick Scott Solomon, DE, Rice

Was pretty accurate on location of picks, but definitely not on teams. After the 3rd, round..... well lets just say my talent assessment fell off. However, everyone is on someones squad at this moment.

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