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Old 07-14-2004, 12:59 PM   #26
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Who was that goober from fresno state that won a superbowl.. played for the ravens.
Trent Dilfer...soon to be David Carr...atleast in 3-4 years...
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:01 PM   #27
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Donovan McNabb will definitely win a Super Bowl before Peyton Manning.
I think that chance has passed McNabb over. Philadelphia is done for a while. They had 3 shots in a row and couldn't grab the shot at the ring. Other teams in the NFC will have caught and surpassed Philly. McNabb doesn't have the quality to carry a team on his back like many other QB's. Namely, Elway, Montan, Young, and now Brady.

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Old 07-14-2004, 01:02 PM   #28
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Trent Dilfer...soon to be David Carr...atleast in 3-4 years...

such a memorable QB...
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:03 PM   #29
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mcnair had like 26 or 27 td passes last season.. sounds like offense to me
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:04 PM   #30
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mcnair had like 26 or 27 td passes last season.. sounds like offense to me

McNair is very good, no doubt about it, but how much does he have left? He takes a pretty good beating evey season.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:05 PM   #31
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such a memorable QB...

I just know because I'm a Fresno native...so I kinda have to keep track of the hometown "heros"
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:11 PM   #32
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I'd take Jake's attitude over Peyton's anyday!
yeah Jake certainly has a great attitude, I can'twait for this season to start.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:11 PM   #33
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delhomme actually had better playoff stats.

I wouldn't argue with him, though I'd take Brady or McNabb over him, and I suspect Vick and ... Leftwich .... and his lil bro will give him a challange. And, if Plummer can stay healthy for a year, while he may not have as many passing yards, I think Plummer might turn into a better qb. I like manning as a qb, but the fact is he doesn't make plays. His game is dependent upon his oline and his wrs. Twasnt so of Faver and Elway, and Montana could make plays all by his lonesome, and Peyton ain't in that class of competitor.
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McNair is very good, no doubt about it, but how much does he have left? He takes a pretty good beating evey season.

Well hopefully williams can put a joe thiesman on manning and he wont have any ankle left either
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delhomme actually had better playoff stats.

I wouldn't argue with him, though I'd take Brady or McNabb over him, and I suspect Vick and ... Leftwich .... and his lil bro will give him a challange. And, if Plummer can stay healthy for a year, while he may not have as many passing yards, I think Plummer might turn into a better qb. I like manning as a qb, but the fact is he doesn't make plays. His game is dependent upon his oline and his wrs. Twasnt so of Faver and Elway, and Montana could make plays all by his lonesome, and Peyton ain't in that class of competitor.
Most ridiculous post I've read all week.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:22 PM   #36
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in fact put all three mannings together like tackling dummys and let lynch wilson and williams run drills on them... the manning are jokes and dont deserve shht..
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:22 PM   #37
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Leftwich will be one to watch this season.

I'm surprised there is no love for Daunte Culpepper anywhere in this thread.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:27 PM   #38
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I'll take McNair over him as well....I also think he has a lot more left in the tank than he's being given credit for.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:28 PM   #39
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Well hopefully williams can put a joe thiesman on manning and he wont have any ankle left either
What a rediculous reaction. Wishing a carreer ending injury on someone for any reason is assinine. Perhaps you should just quit watching football all together.

You sir are a jackass.

I mean, it's not like someone told you that you had a short dick or something.
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Well hopefully williams can put a joe thiesman on manning and he wont have any ankle left either
Classy post

Anyway...What's wrong with a little self-confidence from a top notch QB? Is everyone's problem with this the fact that he thinks he's the best or the fact he said he's the best.

I want my QB exuding self-confidence it's contagious to the rest of the team. Manning's not a punk or anything he just believes in himself and his ability, what the hell is so wrong about that?

Half the QB's in the league look like deer in the headlights when their team needs them the most.

Manning and Brady are my top 2 in the league right now, although I'm dying to see Vick play a full season this year.

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I guess everyone has already forgotten the ass whipping he put on both our teams just a few short months ago.

PM is the best QB today. Maybe not next year or the year after. But for now, he is without a doubt the best.
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Daunte is tight.. however I wonder why a 6'4" 260lb man would play qb.. Daunte had 24 td passes last season 17 of them to moss
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Those guys don't fold up when you bloody their noses.

who folded up in the playoffs last year and took themselves out of the game....I believe that was McNabb.
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Anyway...What's wrong with a little self-confidence from a top notch QB? Is everyone's problem with this the fact that he thinks he's the best or the fact he said he's the best.

I want my QB exuding self-confidence it's contagious to the rest of the team. Manning's not a punk or anything he just believes in himself and his ability, what the hell is so wrong about that?
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I was wondering the same thing myself.
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If the inference is Moss makes Culpepper a better QB then I'll see the McNabb to Owens connection before making any decision.
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What a rediculous reaction. Wishing a carreer ending injury on someone for any reason is assinine. Perhaps you should just quit watching football all together.

You sir are a jackass.

I mean, it's not like someone told you that you had a short dick or something.

What ever crazyhorse, maybe you should pull your panties up.. I dont like the guy or his family.. I dont realy hope he get a season ending injury .. I just have a grudge thats all..
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If the inference is Moss makes Culpepper a better QB then I'll see the McNabb to Owens connection before making any decision.

it makes it a little easier if all you have to do is throw it up for grabs like your playing 500
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Classy post

Anyway...What's wrong with a little self-confidence from a top notch QB? Is everyone's problem with this the fact that he thinks he's the best or the fact he said he's the best.

I want my QB exuding self-confidence it's contagious to the rest of the team. Manning's not a punk or anything he just believes in himself and his ability, what the hell is so wrong about that?
It's arrogance....not "self-confidence"....This guy lost me a long time ago with his reaction to the statements made by his PK a couple of years ago in the pro-bowl ..I thought he handled that in a classless manner.

Whatever, he's not a favorite of mine by a long shot and while I'll never wish injury on him, it wouldn't bother me at all to see him get humbled a few times this season either by his throwing a lot of INTs or by his tasting the field a few times...especially when Denver plays against him.
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McNabb left it all on the field against Car. But, to be fair, I saw Peyton actually run and give himself up for a first down two years ago. I'd give them both the ok for being tough. McNabb can make plays on his own, while Manning makes better throws. But Manning isn't in the staubach, montana, elway, faver class. Unitas didn't move very well, and he was possibly the toughest I've seen.
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Donovan McNabb will definitely win a Super Bowl before Peyton Manning.



"In three NFC championship games, McNabb is 54-for-101 for 514 yards with one touchdown and five interceptions, and just nine rushes for 53 yards."


His defense is going to have to go from really good to 85 Bears type good if they are going to carry him to a ring.
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