Obama: ‘The War on Terror is Over’

[lonestar]

Obama: ‘The War on Terror is Over’
Posted on April 24, 2012 by Conservative Byte


Today, the National Journal reported that a senior State Department official has announced, “The war on terror is over.”

“Now that we have killed most of al Qaida,” the source said, “now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.”

The article itself describes the Obama administration’s new vision of foreign policy, which admits no enemies. Everyone, in this view, is a friend. Islamism, says the Obama administration, is just fine, so long as it does not openly support terrorism.

http://conservativebyte.com/2012/04/...error-is-over/

[Rigs11]

Reminds me of the rightwing mantra when they said that dems were weak on fighting terrorists.that the righties had kept the country safe...oh except for that minor 911 incident.looks like the right will not be able to use the fear mongering that we are gonna get attacked this election cycle.better come up with something else like that Obama is a mulsim communist instead.

[DenverBrit]

Lonestar: the Goebbels of the Mane.

[baja]

Good! now dismantle the TSA

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by baja

Good! now dismantle the TSA

https://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.c...eet-worthless/


TSA admits body scanners worthless.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Mission Accomplished!

[Meck77]

Great. Let's focus on the criminals pouring in from Mexico and the rest of the illegals sucking American dollars from this country!

[baja]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Great. Let's focus on the criminals pouring in from Mexico and the rest of the illegals sucking American dollars from this country!

Stay informed meathead;

Originally Posted by baja
Pew: immigration from Mexico drops to net zero



Immigration from Mexico has reached a net zero, with as many Mexicans moving back to Mexico as are entering the United States, according to the Pew Research Center’s Jeffrey Passel, a highly regarded demographer who used data from both countries.

The report released Wednesday cited several possible reasons, including, “the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and changing economic conditions in Mexico.”

The Mexican migration has been one of the largest in the nation’s history. About 12 million Mexicans have crossed the border, more than half illegally. That flow not only stopped but may have actually have begun to reverse, an equally historic shift. The report found that from 2005 to 2010, “about 1.4 million Mexicans immigrated to the United States and about 1.4 million Mexican immigrants and their U.S.-born children moved from the United States to Mexico.”

The drop is the first of any significance in more than two decades. There are 40 million immigrants in the U.S. today. Mexicans account for 58 percent of the illegal population and 30 percent of all U.S. immigrants. China is the next largest country of origin, but accounts for only 5 percent of the total number of immigrants.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election...rick.net&tsp=1

[Rohirrim]

Another American victory! Let's celebrate!






Right Wing take: If you aint' hatin', you ain't livin'.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The "war on terror" has never been anything more than a political football for the right...

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by baja

Stay informed meathead;

Originally Posted by baja
Pew: immigration from Mexico drops to net zero



Immigration from Mexico has reached a net zero, with as many Mexicans moving back to Mexico as are entering the United States, according to the Pew Research Center’s Jeffrey Passel, a highly regarded demographer who used data from both countries.

The report released Wednesday cited several possible reasons, including, “the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and changing economic conditions in Mexico.”

The Mexican migration has been one of the largest in the nation’s history. About 12 million Mexicans have crossed the border, more than half illegally. That flow not only stopped but may have actually have begun to reverse, an equally historic shift. The report found that from 2005 to 2010, “about 1.4 million Mexicans immigrated to the United States and about 1.4 million Mexican immigrants and their U.S.-born children moved from the United States to Mexico.”

The drop is the first of any significance in more than two decades. There are 40 million immigrants in the U.S. today. Mexicans account for 58 percent of the illegal population and 30 percent of all U.S. immigrants. China is the next largest country of origin, but accounts for only 5 percent of the total number of immigrants.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election...rick.net&tsp=1

Still tons of criminals coming over. This stat is more because so many states have cracked down on illegals, a lot are saying screw it lets go home. Which is good. Mexico needs to realize for their country to grow they need people to stay their and make it a better place to live. Sending your young labor away is a fool hardy plan that has set Mexico back 50 yrs.

[mhgaffney]

Immigration? You clowns can't be serious. Illegal immigration is the least of our problems.

You forget that the banksters have their own agenda. They need another crisis to implement their global plan.

Which means we are only one false flag attack away from a whole new cycle of war and counter - terrorism -- our euphemism for US state terrorism.

There never was a "war on Terrorism." It was a always a scam -- just like the logic of the Cold War was a scam.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Immigration? You clowns can't be serious. Illegal immigration is the least of our problems.

You forget that the banksters have their own agenda. They need another crisis to implement their global plan.

Which means we are only one false flag attack away from a whole new cycle of war and counter - terrorism -- our euphemism for US state terrorism.

There never was a "war on Terrorism." It was a always a scam -- just like the logic of the Cold War was a scam.

What do you think the chances are that Israel bombs Iran this year?

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

What do you think the chances are that Israel bombs Iran this year?

We've been a few months away for years now. It's about time it actually happens so he can claim he told us so.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Reminds me of the rightwing mantra when they said that dems were weak on fighting terrorists.that the righties had kept the country safe...oh except for that minor 911 incident.looks like the right will not be able to use the fear mongering that we are gonna get attacked this election cycle.better come up with something else like that Obama is a mulsim communist instead.

How about Marxist-leaning liberation theologist?

[Bob]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Lonestar: the Goebbels of the Mane.

Goebbels was a national socialist, so in all fairness that term might more aptly describe LA.

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by Bob

Goebbels was a national socialist, so in all fairness that term might more aptly describe LA.

My guess would be it's in response to the threat title which attributes the statement of an unknown source to Obama.

[cutthemdown]

THE WAR ON TERROR IS OVER!

translation.

My date for our withdraw from Afghanistan is working. I merely said Taliban a political party, they aren't terrorists. We can negotiate with them. Even though they have carried out suicide attacks and terrorized their own people. Whatever. He's the President and ran on a platform of ending the wars. America will always spin it like we won but this is one of the biggest reaches yet. Oh and he forget the P.S Get ready for me to bomb Syria because once my European masters deems it so i will unleash 327 cruise missiles, a few thousand sorties, and parachute arms to the rebels.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by Bob

Goebbels was a national socialist, so in all fairness that term might more aptly describe LA.

Goebbels was a Facist.

National Socialist? Nah, that was the 'cover' they used to sneak into power.

Goebbels=propaganda and lies.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by That One Guy

My guess would be it's in response to the threat title which attributes the statement of an unknown source to Obama.

Exactly!! Not the first time....and won't be the last that someone does that here.

[Arkie]

The terrorists won the war if we don't reverse all these police state laws that compromise freedom for security.

[mhgaffney]

Not so fast!

Looks like another war is just a shot away.
MHG

APRIL 24, 2012

The USS Enterprise as Bait

A Persian Gulf of Tonkin in the Making?

by JOHN LaFORGE

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/...in-the-making/

The aircraft carrier Enterprise has moved into the Persian Gulf, although it’s an antique, slow-moving target and a potential lightening rod for war on Iran. As a retired Navy man told me last month, “A couple of torpedoes would stagger the thing, and then you’ve got the Alamo, the Maine, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin and 9/11 all over again,” he said, “with Iran in the crosshairs.”

Enterprise needlessly joins the strike group of the 100,000-ton carrier Lincoln with its crew of 3,200 already in the Gulf. TV-Novosti reported April 10 that in March President Obama sent his second amphibious assault group to the Gulf. Those gun boats include a nuclear submarine, a Marine helicopter squadron and more than 2,000 Marines.

At 51, Enterprise is the oldest ship in the Navy, having seen action since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. From the bombing of Laos in 1973 and the 1986 bombing of Libya, to the 800,000 pounds of munitions it fired into Afghanistan in 2001, Enterprise has helped maintain a string of atrocity producing situations that has no end in sight.

Set for retirement and decommissioning this fall, Enterprise’s Gulf deployment is its last. But it has no purpose whatsoever as a war machine when 11 newer and more sophisticated carriers are available. Indeed Enterprise is a hugely expensive liability, a deadly heap of hazardous scrap. Its fiercely radioactive reactors and waste fuel require dangerous and costly removal and long-term isolation from the ecosphere as nuclear waste material.

So Enterprise, the first ever nuclear-powered carrier, parades through the Gulf with lots of gunpowder. Its “strike group 12” consists of: Carrier Air Wing 1; the guided-missile cruiser Vicksburg; and Destroyer Squadron 2, comprising guided-missile destroyers Nitze, Porter and James E. Williams. Enterprise is 1,123 feet long, weighs 94,000 tons, has 8 propulsion reactors, four 35-ton rudders, two gyms, a crew of at least 3,100, a television station and—no doubt demonstrating a free press— a daily paper.

The government knows its loss at sea would be cheaper than retirement, and if it can scare the country into yet another shooting war, our munitions makers and weapons merchants continue swimming in billions of tax dollars defending freedom and peace. In January, when Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta first said he would send Enterprise to the Gulf “to send a direct message to Iran,” the price of gas shot up and stayed up. You’d almost think the oil giants like war. The privatized DoD contractor corporations certainly do.

To get public opinion and NATO behind war on Iran, the war party needs to both sideline our Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan Syndromes and to flabbergast Russia, China and India. How better than to make it look as if Iran started it? Deployment of theEnterprise is hair-raising in the context of previous “false flag” provocations in the region. Like the Lavon Affair before it, Israel actually attacked the U.S. spy ship Liberty June 8, 1967 — using unmarked jet fighters and torpedoes — initially blaming Egypt in an attempt to draw Washington into the war. Israel later claimed it attacked what it thought was an Egyptian ship, yet no one was charged or disciplined. Ward Boston, the U.S. Navy Senior Counsel for the Court of Inquiry, says in a 2002 affidavit, “Both [lead investigator] Admiral [Isaac] Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 sailors and injured 172, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.”

Today the Enterprise has nothing to do but act like the greasiest sitting duck in history. No one should believe that Iran is dumb enough to take the bait.

John LaForge is on the staff of Nukewatch, a nuclear watchdog and anti-war group in Wisconsin, and edits its Quarterly.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Arkie

The terrorists won the war if we don't reverse all these police state laws that compromise freedom for security.

Actually the terrorists are in charge.

[baja]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Still tons of criminals coming over. This stat is more because so many states have cracked down on illegals, a lot are saying screw it lets go home. Which is good. Mexico needs to realize for their country to grow they need people to stay their and make it a better place to live. Sending your young labor away is a fool hardy plan that has set Mexico back 50 yrs.

No it's because there are no jobs in the US at least not like a few years ago, double that with a thriving economy in much of Mexico very little debt and it allows people to come home. A lot of young well trained people are returning to Mexico no just manual labor folks. I really don't have a dog in this hunt but Mexico's future looks bright.

[orinjkrush]

amurikans are still the most terrorized peoples of the earth.

just mention H1N1 or campus alertnet or Dow dropping or whatever and watch the mice scream and run for cover. i.e. Capitol workers and anthrax mail.

so, i dont think we won.