Would you approve trading a 2nd round pick to the Panthers in exchange for RB Jonathan Stewart?

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by BroncoBen

The Draft is suppose to be deep at RB this year, heck look at Arian Foster from the Texans he was a 'Undrafted' running back.

I would rather the Broncos use a late round draft pick and get someone younger with fresher legs than trading for running back.

I'm not a fan of this logic.

Think about it. How many 4th round and later and undrafted RBs have been signed by NFL teams in the last 5 years? Well over 100. How many have become great NFL running backs? One? Two?

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I'm not a fan of this logic.

Think about it. How many 4th round and later and undrafted RBs have been signed by NFL teams in the last 5 years? Well over 100. How many have become great NFL running backs? One? Two?

Well but we did it 3 or 4 times back about 10-15 years ago, so...we still can do it nowadays. Right? Right?

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Well but we did it 3 or 4 times back about 10-15 years ago, so...we still can do it nowadays. Right? Right?

Why we are at it we should find another UDFA WR like Rod Smith.

[Bronco Rob]

Not so fast!


Xanders: Broncos optimistic about RB Moreno

April 02, 2012 3:52 p.m. - by Andrew Mason


Knowshon Moreno, a 2009 first-round pick, was a disappointment before tearing his ACL at Kansas City last November. However, GM Brian Xanders said the team is optimistic about where he'll fit in a Peyton Manning-led offense. "He created an interesting role for himself on third-down plays," Xanders told KKFN-FM 104.3 in Denver. "He's very reliable in pass protection

[cmhargrove]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Not so fast!


Xanders: Broncos optimistic about RB Moreno

April 02, 2012 3:52 p.m. - by Andrew Mason


Knowshon Moreno, a 2009 first-round pick, was a disappointment before tearing his ACL at Kansas City last November. However, GM Brian Xanders said the team is optimistic about where he'll fit in a Peyton Manning-led offense. "He created an interesting role for himself on third-down plays," Xanders told KKFN-FM 104.3 in Denver. "He's very reliable in pass protection

I guess Xanders and Moreno have been drinking buddies this offseason.

Here's to hoping Moreno has a career season. If he is able to catch passes in the open field, and not have break through the line, he might be a real asset.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

I guess Xanders and Moreno have been drinking buddies this offseason.

Here's to hoping Moreno has a career season. If he is able to catch passes in the open field, and not have break through the line, he might be a real asset.

Have a career year and be trade bait?

[Lycan]

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Not so fast!


Xanders: Broncos optimistic about RB Moreno

April 02, 2012 3:52 p.m. - by Andrew Mason


Knowshon Moreno, a 2009 first-round pick, was a disappointment before tearing his ACL at Kansas City last November. However, GM Brian Xanders said the team is optimistic about where he'll fit in a Peyton Manning-led offense. "He created an interesting role for himself on third-down plays," Xanders told KKFN-FM 104.3 in Denver. "He's very reliable in pass protection

Was this a pun on Moreno's lack of speed?

If so, nice one.

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

I guess Xanders and Moreno have been drinking buddies this offseason.

Here's to hoping Moreno has a career season. If he is able to catch passes in the open field, and not have break through the line, he might be a real asset.

I still like Moreno a lot as a 3rd down back. With Manning I think he will be set for a big year. Plus, if he stays healthy, he's always due for a good game those two times we play the Chiefs.

[Beantown Bronco]

Moreno's in the last year of his contract. Logic (and pretty much all of NFL history) dictates that he's going to have the best year of his career.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Moreno's in the last year of his contract. Logic (and pretty much all of NFL history) dictates that he's going to have the best year of his career.

Moreno signed a 5 year deal in 2009, so he still has two seasons left on his rookie contract.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Moreno's in the last year of his contract. Logic (and pretty much all of NFL history) dictates that he's going to have the best year of his career.

yep. If the Broncos are going to retain Moreno, this is his year to show the team what he's got.

I really want the Broncos to bring in another RB either via the draft or a trade. I love the potential of a young drafted RB but if the Broncos can pull a trade for Stewart for say a 4th round pick then do it.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Moreno signed a 5 year deal in 2009, so he still has two seasons left on his rookie contract.

Yup, you're right. I misread his contract. He's got a club option that the Broncos can exercise if they want for a 6th season. Thought the option was for the 5th season. Kind of surprised a first round RB would potentially tie himself down for that long for such relatively small money.

[BroncoBen]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Yup, you're right. I misread his contract. He's got a club option that the Broncos can exercise if they want for a 6th season. Thought the option was for the 5th season. Kind of surprised a first round RB would potentially tie himself down for that long for such relatively small money.

Isn't the average a running back plays in the NFL like 4 years...? I've heard nothing on how Moreno is doing on his rehab.. he could be done for all we know.

[broncswin]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Yup, you're right. I misread his contract. He's got a club option that the Broncos can exercise if they want for a 6th season. Thought the option was for the 5th season. Kind of surprised a first round RB would potentially tie himself down for that long for such relatively small money.

Even he knows he Sucks balls

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by BroncoBen

Isn't the average a running back plays in the NFL like 4 years...?

Maybe for ALL RBs grouped together (including all 4th-7th rounders, undrafted guys, camp fodder, etc). But if you're only talking first round picks, I'm guessing that number is higher. It's a pretty big anomaly for a first round RB to wash out of the league in less than 4 years.

Originally Posted by BroncoBen

I've heard nothing on how Moreno is doing on his rehab.. he could be done for all we know.

No way. If he was done, he'd have been cut by now. He's given them enough other excuses to cut him outright with his off the field exploits and they haven't done it.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by broncswin

Even he knows he Sucks balls

C'mon now. He's not THAT bad. In just over 2 seasons worth of actual games, he's got 2,600 all purpose yards and 18 TDs, running behind an OLine that everyone here has said was among the worst in NFL history in run blocking. In reality, how many guys on our current roster have been more productive?

[alkemical]

I just think Moreneo has Pandis.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

C'mon now. He's not THAT bad. In just over 2 seasons worth of actual games, he's got 2,600 all purpose yards and 18 TDs, running behind an OLine that everyone here has said was among the worst in NFL history in run blocking. In reality, how many guys on our current roster have been more productive?

Dude he got out played by a 30 year old we just picked up that offseason. He isn't that good and if it comes down to him or a second round pick for Stewart I would trade for Stewart everytime.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Dude he got out played by a 30 year old we just picked up that offseason.

Moreno was hurt all year and only had one game with more than 8 carries. It's not really a fair comparison IMO. McGahee obviously had a career resurgence last year with a style of offense that really benefitted him.

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He isn't that good and if it comes down to him or a second round pick for Williams I would trade for Williams everytime.

All I was doing was rebutting the "suck balls" comment by providing hard data. It's not like I'm calling him all pro or even great. The guy's shown that when he's healthy, he can produce. And he's basically playing for the league minimum at this point, so there's no risk.

Williams who? Do you mean Stewart? Because nobody's been a bigger proponent of bringing him in than me.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Moreno was hurt all year and only had one game with more than 8 carries. It's not really a fair comparison IMO. McGahee obviously had a career resurgence last year with a style of offense that really benefitted him.



All I was doing was rebutting the "suck balls" comment by providing hard data. It's not like I'm calling him all pro or even great. The guy's shown that when he's healthy, he can produce. And he's basically playing for the league minimum at this point, so there's no risk.

Williams who? Do you mean Stewart? Because nobody's been a bigger proponent of bringing him in than me.

See that's how much I think of Moreno I'm willing to trade for some guy named Williams and I don't even know he is

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Moreno was hurt all year and only had one game with more than 8 carries. It's not really a fair comparison IMO. McGahee obviously had a career resurgence last year with a style of offense that really benefitted him.



All I was doing was rebutting the "suck balls" comment by providing hard data. It's not like I'm calling him all pro or even great. The guy's shown that when he's healthy, he can produce. And he's basically playing for the league minimum at this point, so there's no risk.

Williams who? Do you mean Stewart? Because nobody's been a bigger proponent of bringing him in than me.

Moreno makes more sense in a Manning scheme. But he doesn't make any sense as a primary back on a team serious about running the ball. He's either a receiving back on a pass-happy team, or a 3rd down back on a more balanced offense.

McGahee did well last year, but 31 is old, and he wasn't exactly durable last year as it was. If the team is serous about running the ball, it will pick up quality young legs. And I think for a second rounder, you're more likely to see better production out of Stewart than a run-of-the-mill late 2nd round draft pick.

[Beantown Bronco]

No disagreement here. I'm all in favor of a three headed attack of McGahee, Stewart and Moreno.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

No disagreement here. I'm all in favor of a three headed attack of McGahee, Stewart and Moreno.

Yeah, that's my wish. But my prediction is that they use their early picks on other needs and maybe spend a late-rounder on RB... because at the end of the day, they know we'll be airing it out.

[yerner]

Why is this still an option. Didn't they trade Mike Goodson last week and say they expect Tolbert to play fullback? I don't think Stewart is going anywhere.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by yerner

Why is this still an option. Didn't they trade Mike Goodson last week and say they expect Tolbert to play fullback? I don't think Stewart is going anywhere.

The Panthers announced last week that they were listening to offers for Stewart.