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View Poll Results: Would you approve trading a 2nd round pick to the Panthers in exchange for RB Jonathan Stewart?
YES 41 23.16%
NO 124 70.06%
Thank Goodness This Isn't Another Manning/Tebow Thread. 12 6.78%
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:59 AM   #26
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From reports we are only offering a third and another late round pick. I doubt we offer more.

After they signed Tolbert?
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:02 AM   #27
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I think a 3rd and a 5th is probably what it's going to take.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:07 AM   #28
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Some recent 2nd round picks by the Denver Broncos


• Rahim Moore
• Zane Beadles
• Alphonso Smith
• Darcel McBath
• Richard Quinn
• Tim Crowder
• Tatum Bell
• Terry Pierce



I see a bright future ahead of us.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:13 AM   #29
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I wouldn't offer a lot for a soon to be free agent. A 3rd rounder would be the most I would offer at this point.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:26 AM   #30
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Some recent 2nd round picks by the Denver Broncos

• Rahim Moore
• Zane Beadles
• Alphonso Smith
• Darcel McBath
• Richard Quinn
• Tim Crowder
• Tatum Bell
• Terry Pierce

Seriously, this.

Just goes to show how people really over-value draft picks. Is there ANYONE on that list that people would rather have than Stewart?

Having said that, it's not going to take a 2nd rounder to nab him. We'll get him for the 3rd and some other late pick.....or future late pick.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:30 AM   #31
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I said no because this year's crop if new RB's looks really promising. We have our pick of lots of talented bruisers, speedsters, and receiving backs. This years draft has a lot to offer in the running back group. Just draft a kid somewhere in round 2-4 and let's get one that we can run into the ground for the next 5 years.
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Absolutely.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:02 PM   #33
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Seriously, this.

Just goes to show how people really over-value draft picks. Is there ANYONE on that list that people would rather have than Stewart?

Having said that, it's not going to take a 2nd rounder to nab him. We'll get him for the 3rd and some other late pick.....or future late pick.

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Old 03-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #34
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I'd be ok with it, but I'd prefer to just draft Chris Polk there.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:37 PM   #35
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no. I'd rather the Broncos draft a young RB than spend a 2 on Stewart. I know peeps will say "well the Broncos have sucked in the past drafts so just trade the 2 for Stewart..." the thing is that past draft success or lack of success does not determine future success.

Now if the Broncos can get Stewart for a 4th, then yes, go for it. But with the Broncos needs on defense, I'd rather they attempt to draft some young defensive talent.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:48 PM   #36
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Famous second round picks:

DeMeco Ryan
Devin Hester
Marcus McNeill
Tiki Barber
Bob Sanders
Osi Umenyiora
Amani Toomer
Michael Strahan
Drew Brees
Matt Forte
Ray Rice
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:07 PM   #37
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Carolina won't be motivated to trade Stewart for a moderate-to-low haul because Hurney knows the Panthers will likely receive a compensatory draft pick — perhaps as high as a third-round selection — if Stewart becomes a free agent next offseason and signs elsewhere. We hear offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski is intrigued by the idea of having so many different options at running back, and the Panthers would be content to head into the season with the group of backs they have now.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/story/permalink/32054
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Carolina won't be motivated to trade Stewart for a moderate-to-low haul because Hurney knows the Panthers will likely receive a compensatory draft pick — perhaps as high as a third-round selection — if Stewart becomes a free agent next offseason and signs elsewhere. We hear offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski is intrigued by the idea of having so many different options at running back, and the Panthers would be content to head into the season with the group of backs they have now.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/story/permalink/32054
ok, so all we need is for one of these running backs to start complaining to force a trade. Time for everyone to start some bad rumours
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I said yes. But that is with the belief he would sign an extension for another 3 seasons.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:36 PM   #40
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Famous second round picks:

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Drew Brees
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What no rahim moore, alphonso smith, tim crowder?
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:36 PM   #41
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Forte instead, please.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #42
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We are in full "win now" mode, so I don't see a problem with a move like that. Assuming we could work out terms with him to assure he was with us for a while. He's a talented back, and doesn't have the bust potential or learning curve of a draft pick. In other words he does more in the short-term to help us win a Super Bowl, and since we've gone the Manning route, that makes more sense for us.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:08 PM   #43
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After they signed Tolbert?
Yes. As another poster said Forte has more value then Williams and I don't see him going for a first rounder. Maybe a second this year and a third next year. The value on RBs is pretty low right now.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:10 PM   #44
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Yes Stewart is a game changer, given a chance to be in a feature role he could be a top 5 back. Size, speed, strength, smarts.
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We are in full "win now" mode, so I don't see a problem with a move like that. Assuming we could work out terms with him to assure he was with us for a while. He's a talented back, and doesn't have the bust potential or learning curve of a draft pick. In other words he does more in the short-term to help us win a Super Bowl, and since we've gone the Manning route, that makes more sense for us.
Agree. At this point, the team needs to get as many proven "plug and play" guys and as much quality depth as they can. With Stewart you get that, plus he's young. To me, this is a superior alternative to whatever nickle defensive back/special teams player or project DT you will get with a 3rd rounder.
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We have a pretty good track record for drafting RB's in the second round that come out of the University of Miami.
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We have a pretty good track record for drafting RB's in the second round that come out of the University of Miami.
I assume you are referring to Clinton Portis who was drafted a decade ago by a completely different FO? Yeah that means something.
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I assume you are referring to Clinton Portis who was drafted a decade ago by a completely different FO? Yeah that means something.
That would be a yes and by "we", I mean the Broncos. Also, I mean that I'd like to get Lamar Miller.
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We are in full "win now" mode, so I don't see a problem with a move like that. Assuming we could work out terms with him to assure he was with us for a while. He's a talented back, and doesn't have the bust potential or learning curve of a draft pick. In other words he does more in the short-term to help us win a Super Bowl, and since we've gone the Manning route, that makes more sense for us.
Yeah I'd say if you can get known talent for draft picks at this point you take it (as long as its a position of need)

Rolling the dice on a draft and waiting for a year or two to see how they develop isn't something we should be wasting the 2-3 year window on.
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Yeah I'd say if you can get known talent for draft picks at this point you take it (as long as its a position of need)

Rolling the dice on a draft and waiting for a year or two to see how they develop isn't something we should be wasting the 2-3 year window on.
I'd rather trade 2nd rounder for DT vs a RB though
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