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Old 03-17-2012, 10:13 AM   #4826
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Valid points but compelling argument they have. The fact no one knew of them and Manning stalled out when he reportedly close to a deal, that worries me.
It is worrisome that it's the niners. But I think the media assumed a decision sooner than manning was assuming a decision. This is manning. The most prepared and thorough player in the nfl. He's articulate and studies/breakdown everything. A long time for a decision was what I expected last week. There were 12 teams that contacted him. The niners were one of those 12. It's not like manning just found out they we're interested. Niners just kept it shady for Alex smiths sake. I don't see them putting up 90 million at all. Now If manning takes far less to play for them thats another story.

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:19 AM   #4827
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My money is on San Francisco, because that lets him do it all over again with Smith.

2d place is Denver, since he can go nuts with Tebow in a year or two.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:34 AM   #4828
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Broncos are going to lose out to San Fran. Elway screwed the whole FA pooch by swinging and missing at manning. Looks like he may have totally screwed the whole offseason.
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Broncos are going to lose out to San Fran. Elway screwed the whole FA pooch by swinging and missing at manning. Looks like he may have totally screwed the whole offseason.
So who should they have over paid for?
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Bowlen should go recruit some worthwhile FO folks. Maybe fly out to Baltimore to recruit Ozzie.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:39 AM   #4831
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Bowlen should go recruit some worthwhile FO folks. Maybe fly out to Baltimore to recruit Ozzie.
Why so they can come in and not over pay like right now!

But not addressing DT and Bunkley making visits is a valid concern.

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:48 AM   #4832
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Why so they can come in and not over pay like right now!

But not addressing DT and Bunkley making visits is a valid concern.
They need to sign Bunkley BEFORE the NO visit. If they let him slip they are
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:48 AM   #4833
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So who should they have over paid for?
who gives a ****? they are like 36 million under the cap i dont care who they overpay for, just pay for someone to come in and create depth and improve the team. instead they put all their eggs into one basket and the day they have 3 FAs come in, all the head guys flight to NC.
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who gives a ****? they are like 36 million under the cap i dont care who they overpay for, just pay for someone to come in and create depth and improve the team. instead they put all their eggs into one basket and the day they have 3 FAs come in, all the head guys flight to NC.
So overspend because you can! genius
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So who should they have over paid for?
You may be singing a different tune when Warren is cut/on IR again and backs are running for 200 yards on Vickerson and McBean.

Just saying like, not re-signing Bunkley would be criminal at this point given the crap that's left out there unless you'd like to see Shaun Rogers or Albert Haynesworth steal off another franchise.

Staying away from the early part of FA is fine for teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Giants and Packers simply because their depth players are far better than our current starters at most positions.
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Yeah valid points. Meeting in middle of overspending and not spending at all would be nice.
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So overspend because you can! genius
Both Grubbs and Nicks had they been signed would have instantly became our best interior olineman.

Finnegan at CB would have been nice. Instantly he would have been 2nd best dback on the team.

Lets see if they make some moves after we lose out on Manning. But doing nothing not my idea of using the cap space wisely. Sure we shouldnt just blow it all but i thought Broncos would go for at least 1 or 2 starting caliber guys.
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So overspend because you can! genius
They aren't even trying to spend anything for their most important centerpiece. Bunkley should not be a problem for this much cap space.
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You may be singing a different tune when Warren is cut/on IR again and backs are running for 200 yards on Vickerson and McBean.

Just saying like, not re-signing Bunkley would be criminal at this point given the crap that's left out there unless you'd like to see Shaun Rogers or Albert Haynesworth steal off another franchise.

Staying away from the early part of FA is fine for teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Giants and Packers simply because their depth players are far better than our current starters at most positions.
Agreed. DL is going to be a real problem. Bunk visiting Saints. Jones signing a 1-year deal with Seattle. We missed on the Miami DL (who I think would have been a great get). Who else is left? And we are completely tipping our hand in the draft. If we don't sign any DL players it will be obvious that is what we are looking for in the draft.
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So overspend because you can! genius
no, SPEND because you have 40 million in open cap space and a team that desperately needs improvement in a lot of areas.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:14 AM   #4841
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Also, I think we are out for Manning unless we break the bank. The 49ers jumping in changed everything. Heck, if I was Manning I would play for SF and take less $$$. I hope Elway doesn't grossly overpay trying to compensate for our lack of talent compared to SF. It's a shame we put all our eggs in one basket and if we don't get Manning we have nothing to show for the cap space we have.

And remember. Next year there is a salary cap floor. We have to spend a certain amount. So next year we will have to spend $$$ (and who knows if the FA talent will be inferior). This is turning into a mess.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:18 AM   #4842
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Agreed. DL is going to be a real problem. Bunk visiting Saints. Jones signing a 1-year deal with Seattle. We missed on the Miami DL (who I think would have been a great get). Who else is left? And we are completely tipping our hand in the draft. If we don't sign any DL players it will be obvious that is what we are looking for in the draft.
Best DL players left from Evan Silva on Twitter.

1) Kam Wimbley
2) Mark Anderson
3) Brodrick Bunkley
4) Andre Carter
5) Matt Roth
6) Aubrayo Franklin
7) Luis Castillo
8) Trevor Laws
9) Jarvis Moss
10) Tony Brown
11) Haynesworth
12) Colin Cole
13) Marcus Thomas
14) Pat Sims
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Best DL players left from Evan Silva on Twitter.

1) Kam Wimbley
2) Mark Anderson
3) Brodrick Bunkley
4) Andre Carter
5) Matt Roth
6) Aubrayo Franklin
7) Luis Castillo
8) Trevor Laws
9) Jarvis Moss
10) Tony Brown
11) Haynesworth
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13) Marcus Thomas
14) Pat Sims
Outside of Bunkley there isn't one good DT there, we shoulda had him tied up before FA but once again we refused to pay market value.
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Outside of Bunkley there isn't one good DT there, we shoulda had him tied up before FA but once again we refused to pay market value.
Agreed. Were ****ed at the DT position yet again.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:28 AM   #4845
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If the Broncos don't get Manning, I expect them to go into next season with $30 million worth of cap money unspent.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:31 AM   #4846
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If the Broncos don't get Manning, I expect them to go into next season with $30 million worth of cap money unspent.
Since they aren't forced to spend up to the cap I agree. I see Xander's pushing the "we feel good with the players we got" angle just like last year. Like thinking Ty warren will be a pro bowler and miss no games.
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Best DL players left from Evan Silva on Twitter.

1) Kam Wimbley
2) Mark Anderson
3) Brodrick Bunkley
4) Andre Carter
5) Matt Roth
6) Aubrayo Franklin
7) Luis Castillo
8) Trevor Laws
9) Jarvis Moss
10) Tony Brown
11) Haynesworth
12) Colin Cole
13) Marcus Thomas
14) Pat Sims
9) Jarvis Moss
10) Tony Brown
11) Haynesworth
12) Colin Cole
13) Marcus Thomas
14) Pat Sims

We sure know how to pick 'em.
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So overspend because you can! genius
The Bengals approve of our approach. Nice company.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:32 AM   #4849
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The Post reports that the Broncos have been cash-tight in recent years, but Bowlen, no doubt frustrated at his team winning just two playoff games in the past 13 seasons, is willing to push some money around here, dig deep there, maybe even who knows? borrow a dollar or two here and there to land Manning.

I never realised that we were struggling that much with money.
I think plenty of us have told you this the past couple of years. You're just too emotionally attached to listen.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:34 AM   #4850
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Both Grubbs and Nicks had they been signed would have instantly became our best interior olineman.

Finnegan at CB would have been nice. Instantly he would have been 2nd best dback on the team.

Lets see if they make some moves after we lose out on Manning. But doing nothing not my idea of using the cap space wisely. Sure we shouldnt just blow it all but i thought Broncos would go for at least 1 or 2 starting caliber guys.
No way Finnegan was going to play for anyone except Fisher.
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