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Old 03-16-2012, 08:45 AM   #3776
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I don't see how paying Frankenpeyton more than Tom Brady (or anyone else in the league) is 'about right'

And the injury clauses mean next to nothing to me. You can get the money back, but you can't get what you would've done with that money back. If they pull the trigger on this, they'll be completely undoing what they said their long term plan was. And that was the right plan.

If they guarantee the guy 40, which is what everyone's saying, that's at least a 20 million hit for 2 years on the cap. Protection beyond that is almost worthless, because that's the point at which we're the 2011 Colts.

Starting over. Probably with no Champ. Von starting to think about where to go on his next contract, same with DT. Doom'll be looking to get his final big contract and will shop.

This team will completely expire all at once. Right in time for a 2012 Colts style fire sale. Except assuming Peyton plays us into an early playoff exit the year before, we'll have nothing resembling Andrew Luck to console us (or attract talent)

We're playing to become the 2011 Colts in 2014. Except with more downside. The only thing that makes the risk worth it is a trophy. And Manning's good for that once every 14 years, if you give him some of the best talent in the league.

This play by our front office is the dumbest risk the franchise has ever taken.
I know all of the downsides and I agree but, at the end of the day, I'm a hopeless optimist and I have to find the positive in this because the alternative is to give a **** about another team and I just don't have it in me to quit these f'ers. And that is probably what pisses me off the most. They got me by the nuts. DAMMIT!!!

I think de plane de plane is a STRONG signal this thing gets done today or tomorrow at the latest.

My prayer is that somehow TT ends up sticking around and learning, we upgrade at C and DL, we get Tolbert and draft Turbin and DT (among others) and win the whole. ****in. thing.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:45 AM   #3777
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You'd think if he really knew the answer, he'd call the Cards first. They're the ones with the drop dead deadline this afternoon.
Maybe he did and they're not talking?
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:47 AM   #3778
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likely Bowlen and the assistant GM. Bowlen sends the primary guns to get Manning with his private jet and stays back to recruit the FA's coming in with the assistant GM.
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Who the hell is meeting with the FA that are coming in today (Abraham, Trufant and Mcclain)

If they miss out on Mcclain I will be pissed, the other two...meh
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #3779
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I don't see how paying Frankenpeyton more than Tom Brady (or anyone else in the league) is 'about right'

And the injury clauses mean next to nothing to me. You can get the money back, but you can't get what you would've done with that money back. If they pull the trigger on this, they'll be completely undoing what they said their long term plan was. And that was the right plan.

If they guarantee the guy 40, which is what everyone's saying, that's at least a 20 million hit for 2 years on the cap. Protection beyond that is almost worthless, because that's the point at which we're the 2011 Colts.

Starting over. Probably with no Champ. Von starting to think about where to go on his next contract, same with DT. Doom'll be looking to get his final big contract and will shop.

This team will completely expire all at once. Right in time for a 2012 Colts style fire sale. Except assuming Peyton plays us into an early playoff exit the year before, we'll have nothing resembling Andrew Luck to console us (or attract talent)

We're playing to become the 2011 Colts in 2014. Except with more downside. The only thing that makes the risk worth it is a trophy. And Manning's good for that once every 14 years, if you give him some of the best talent in the league.

This play by our front office is the dumbest risk the franchise has ever taken.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #3780
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Why else would anyone go into Raleigh?
Maybe to try to change his mind or give it one last shot?
Or maybe they are GIVING him the plane as an incentive?


I too think its to bring him to Denver....and start overpaying .
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #3781
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Maybe he did and they're not talking?
I doubt they'd be happy enough with him at that point to keep his confidence. Oh and leave Kolb hanging longer for Peypey's dramatic effect.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:49 AM   #3782
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You'd think if he really knew the answer, he'd call the Cards first. They're the ones with the drop dead deadline this afternoon.
The Cards are using this excuse to get rid of Kolb. "Sorry, Kevin, we haven't heard from Peyton yet so we are forced to cut you. Good luck!"
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I doubt they'd be happy enough with him at that point to keep his confidence. Oh and leave Kolb hanging longer for Peypey's dramatic effect.
It's keeping their own failure quiet.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:50 AM   #3784
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Maybe to try to change his mind or give it one last shot?
Or maybe they are GIVING him the plane as an incentive?


I too think its to bring him to Denver....and start overpaying .
Yeah, no kidding. They've bet EVERYTHING this FA season on him. Even if they feel it slipping through their fingers, this is exactly what you'd expect them to do. Or maybe they think they're going to close it.

Everything is pure speculation at this point. Especially for Klis.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:50 AM   #3785
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If PM were already a Bronco, he'd be coming here. They wouldn't be going there. Titans still major threat."


Peyton Manning is starting to get on my nerves
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:52 AM   #3786
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I don't see how paying Frankenpeyton more than Tom Brady (or anyone else in the league) is 'about right'

And the injury clauses mean next to nothing to me. You can get the money back, but you can't get what you would've done with that money back. If they pull the trigger on this, they'll be completely undoing what they said their long term plan was. And that was the right plan.

If they guarantee the guy 40, which is what everyone's saying, that's at least a 20 million hit for 2 years on the cap. Protection beyond that is almost worthless, because that's the point at which we're the 2011 Colts.

Starting over. Probably with no Champ. Von starting to think about where to go on his next contract, same with DT. Doom'll be looking to get his final big contract and will shop.

This team will completely expire all at once. Right in time for a 2012 Colts style fire sale. Except assuming Peyton plays us into an early playoff exit the year before, we'll have nothing resembling Andrew Luck to console us (or attract talent)

We're playing to become the 2011 Colts in 2014. Except with more downside. The only thing that makes the risk worth it is a trophy. And Manning's good for that once every 14 years, if you give him some of the best talent in the league.

This play by our front office is the dumbest risk the franchise has ever taken.
I dont really get the risk. I assume the broncos front office looks at the current squad and says "this is a 6-10 team"
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:52 AM   #3787
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Somebody just let me know when it's safe to fap.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:53 AM   #3788
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"Vic Lombardi ‏ @VicLombardi

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If PM were already a Bronco, he'd be coming here. They wouldn't be going there. Titans still major threat."


Peyton Manning is starting to get on my nerves
Maybe they're picking him up? Ever think of that, Vic?
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:54 AM   #3789
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Too much loyalty for Tennessee. He can't say F u to that state.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:54 AM   #3790
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:55 AM   #3791
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Titans remain leader. Source says Manning has deep respect for Elway and agreed to meet them today. Broncos know they are second.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:56 AM   #3792
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It's keeping their own failure quiet.
Nah, Arizona makes sense but everyone thinks they were a long shot as an NFC team. Once Manning tells them, it'll come out. Just like Miami.
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If you're a Denver fan this is "The Drive" for Elway. He has to pull off hail Mary today to sway Manning from Titans.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:56 AM   #3794
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Broncos traveling party includes Exec VP John Elway, HC John Fox, OC Mike McCoy, QB coach Adam Gase, GM Brian Xanders and a medical team.

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So much for a Trufant visit? I guess Del Rio has the job of interviewing him now.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:57 AM   #3795
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Titans remain leader. Source says Manning has deep respect for Elway and agreed to meet them today. Broncos know they are second.
So, this is just Manning being courteous and allowing Elway a chance to see the golden arm that won't be coming to Denver? Just a way of showing respect? Please...
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:58 AM   #3796
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the drive wasn't a hail mary so i feel very confident in Elway to get it done.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:58 AM   #3797
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Who the hell is Clay Travis?
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:58 AM   #3798
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/OPT978

lol, look at what happened to the site:


This aircraft (OPT978) is not available for public tracking per request from the owner/operator.

That's my airplane! How do I track my airplane on FlightAware?

FlightAware can provide aircraft owner/operators with secure access to their own flight data. Contact FlightAware for help.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:58 AM   #3799
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If you're a Denver fan this is "The Drive" for Elway. He has to pull off hail Mary today to sway Manning from Titans.
First of all, I think that's bull****. He hasn't worked out for anyone else, and this isn't "a meeting." It's "a workout." Which puts Denver squarely one step ahead of Tennessee.
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If he really respected Denver and we weren't in his plans he should tell us.
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