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Old 03-14-2012, 07:32 AM   #2751
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It seems to work that way so often though, a team swoops in and gets the deal done. From Peyton's perspective if we made the assumption the money was equal both places- which we dont know for sure - here's the advantages I can think of...

Broncos
Strong leadership between Elway and Fox
Flexability to mold the offense how I want (although Tennessee could offer this too, but Denver is proven to be very flexible after last year)
Intriguing WR prospects in Thomas and Decker
Decent OL and running game (they wont be 1st in NFL w/out #15 and the zone-read)
Weak division for the taking
Defense already has good pass rushers since we'll be playing with a lead
Plenty of cap room to add other players
Good city to raise the kids
Don't have an 89 year old owner who overrules his football decision-makers (Tenn's front office had no intention of pursuing Manning until Adams demanded it; he made Fisher draft Vince Young years ago).

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I went to college there
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Chris Johnson and Kenny Britt
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Not a "cold-weather" city (although Klis had facts that showed Denver wasn't one, but apparently that's one of his concerns about the Broncos)
No Tebow circus

What am I missing?
I added one.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:33 AM   #2752
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Teams getting “worn out” by Peyton chase

A league source tells PFT that some of the suitors for his services are tiring of the process.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-peyton-chase/

Glad to see it's not just the fans!
According to that article, the numbers werent where they needed to be, which is why a team like the Titans got back into the picture.

Translated, this could have been a done deal but we low balled our offer.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:48 AM   #2753
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Teams getting “worn out” by Peyton chase

A league source tells PFT that some of the suitors for his services are tiring of the process.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-peyton-chase/

Glad to see it's not just the fans!
Seriously? It's only been 5 freaking days for us at least. Anyone getting "worn out" after only 5 days of work doesn't deserve a HOF QB.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:51 AM   #2754
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According to that article, the numbers werent where they needed to be, which is why a team like the Titans got back into the picture.

Translated, this could have been a done deal but we low balled our offer.
"But Peyton just wants to compeeeeeeeete"

Yeah, right. He does want to compete but he wants his retirement payday more. Which is fine but to think otherwise is delusional. My call was that Peyton costs about 3 FA impact players, 2 if one is Mario Williams. I stand by that. Dammit.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:51 AM   #2755
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Seriously? It's only been 5 freaking days for us at least. Anyone getting "worn out" after only 5 days of work doesn't deserve a HOF QB.
Has our FO EVER outworked other teams since Shanahan left town...?
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:51 AM   #2756
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Seriously? It's only been 5 freaking days for us at least. Anyone getting "worn out" after only 5 days of work doesn't deserve a HOF QB.
I think "worn out" = Getting too expen$ive.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:53 AM   #2757
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"But Peyton just wants to compeeeeeeeete"

Yeah, right. He does want to compete but he wants his retirement payday more. Which is fine but to think otherwise is delusional. My call was that Peyton costs about 3 FA impact players, 2 if one is Mario Williams. I stand by that. Dammit.
Since the Broncos have no intention of going after FA "impact" players, it's a wash. Bowlen's new nickname: Lowball.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:59 AM   #2758
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I think "worn out" = Getting too expen$ive.
Well not only that but as an organization you really need Manning to make a decision so you can move forward. For example, maybe the Broncos (hypothetically) get involved with Flynn if Manning falls through. Can't do that until you know. Your budget is definitely impacted, and not just at the QB position, by a guy who might go 4 yrs/$90+ million.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:01 AM   #2759
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...this could have been a done deal but we low balled our offer.
I don't know that "lowball" is the right term to use here. There was a market for Manning and then Bud Adams changed it.
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I'll be really curious to see what the Broncos do if they don't get PM. Probably throw a boatload of money at Hasselbeck.
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Since the Broncos have no intention of going after FA "impact" players, it's a wash. Bowlen's new nickname: Lowball.
Bidwell.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:03 AM   #2762
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Well this really sucks. Thursdays are the worst day of the week for me.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:04 AM   #2763
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.

If it's about a good fit for his career and family, he'll play in Denver for an organization with strong leadership top to bottom and a good young talent nucleus and money to spend on key free agents.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:04 AM   #2764
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Since the Broncos have no intention of going after FA "impact" players, it's a wash. Bowlen's new nickname: Lowball.
To replace his previous nickname of 'High Ball" Ba Zing!
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For Manning to still be mulling things over, it hardly speaks to what a great offer the Broncos gave him. It is almost like he is waiting, hoping, for some other team to offer anything close or better.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:05 AM   #2766
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I think "worn out" = Getting too expen$ive.
Or it could also mean talking ballpark numbers with Peyton, feeling like you have a good idea where things sit, and then having him shop it to other teams and driving up the price repeatedly.

Suddenly what sounded good at 15 mil a year doesn't sound so great at 25, but you've put your nuts in a vise even going down this road so you soldier on no matter what the cost.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:07 AM   #2767
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.

If it's about a good fit for his career and family, he'll play in Denver for an organization with strong leadership top to bottom and a good young talent nucleus and money to spend on key free agents.
Even though his wife is from Tennessee?
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.

If it's about a good fit for his career and family, he'll play in Denver for an organization with strong leadership top to bottom and a good young talent nucleus and money to spend on key free agents.
Are there any "key" free agents left?
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.

If it's about a good fit for his career and family, he'll play in Denver for an organization with strong leadership top to bottom and a good young talent nucleus and money to spend on key free agents.
Will they spend any of it though? Outside of PM, we have only brought in Merriweather (GAG) for a look. This is a team with holes, lots and lots of holes, and while strong teams keep getting better, we stand pat. Heck one of our own key FA's Bunkley, is in danger of walking.

Whether or not they sign Manning, this team needs more help than the draft can provide, and has no depth.
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.
Call me petty, childish and vindictive but if he chooses Tennesse I'm going to hate the guy and root against him with a white hot passion.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:11 AM   #2771
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I think we'll find out what Peyton is really all about today. If it's just about the money he'll go play in Tennessee for a crazy old man who meddles with real football people and flips off fans from his owners box.

If it's about a good fit for his career and family, he'll play in Denver for an organization with strong leadership top to bottom and a good young talent nucleus and money to spend on key free agents.
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Are there any "key" free agents left?
As of this morning only 12 of the PFT "top 100" have signed.
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Call me petty, childish and vindictive but if he chooses Tennesse I'm going to hate the guy and root against him with a white hot passion.
Well, if he does sign with the Titans at least Bowlen will have a convenient excuse why the Broncos did nothing in FA. Look on the bright side.
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Even though his wife is from Tennessee?
...and they already own a home there.
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As of this morning only 12 of the PFT "top 100" have signed.
Let's set up some visits! Why don't we just call some of their agents and say, "Yeah. We're from the Broncos. We'd like to see you at Dove Valley. Could you come by today?"
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