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Old 03-13-2012, 10:02 AM   #2401
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I cant wait to cover Peyton Manning next year. ;-)

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Old 03-13-2012, 10:06 AM   #2402
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I'm all for bringing in the FA player bigger game impact for our money.
Depends on the difference in money and player. Manning will likely make around 7 times as much in one year as Tebow would make over the NEXT THREE.

That difference is likely good for at least 3-4 elite players at other positions. Possibly more depending on what positions.

And that's not even getting into signing Peyton's nursing home buddies.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:13 AM   #2403
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Is this guy legit/respected? Denver guy? I never heard of him before this whole PM ordeal.
I dont know him all that well, but it seems like 1043 and CBS 4 trust him to an extent. He has his own radio show, but other than that I dont know much about him. Sorry
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #2404
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Depends on the difference in money and player. Manning will likely make around 7 times as much in one year as Tebow would make over the NEXT THREE.

That difference is likely good for at least 3-4 elite players at other positions. Possibly more depending on what positions.

And that's not even getting into signing Peyton's nursing home buddies.
Williams is an elite player. He should be making between 15 and 20 million bucks this season. Damn near what Manning will be making and you think we can land another 2 or 3 elite players on top of that? I really would like to see what 3-4 elite players you can put together to equal what Manning will make.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:51 AM   #2405
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We will see when it is said in done. Nicks wants more then a 6 year 51 million dollar deal. That's what? A base about 8.5 per year on that deal. Johnathan Joseph signed a 5 year 48.75 million with 23.5 guaranteed. The Skins got a good deal with Barry Cofield. 6 years 36 million.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:01 AM   #2406
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Yup, as if going 10-6 with Manning and winning a playoff game would be a "failure", but going 6-10 with Tebow would somehow be a "success". Superior logic at work.
Who exactly claimed that 6-10 would be a success? You do realize Tebow was 7-4 last season, right? Why would you argue that the Manning trade isn't a failure if the team doesn't improve? 10-6, with one playoff win, would be a disaster...

You are proving to be too stupid for message boards, again...
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:10 AM   #2407
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^ Come on, jhns, you can figure this out. The oft repeated nonsense is that anything short of a Super Bowl title is a failure for the PM acquisition. My plainly obvious point is that if the team improves that's a "success".
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:11 AM   #2408
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Exactly. Approx 20 mill per season for ALL THREE. That's Peyton Manning money... less actually.

You can swap JJ with Carr... he'll probably go a little cheaper. I'm thinking 6 mill per year, keep Nicks, and Solai for Cofield (Solai will prob be 2 mill per year cheaper actually)... all will go for about 18 million. So likely we could not only fit all 3, but even fit another pro-bowl caliber starter under the umbrella of what Peyton costs.
Paul Soliai isn't all that impressive to me. I think he is solid don't get me wrong but Cofield can rush the passer so he should get paid more. Carr I like, I think he is worth the money. Still it's a lot for a number 2 CB. I like a guy like Marcus Trufant who will be cheaper.

Really if it was Cofield, JJ, and Nicks then yeah I would take them over Manning but, Soliai just doesn't wow me even more so given the fact that I think we can get a number two CB cheaper.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:14 AM   #2409
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^ Come on, jhns, you can figure this out. The oft repeated nonsense is that anything short of a Super Bowl title is a failure for the PM acquisition. My plainly obvious point is that if the team improves that's a "success".
And none of this explains the stupidity of that post.

Who said 6-10 would be a success? How is no improvement, an argument that improvement is a success?

You are an idiot.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:14 AM   #2410
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2:06 PM Omar Kelly: I have NO IDEA if this is true....we'll only know once he's signed, but I've heard the price for Manning is $65 million over 3. https://twitter.com/#!/OmarKelly/sta...18454192652288

2:00 PM TitanInsider: Hold off momentarily on Peyton-Munchak meeting. Munchak just left airport with Steve Hutchinson, says Paul Jones of Fox 17 who saw them https://twitter.com/#!/TitanInsider2...23054425591808

1:52 PM Adam Schefter: Despite speculation that Houston still could make a run at Peyton Manning, the Texans have no plans to pursue the free-agent QB. https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/...09068627951616

1:24 PM Albert Breer: Titans group that will meeting with Peyton Manning will be headed up by head coach Mike Munchak and offensive coordinator Chris Palmer. Munchak's a very good recruiter -- Big reason Hasselbeck signed. And Palmer coached Eli in New York from 2007-09. Just to clear this up (not a big deal) ... Reporting that Palmer/Munchak will meet with Titans today or tomorrow. Location not clear. https://twitter.com/#!/AlbertBreer/s...08359622815744

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:18 AM   #2411
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Two weeks ago, I thought this whole thing was a pipe-dream.

Last week, I thought maybe 1 chance in 3.

Now I think it's actually going happen. Denver's FO obviously wants him and we have more cap room than any other team in contention. He's obviously interested or he wouldn't have bothered flying out. Unless DJ or Sauced runs over him in the parking lot, I think it's going to happen before the week is out.
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We can bicker about semantics, but the point is, I've just showed you multiple examples of fitting several great players in the same $ as 1 neck-fused 36 y/o Peyton Manning.

I love him, and I won't lament the signing if it happens (which I vehemently believe it won't), but I do think there's a better approach towards building the TEAM with the $ that's apparently available to the FO.
Well it sounds like Denver is going after it's needs regardless of what Manning does so it's a good day in Denver.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:23 AM   #2413
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Now I think it's actually going happen.
I still lean that way, buy my confidence is reduced by the push Tennessee is going to make noted in my post above.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:27 AM   #2414
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I think that if Manning was really that interested in the Titans, he'd be visiting them and not vice-versa.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:35 AM   #2415
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #2416
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^ Come on, jhns, you can figure this out. The oft repeated nonsense is that anything short of a Super Bowl title is a failure for the PM acquisition. My plainly obvious point is that if the team improves that's a "success".
So you can't answer the simple questions? Does this mean you are finally starting to realize how dumb you are?
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #2417
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Change game forever? he will bounce around the league and will never amount to nothing with his weak passing game.
I'm a doubter on Tebow esp here. I think its for Tebow's FO and fans best interests if this era ends this offseason. Even if I believe Tebow's ceiling is low right now I have no idea how much better he will get over time. I think he should go to Jax start over. If it's org is willing to embrace him maybe they will back him and he'll be a rock star in FL. This FO isn't on board with him why drag it out. The Tebow fans around the country will follow him.

I will root for him to succeed he's a great guy. He just isn't what I want as a QB for the Broncos.

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:40 AM   #2418
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Just wanted to say I hate the idea of bringing in Manning.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:40 AM   #2419
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glad his analysis ended in advising he pick Denver...

but cmon... crime rate?...lol
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2:31 PM Dave Hyde: Peyton Manning and his CAA agency have played this timeline perfectly. I wondered why he was released last Wednesday when it could've been two weeks earlier and given plenty of time to make his decision before free agency. But the deadline of free agency has created a competitive feeding frenzy and deadline where Manning's going to get everyone's best deals. He must have them in hand now. The only question is if he's going to push past the 4 p.m. deadline for more money. Yes, it's also about $$$ http://www.sulia.com/channel/nfl-fre...-5656b30ddbe4/
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:15 PM   #2421
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Bud Adams Plane is headed to houston now. If i had to guess i'd say peyton manning isnt going there so they headed straight to houston to try and get mario williams

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N200BA
That plane is clearly about to land in TENN. And if you look right under it, it says the next flight that exact plane is taking is to North Carolina at 215CDT.

They said this morning Manning was being met in NC by the Titans.
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Good catch....but the plane was going from Houston to Nashville right?
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Good catch....but the plane was going from Houston to Nashville right?
Houston to Nashville, and about to take off from Nashville to Raleigh
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glad his analysis ended in advising he pick Denver...

but cmon... crime rate?...lol
I don't know....Cherry Creek has a high rate of white collar crime.
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3:27 PM Vic Lombardi: ENOUGH with the 95% thing. I'm 30% certain I'll never use percentages when quoting a source again. But the Broncos like their chances. https://twitter.com/#!/VicLombardi/s...49001036062720
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