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Old 03-09-2012, 08:05 AM   #1326
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Failed a team physical and never played again. Seems pretty clear the Drs played a huge part in that.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:09 AM   #1327
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Failed a team physical and never played again. Seems pretty clear the Drs played a huge part in that.
Nope...he was cleared by our Doctors...when we wanted to trade him to the Giants he failed their physical. It was a classless move by our FO back then and It was something Al talked about a few year back. Will try to find his interview.
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Nope...he was cleared by our Doctors...when we wanted to trade him to the Giants he failed their physical. It was a classless move by our FO back then and It was something Al talked about a few year back. Will try to find his interview.
Ha ha we knew get was ****ing done and tried to pull one over. That's why he said it was classless! The only reason he was given a clear by us was to trade him nothing more nothing less. Regardless team Drs are not as trust worthy as the surgeon that worked on Manning IMO
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Elway and Fox are at Weeden's pro day, a 29 year old QBOTF would be epic!
Carolina did draft an older QB in Weinke when I believe Fox was there in the 2nd round, but that didn't turn out so well.
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Ha ha we knew get was ****ing done and tried to pull one over. That's why he said it was classless! The only reason he was given a clear by us was to trade him nothing more nothing less. Regardless team Drs are not as trust worthy as the surgeon that worked on Manning IMO
Didn't Bunkley fail a physical in Cleveland?
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You guys get caught up in the number of times his neck was worked on. It could have been 1 or 10. If the injury is fixed its fixed. The Drs cleared him, and they take these types of injuries seriously. Don't comeback with they cleared guys with knee injuries either. Two different things.
They didn't clear him to take many hits though since they can't know how many of those he can take. If the Broncos were to sign Manning, they have to make changes to that OL if they want him to stay in one piece, which kind of goes against the thinking they are in pretty good shape right now and just need a franchise QB.
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Carolina did draft an older QB in Weinke when I believe Fox was there in the 2nd round, but that didn't turn out so well.
Weinke was drafted before Fox was the HC there. Also he was a 4th round pick.
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Didn't Bunkley fail a physical in Cleveland?
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Weinke was drafted before Fox was the HC there. Also he was a 4th round pick.
That's promising then since I don't see Weeden being much in the NFL so hopefully the Broncos pass on him.
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Yes he did.
But that was due to hypertension, bad diet and weight. (-:
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But that was due to hypertension, bad diet and weight. (-:
That's why ill take the word over a neck surgeon over a team Dr.
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That's promising then since I don't see Weeden being much in the NFL so hopefully the Broncos pass on him.
I think he will be above average back up. If reports are right we are there to talk to Manning first.
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I think he will be above average back up. If reports are right we are there to talk to Manning first.
Based on what? Weeden ever took snaps from the center and never in the shotgun? I thought that was so important, or is that only if your name is Tebow?
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Based on what? Weeden ever took snaps from the center and never in the shotgun? I thought that was so important, or is that only if your name is Tebow?
Smith didn't in college as well and he is an average to above average starter. Why can't Weeden be above average back up? Smith needed work. Tebow needed work. Weeden needs work too. Only difference I think Weeden is coming into a back up role.
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Smith didn't in college as well and he is an average to above average starter. Why can't Weeden be above average back up? Smith needed work. Tebow needed work. Weeden needs work too. Only difference I think Weeden is coming into a back up role.
Yeah, only took Smith 7 years to develop is all.
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Those cutting bait and giving up on Manning also held the number one draft pick overall with the best QB prospect in years at their disposal. If we were choosing between Manning or Luck I'd be with you, but we aren't. Sure Manning is a risk but if you're going to take a risk he's the guy to do it with...I think he might have a point to prove and have a chip on the shoulder the next couple years. I think this option also gives Elway the ability to get rid of Tebow who he is uncomfortable with and revert the offense to a normal pocket passing set.
In a "Win now" league the Colts are opting to win later. The Colts are opting to gamble on Luck rather than Manning's recovery. The Colts have more faith that a rookie is better for their team than Manning and his 4 surgeries. The Colts are opting to build their championship team through the draft, we would be well served to do the same.
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Based on what? Weeden ever took snaps from the center and never in the shotgun? I thought that was so important, or is that only if your name is Tebow?
Weeden took snaps under center and in the shotgun
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Yeah, only took Smith 7 years to develop is all.
So you see the same time table for Tebow and Weeden then? If that is the case I'm so excited to wait for Tebow to develop in another 5 or so years. Personally I think it's easier to become a OK backup vs becoming a OK starter.
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Just hard to believe that people are in any way against getting Peyton freaking Manning. For whatever reason. But the "I don't want to be the Yankees of the NFL" is the best one.

Go root for a team that will go 6-10 next year or if we send Tebows ass to Jacksonville then go with them. That way you can feel more "organic" when your new team goes 6-10. I'll be happy as a clam and enjoying life when we're 12-4 the next 3 years and competing for Super Bowls.

Oh...btw, if you would feel cheap if Manning raises the Lombardi in the Orange and Blue then you should have felt equally as cheap in '97 and '98 when we got those hired guns Gary Zimmerman, Mark Schlereth, Alfred Williams, Neil Smith, Ray Crocket, Ed McCaffrey, Howard Griffith, and Kieth Traylor to help us win those Super Bowls.
None of those guys ate up 25% of the available cap space in the offseason in which they were signed. None of those guys had experimental surgery on their necks. All of those guys worked out before they inked their deals.

We're done here.
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Ok...what are the odds of Manning signing with a team by the start of FA on monday?
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Ok...what are the odds of Manning signing with a team by the start of FA on monday?
Tuesday 2pm MT I thought was the start of FA?
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It is.
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Ok...so what are the odds of Manning signing with a team by the start of FA on tuesday?
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