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Old 03-09-2012, 07:27 AM   #1301
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You can say that about ANY quarterback. What happens I two or three years and we have a SB win? Do feel happy about that or do you think we shelved the future for the now?
If that happens then it's all worth it.

Sorry if I'm of the belief that a 36 year old Manning, coming off 4 neck surgeries, who only managed 1 superbowl win in 14 years with the Colts, is unlikely to win 1 here in Denver in the next 3 years.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:28 AM   #1302
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Piss off Bob. I would tell you to go back to chefs planet, but they like you even less over there.
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No, but it shows an inconsistency with the story of Manning coming to Denver.
Really so you don't believe Denver is going after Manning then?
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:30 AM   #1304
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Sorry Bobo...MIA has a better chance than both of us. And If it came down to us both...who would you think he pick? The no fun Pioli regime....or a FO with JE And that's without even talking about coaches....Crennel vs. Fox?? Really... uhhh bobo...I see another year of disappointment in your near future.
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If that happens then it's all worth it.

Sorry if I'm of the belief that a 36 year old Manning, coming off 4 neck surgeries, who only managed 1 superbowl win in 14 years with the Colts, is unlikely to win 1 here in Denver in the next 3 years.
Elway won zero in 14 years then when he was battered and broken the pieces all came together for him. Anything is possible.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:32 AM   #1306
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PFT keeps insinuating that Peyton might be meeting with the teams in Stillwater, and given that Elway and Fox are there today...
That is interesting. Here's a link for anybody who wants to see it for themselves...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eyton-manning/
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:35 AM   #1307
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...MIA has a better chance than both of us...
Maybe. Maybe not. As with so many details of this whole thing we just don't remotely know this to be true. It appears the Broncos are very much in this thing. It is possible that Manning is using the Broncos and others to drive up demand and thus $, but it's also possible that Elway has a legit shot.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:38 AM   #1308
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Dedhed said a day or two ago there's no chance, and was so sure that he even threw out a year ban bet on it.
That no one manned up and took the other side of.
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On the Dan Patrick show, John Lynch was advocating the idea that Manning and Tebow could co-exist; Rich Eisen (whom I think is pretty dang smart) says Denver makes the most sense the more he thinks about it (though he made a good argument for Miami as well).
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Really so you don't believe Denver is going after Manning then?
Us showing interest doesn't speak at all to him actually coming here.
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Really so you don't believe Denver is going after Manning then?
Going after him? I don't know. At least inquiring. Yes.
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Going after him? I don't know. At least inquiring. Yes.
We all know he isn't going to be cheap so even inquiring seems pretty pointless if you believe that story.
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Maybe. Maybe not. As with so many details of this whole thing we just don't remotely know this to be true. It appears the Broncos are very much in this thing. It is possible that Manning is using the Broncos and others to drive up demand and thus $, but it's also possible that Elway has a legit shot.
We don't know for sure...but look up any sport media outlet and you see Miami ranked as the most logical choice. Better team...higher draft picks to load up...and the second richest owner in the NFL. The have a better OL, if they get Wayne they would have a better WR corps, they could use the #6 pick to make that OL elite, the weather, we could go on and on. The downer with the is their dysfunctional FO.

I do agree Elway has a legit shot...the problem is that with all this information leaking out, his price tag will only get higher. That's when we will lose out. And it's the one point I keep saying when talking about Manning coming here. Plus we are not s SB contender. We have many holes...and if we spend HUGE on Manning we won't be able to fill those holes. And I don't like the idea of spending HUGE on a 36 year old QB with 4 neck surgeries. But if fully healthy...he is an upgrade.
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We all know he isn't going to be cheap so even inquiring seems pretty pointless if you believe that story.
Unless that's what the inquiry is about. An incentive-laded contract with an Elway discount on top would fit into the Broncos plan. Paying him $60/3 full guaranteed wouldn't.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:51 AM   #1315
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Elway won zero in 14 years then when he was battered and broken the pieces all came together for him. Anything is possible.
Except we don't have all the pieces and Elway didn't sit out the 96/7 season due to an injury requiring 4 neck surgeries.
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Elway and Fox are at Weeden's pro day, a 29 year old QBOTF would be epic!
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Except we don't have all the pieces and Elway didn't sit out the 96/7 season due to an injury requiring 4 neck surgeries.
You guys get caught up in the number of times his neck was worked on. It could have been 1 or 10. If the injury is fixed its fixed. The Drs cleared him, and they take these types of injuries seriously. Don't comeback with they cleared guys with knee injuries either. Two different things.
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PFT is right.........Manning will be meeting with Elway and Fox today in Stillwater.
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We don't know for sure...but look up any sport media outlet and you see Miami ranked as the most logical choice. Better team...higher draft picks to load up...and the second richest owner in the NFL. The have a better OL, if they get Wayne they would have a better WR corps, they could use the #6 pick to make that OL elite, the weather, we could go on and on. The downer with the is their dysfunctional FO.

I do agree Elway has a legit shot...the problem is that with all this information leaking out, his price tag will only get higher. That's when we will lose out. And it's the one point I keep saying when talking about Manning coming here. Plus we are not s SB contender. We have many holes...and if we spend HUGE on Manning we won't be able to fill those holes. And I don't like the idea of spending HUGE on a 36 year old QB with 4 neck surgeries. But if fully healthy...he is an upgrade.
Which team is better is clearly arguable. Denver has a number of classy veterans (Champ, Dawkins, McGahee) and very few problem children (Marshall); Denver also has a better coach and a better executive.
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What will happen to McCoy if Manning signs? Goes as a package with Tebow in a trade?
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We will sign Manning soon. Tebow will be cut on good Friday and rise three days later in Jacksonville.
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PFT is right.........Manning will be meeting with Elway and Fox today in Stillwater.
I'm sure its just so Manning can tell us we have zero chance at signning. Much easier then dealing with those darn agents!
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Fox, “Seriously, John, ya think Payton can still play?’

Elway, “Ya know, I really don’t know. We played a round of golf, and his swing sucked, but it always sucked.”

Fox, “True, it did. Have you seen him jog?”

Elway laughing, “It ****ing kills Marino. I love it.”

Xanders, “Guys, I hacked into the Colts’ medical records and downloaded all of Payton’s medical ****.”

Elway, “Jesus CHRIST, you did what?”

Xanders, “I got Payton’s medical records.”

Fox, “Brian, did it occur to you that we could get in trouble.....”

Xanders, “No worry, guys, I got all of Josh’s passwords before he could clean out his office, and I routed myself through his laptop.”

Elway and Fox look at each other. “Nice.”

Xanders, “And then I took the records down to the Rose Medical Center and had their neck surgeons look at them.”

Elway, “Jesus CHRIST!”

Xanders, “Don’t worry, Mr. Elway, I wore one of Josh’s hoodies, and I’m short.”

Elway, “Still if Goodall hears .....”

Xanders, “Mr Elway, the doctors are all Asian and barely speak English......”

Fox, “So, what’d they say? Can he play?”

Xanders, “Inconlusive ....”

Elway, “God, I hate surgeons.”

Xanders, “No, I think it was encouraging. They looked at his pre-injury x-rays and MRIs and figured he was a lawyer or accountant. They couldn’t believe he was a professional athlete.”

Fox, “I am so unsurprised.”

Xanders, “So I asked them if they’d recommend he avoid severe physical contact sports, and they said ‘absolutely.”

Elway, “****.”

Xanders, “But Mr. Elway, they said he shouldn’t have been playing a contact sport BEFORE he got injured, so they couldn’t say he was that much worse now.”

Fox, “So bottom line, we just don’t know.”

Xanders, “Yeah, I suppose his whole head could fall off.....”

Elway, “But if we got him through a training camp, we could at least name him the starter.”

Fox, “I see where you’re going, and I like it.”

Elway, “We could persuade Mr. Bowlen to trade Tim.”

Fox, “We could tell him it was best for the locker room.”

Xanders, “Look I even made a Payton fathead in a bronco uni.”

Elway, “Mr. Bowlen will like that.”

Fox, “So even if Payton’s head falls off in the first game .....”

Elway, “We’d be rid of Tim.”
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You guys get caught up in the number of times his neck was worked on. It could have been 1 or 10. If the injury is fixed its fixed. The Drs cleared him, and they take these types of injuries seriously. Don't comeback with they cleared guys with knee injuries either. Two different things.
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What will happen to McCoy if Manning signs? Goes as a package with Tebow in a trade?
He goes back to doing what he is qualified for. Nothing.
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