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Old 03-08-2012, 11:32 PM   #1201
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Peyton Manning gives us 3 years to contend and yet find a QB of the Future. Best case scenario, we can get a QB prospect going into the third year of the contract and have Manning tutor him.
And this is our issue in a Nutshell.

Teebhatas vs Teeb supporters. I think Tebow could be something special. You think he doesn't belong.

That's all it comes down to.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:33 PM   #1202
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and I want my balls licked by Jessica Alba

if you can find the button that says "super bowl contenders for the next ten years," then go ahead and hit it, but last time I checked you get one or two of those per decade.

and it's not like the Broncos were awful after Elway retired anyway. Shanahan had two losing seasons during his post Elway years, and there were two teams that had as legitimate a shot at winning the super bowl as you can have without a QB like, ohh, I don't know, Peyton Manning

Good enough to be average. Average after having a team in 5 superbowls over 13 years is awful. You get used to a certain level of excellence. You cannot say 1999-2011 was the same as 1983 to 1998.

I do think Tebow is the long term guy. He is raw and needs work. If Manning comes in for 2 or 3 seasons, and Tebow stays that's the best possible scenario in my opinion. It helps the franchise now and long term.

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Old 03-08-2012, 11:33 PM   #1203
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How can you anyone deny that a healthy Peyton Manning does not improve the entire offense?

I cannot say the same about Tebow.
And Orton gives the Broncos the best chance to win over Tebow.. and Tebow can never beat the Steelers or Philip Rivers or the Jets D etc etc etc...

And BigBen could never win more championships than Manning...
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:35 PM   #1204
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And this is our issue in a Nutshell.

Teebhatas vs Teeb supporters. I think Tebow could be something special. You think he doesn't belong.

That's all it comes down to.
I KNOW Manning is better, which is why I want him.

This is not Colt McCoy we're talking about, it is Peyton Manning.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:35 PM   #1205
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Good enough to be average. Average after having a team in 5 superbowls over 13 years is awful. You get used to a certain level of excellence. You cannot say 1999-2011 was the same as 1983 to 1998.

I do think Tebow is the long term guy. He is raw and needs work. If Manning comes in for 2 or 3 seasons, and Tebow stays that's the best possible scenario in my opinion. It helps the franchise now and long term.

I just don't see how the whole Manning/Tebow thing could work out though.
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**** the two of use if the Broncos get Manning and win a Super Bowl its party time in Downtown denver You whores
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:37 PM   #1207
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I KNOW Manning is better, which is why I want him.

This is not Colt McCoy we're talking about, it is Peyton Manning.
It's 36 year old Peyton Manning. Who still isn't fully healed and may never be. Who's won 1 title in 14 years.

You want to trade our promising 24 year old prospect for a guy who's likely got a year or two left, and won a single title in 14 years. With a team that was built just for him over many years.
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I just don't see how the whole Manning/Tebow thing could work out though.

Tebow's contract is franchise friendly for a first round QB. He wants to be the guy, but he needs polish as a passer. Manning is a great passer. The only issue I see is of personality and how the two interact. I do not see Tebow being the guy that pouts or makes fun of Manning when he does wind sprints, do you?

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It's 36 year old Peyton Manning. Who still isn't fully healed and may never be. Who's won 1 title in 14 years.

You want to trade our promising 24 year old prospect for a guy who's likely got a year or two left, and won a single title in 14 years. With a team that was built just for him over many years.
Just stop please JUST STOP
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I KNOW Manning is better, which is why I want him.

This is not Colt McCoy we're talking about, it is Peyton Manning.
Curious how the Brown's came out and said they are not interested in Manning.
Peyton wouldn't want to go where QBs go and suck anyway, but it's crazy for the Brown's not to pursue him. They must have a real aggressive plan to either get Flynn or Griffin.
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Tebow's contract is franchise friendly for a first round QB. He wants to be the guy, but he needs polish as a passer. Manning is a great passer. The only issue I see is of personality and how the two interact. I do not see Tebow being the guy that pouts or makes fun of Manning when he does wind sprints, do you?

No. I don't think it'd be Tebow. I just think if the FO was willing to go so far as to bet the farm on Manning, they'd be crazy enough to deal Tebow.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:42 PM   #1212
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Just stop please JUST STOP
You're right. Peyton Manning is really only 29 and completely healthy. No risk whatsoever.

You just want Tebow gone. That's all it's about.
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It's 36 year old Peyton Manning. Who still isn't fully healed and may never be. Who's won 1 title in 14 years.

You want to trade our promising 24 year old prospect for a guy who's likely got a year or two left, and won a single title in 14 years. With a team that was built just for him over many years.
John Elway was 38 when he retired.

He played 14 seasons before getting one...

Elway rteh suxorz!
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John Elway was 38 when he retired.

He played 14 seasons before getting one...

Elway rteh suxorz!
Elway played in a different era though... I wonder if he could survive that long in this era especially the way he played... Manning also doesn't have Elway's mobility nor did Elway have Manning's injury history.

I wonder if it is even wise for Manning TO play in this era with his neck issues and lack of mobility...
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You're right. Peyton Manning is really only 29 and completely healthy. No risk whatsoever.

You just want Tebow gone. That's all it's about.
Please Man just stop go to sleep or look for a girl to **** or something
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John Elway was 38 when he retired.

He played 14 seasons before getting one...

Elway rteh suxorz!

Elway never had four neck surgeries in a single year for the same issue. Signing Manning is a risk. With a pretty high reward ratio.

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John Elway was 38 when he retired.

He played 14 seasons before getting one...

Elway rteh suxorz!
Yeah, and he had to have his best team ever (by far) to get it done.

You couldn't have just airlifted him to another team and picked up your Lombardis wherever was most convenient.

It's a big process. The likelihood of getting it done in a year or two is pretty remote.
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Tebow's contract is franchise friendly for a first round QB. He wants to be the guy, but he needs polish as a passer. Manning is a great passer. The only issue I see is of personality and how the two interact. I do not see Tebow being the guy that pouts or makes fun of Manning when he does wind sprints, do you?

Me neither...but the Tebow circus would get annoying to Manning and the FO really fast. If they could get over that inconvenience, and Manning tutor him yes (not like Painter) then yes.

I still think the negatives outweighs the positives.
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I don't know how much Tebow can improve his game. I think Tebow is best in a school yard offense not a structured pocket offense EFX wants to run. I also doubt FO will go hog wild and add weapons like NO GB Det does imo Tebow's best chance is that scenerio not skimp on talent.
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Yeah, and he had to have his best team ever (by far) to get it done.

You couldn't have just airlifted him to another team and picked up your Lombardis wherever was most convenient.

It's a big process. The likelihood of getting it done in a year or two is pretty remote.
You made it sound horrible that he only had 1 Super Bowl win.

Answer this.

Does Peyton Manning improve this team (more then Tebow)?
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:51 PM   #1222
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You made it sound horrible that he only had 1 Super Bowl win.

Answer this.

Does Peyton Manning improve this team (more then Tebow)?
I've answered that like 6 times. Manning is a short-term improvement.

But he's not the answer.
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Me neither...but the Tebow circus would get annoying to Manning and the FO really fast. If they could get over that inconvenience, and Manning tutor him yes (not like Painter) then yes.

I still think the negatives outweighs the positives.

We'll see.

I think Manning goes to Miami or the NYJ, with Arizona being an outside possibility. Miami and Arizona have pretty good offensive pieces. Wayne will go where Peyton goes.

Denver's pass blocking leaves alot to be desired. Our starting WR's are talented, but raw. We dont appear to have the middle of the field option at TE. We also lack speed at RB.

It would be interesting to see how Denver would draft and approach FA if they do sign Manning, but his coming here has to be a fairly slim possibility.

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I've answered that like 6 times. Manning is a short-term improvement.
Thanks.

Can we stop beating a dead horse now? John Elway does not think Tebow is the answer either, which is the reason he is looking for a new QB.

We're improved short term 2-3 seasons, which is a blessing. This gives us time to continue to add talent to a young football team.
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I've answered that like 6 times. Manning is a short-term improvement.

But he's not the answer.
We all could die in 2-3 years. Better to enjoy the present than worry about the future. Besides, we'll have 2-3 years to prepare for the Manning era to be over with. We'll be fine.
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