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Old 02-05-2012, 09:39 AM   #26
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Hope all tebow supporters think 8-8 is good enough cuz this is our future if he is starting qb
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:13 AM   #27
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We need to establish home dominance, while we're still ways away from being an 8-0 team at home, I feel we can easily go 6-2 and split on the road 4-4.
If we again end up at 8-8 it cannot possibly be considered a success in anybody's sane mind...
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:26 AM   #28
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2-14 is a successful season as long as those 2 wins are against the raiders.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:25 PM   #30
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:27 PM   #31
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:39 PM   #32
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Hope all tebow supporters think 8-8 is good enough cuz this is our future if he is starting qb
It was good enough to support Shanny, Cutler, Orton, Plummer for 9 of the 10 years before Tebow was ever an option.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:04 AM   #35
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(13-3) Saints - Tough game. If we address our needs at DT, MLB, and #2 CB with league average talent though it gets a lot easier. We've got a good young #3 CB who will be better next year and we can get after the passer with Doom, Miller, and Ayers in year 2 of being a DE. Their defense will not do well against our running attack. We could really turn the tables here if we steal Carl Nicks away, significantly weakening their OL while getting a big upgrade for ours.

(12-4) Steelers - Beat 'em in the playoffs in a game that was about three touchdowns closer than it should have been. In the words of Lee Flowers, Pittsburgh is a bunch of paper champions.

(10-6) Texans - If we address DT and MLB like we should be able to this off-season we have the makings of a good run defense even out of the nickel. You stop the run game you stop the Texans.

(8-8) Chargers - Scrubby team that we should have beaten twice this year if Orton wasn't such a joke. Gates is toast, Jackson is a free agent, Rivers has been exposed without his security blankets of a great running game, OL, and stud TE.

(8-8) Chokeland - Should have been a divisional rival sweep here as well if Orton didn't have the hands of a small child covered in crisco. They hired our DC who has only one year of experience as a DC. This is a less qualified hire than McDaniels. Oh, and he's the same dude who didn't show up even remotely ready for the divisional round against the Pats and got us smoke showed. Yeah. Commitment to Excrement = 2 wins.

(7-9) Chefs - They're seriously talking about KO as their starting QB. Crennel has had solid defenses and has no ability to put together a good offense. Pioli has been exposed as the Belichick lackey that he is. Not real concerned about this team turning the corner any time soon.

(4-12) Browns - Smoke show in the making here. Just not a good team at all, possibly going to change to another young QB. Not a lot of good things to even mention about this team.
(4-12) Bucs - Another layup. Tampa can't finish games. Its all the Broncos do. Like stealing candy.

Away
(13-3) Patriots - You can't fix a defense this bad overnight. They need to replace about half of their defensive starters and have already gone through their internal options with nothing to show for it. We just need a couple pieces on D to start slowing their offense down and that D can't handle a coached up, in sync, one more year more matured Broncos offense.

(12-4) Ravens - Much like the Steelers their bark is worse than their bite. Their defense is aging rapidly. No one fears Flacco. Their best receiving weapons are Boldin, who Champ can handle with minimal effort, and Torrey Smith, who Harris can run with and out muscle off the line. Its all about containing Ray Rice, if he's even still there, which of course comes down to us aggressively fixing our DT and MLB needs.

(10-6) Falcons - Overrated team that picks up wins thanks to two cupcakes in the division. Defense doesn't have what it takes to handle a physical offense. Likely losing one or two of their good defensive players in Grimes and/or Lofton. Turner is another year older, another year slower, and another year closer to physical break down.

(9-7) Bengals - Smoke and mirrors 9-7 club that we beat when KO was scrubbin' in up last year, in their house, without a healthy Doom, Champ, or Dawk and before the light came on for Miller.

(8-8) Chargers - See above on the soon to be L.A. Glitter Girls.

(8-8) Chokeland - Do they even have any chance of getting better? They're so far in the hole on draft picks now. This will be the second year in a row without a 1st rounder, despite no playoff appearances to show for it.

(7-9) Chefs - Again, see above. We handled them in their house last year. Only reason we didn't sweep is because we've had no rhythm or chemistry on offense. That will change this off-season.

(6-10) Panthers - Cam Newton has always been Tim Tebow's understudy. Now he's going to get to watch Tebow come into his house and show him how you actually win games.

I'm thinking 10-6 if the FO is even halfway competent in FA this year. If they're aggressive and make some smart moves in FA and the draft we might be talking first round byes.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:15 AM   #36
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Hope all tebow supporters think 8-8 is good enough cuz this is our future if he is starting qb
Why the hate for Elway and Fox? They brought in good talent and went 8-5 with Tebow this year. I get that they gave away the recievers, which makes it look like they want Tebow to fail, but I doubt they continue making the team worse around him.
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:55 AM   #37
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Woody Paige: Broncos face a brutal schedule in 2012


By Woody Paige - The Denver Post - Posted: 02/10/2012 01:00:00 AM MST



Ringo Starr had it rationally, if not grammatically, right. It don't come easy.

Based on their opponents' records and accomplishments, the Broncos will have the second-toughest NFL schedule in 2012.

The Giants have the hardest schedule slightly.

Both the Broncos and the Giants will play seven teams that reached the playoffs this past season. Five of those teams won their divisions.

A convincing argument could be made, sitting here in February, that the Broncos' schedule is more difficult than the Giants'. The Broncos have to play the other Super Bowl team, the Patriots in Foxborough, Mass., where the Broncos were beaten like a borrowed donkey in a second-round playoff game.

The Giants aren't scheduled to meet the Patriots again, unless it's in the Super Bowl. But, since 2005, the Super Bowl champions haven't won a playoff game the next season (0-4), and twice the Steelers didn't even get to the postseason.

The Giants' adversaries in 2012 (including home-and-home games with the Eagles, the Redskins and the Cowboys) compiled a cumulative 140-116 record in 2011. The Giants will play 11 games against teams that finished .500 or better.

The Broncos' opponents were a shade behind, with a 139-117 record overall. The Broncos' schedule also includes 11 games with teams that were at least 8-8.

It will be suggested that the Giants (9-7) compete in a stronger division the NFC East and I wouldn't disagree. But the Eagles and the Cowboys lagged at 8-8, and Mike Shanahan's Redskins crawled in at 5-11. Three of the AFC West teams the Broncos, the Chargers and the Raiders tied at 8-8, and the Chiefs, with that victory in Denver the final Sunday, were only a game back at 7-9.

Close enough.



for the rest.........http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_19933552
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:26 AM   #38
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:18 AM   #39
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The schedule will not be as tough once we're in it. You can't base a schedule off what it looks like in January. I guarantee you three of those "tough teams" are going to be worse than they look right now.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:28 AM   #40
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(13-3) Saints - Tough game. If we address our needs at DT, MLB, and #2 CB with league average talent though it gets a lot easier. We've got a good young #3 CB who will be better next year and we can get after the passer with Doom, Miller, and Ayers in year 2 of being a DE. Their defense will not do well against our running attack. We could really turn the tables here if we steal Carl Nicks away, significantly weakening their OL while getting a big upgrade for ours.

(12-4) Steelers - Beat 'em in the playoffs in a game that was about three touchdowns closer than it should have been. In the words of Lee Flowers, Pittsburgh is a bunch of paper champions.

(10-6) Texans - If we address DT and MLB like we should be able to this off-season we have the makings of a good run defense even out of the nickel. You stop the run game you stop the Texans.

(8-8) Chargers - Scrubby team that we should have beaten twice this year if Orton wasn't such a joke. Gates is toast, Jackson is a free agent, Rivers has been exposed without his security blankets of a great running game, OL, and stud TE.

(8-8) Chokeland - Should have been a divisional rival sweep here as well if Orton didn't have the hands of a small child covered in crisco. They hired our DC who has only one year of experience as a DC. This is a less qualified hire than McDaniels. Oh, and he's the same dude who didn't show up even remotely ready for the divisional round against the Pats and got us smoke showed. Yeah. Commitment to Excrement = 2 wins.

(7-9) Chefs - They're seriously talking about KO as their starting QB. Crennel has had solid defenses and has no ability to put together a good offense. Pioli has been exposed as the Belichick lackey that he is. Not real concerned about this team turning the corner any time soon.

(4-12) Browns - Smoke show in the making here. Just not a good team at all, possibly going to change to another young QB. Not a lot of good things to even mention about this team.
(4-12) Bucs - Another layup. Tampa can't finish games. Its all the Broncos do. Like stealing candy.

Away
(13-3) Patriots - You can't fix a defense this bad overnight. They need to replace about half of their defensive starters and have already gone through their internal options with nothing to show for it. We just need a couple pieces on D to start slowing their offense down and that D can't handle a coached up, in sync, one more year more matured Broncos offense.

(12-4) Ravens - Much like the Steelers their bark is worse than their bite. Their defense is aging rapidly. No one fears Flacco. Their best receiving weapons are Boldin, who Champ can handle with minimal effort, and Torrey Smith, who Harris can run with and out muscle off the line. Its all about containing Ray Rice, if he's even still there, which of course comes down to us aggressively fixing our DT and MLB needs.

(10-6) Falcons - Overrated team that picks up wins thanks to two cupcakes in the division. Defense doesn't have what it takes to handle a physical offense. Likely losing one or two of their good defensive players in Grimes and/or Lofton. Turner is another year older, another year slower, and another year closer to physical break down.

(9-7) Bengals - Smoke and mirrors 9-7 club that we beat when KO was scrubbin' in up last year, in their house, without a healthy Doom, Champ, or Dawk and before the light came on for Miller.

(8-8) Chargers - See above on the soon to be L.A. Glitter Girls.

(8-8) Chokeland - Do they even have any chance of getting better? They're so far in the hole on draft picks now. This will be the second year in a row without a 1st rounder, despite no playoff appearances to show for it.

(7-9) Chefs - Again, see above. We handled them in their house last year. Only reason we didn't sweep is because we've had no rhythm or chemistry on offense. That will change this off-season.

(6-10) Panthers - Cam Newton has always been Tim Tebow's understudy. Now he's going to get to watch Tebow come into his house and show him how you actually win games.

I'm thinking 10-6 if the FO is even halfway competent in FA this year. If they're aggressive and make some smart moves in FA and the draft we might be talking first round byes.
I like the way you think. First round-byes might border on homerism. But I'm a big fan of homerism.
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funny how they get the hardest schedules on the league every year..11 teams with an 8-8 or better record?? look at patriots schedule 2011...laughable..and yet they still couldnt beat anyone with a better than 8-8 record till Championship game..thats the definition of a cake walk..

8-8 for 2012 would mean games won against good teams...id say its not a fail
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Someone told me the Broncos are going to have the 2nd hardest schedule in 2012.

That schedule the Broncos are going play is going to be brutal. If the Broncos win 6 games that will be a good season. I guess if you want to be the best.. you have to play the the best.
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BroncoBen? i lost all train of thought after glancing at your AV.
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Nice schedule.

How the **** does an 8-8 team land 6 playoff teams in their non-divisinoal games?
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:12 AM   #46
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without looking at the actual schedule and doing this before the draft and FA. this is like flying at night in the thunderstorm clouds..

Home games include games vs.

(13-3) Saints LOSS
(12-4) Steelers LOSS
(10-6) Texans LOSS
(8-8) Chargers to close to call early in the year probably a win late not a chance
(8-8) Chokeland win
(7-9) Chefs win
(4-12) Browns win
(4-12) Bucs win



Away games include games vs.

(13-3) Patriots LOSS
(12-4) Ravens LOSS
(10-6) Falcons LOSS
(9-7) Bengals LOSS
(8-8) Chargers LOSS
(8-8) Chokeland LOSS
(7-9) Chefs LOSS
(6-10) Panthers win


Looks like 6-10 to me as it stands right this minute..

If we get some great draft picks and a couple of key FA and suffer not major injuries could be a 9-7 season..

But KC is on the rise loads of talent, new coach in crennel could be a real problem..
OAK about the same although not sure about their coaching, davis is dead so WTFK which direction this team will do.. I suspect if they allow the HC to call the plays instead of being a puppet, they could be a damned good team..

SAN loads of talent still have norv as a coach.

those are 6 of the games that are going to be tough ones.. the rest are pretty much playoff teams..
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I wouln't wright off the Saints. They're gonna lose some offensive starters, and they fired the DC after the SF loss
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Someone told me the Broncos are going to have the 2nd hardest schedule in 2012.

That schedule the Broncos are going play is going to be brutal. If the Broncos win 6 games that will be a good season. I guess if you want to be the best.. you have to play the the best.
Sorry bro, Broncs are going to buttsecks their schedule causing irreparable harm to some fools. Then everyone will talk about our easy schedule and weak division when we wait for our divisional round opponent to be chosen for us.

Division sweep incoming. Our division is full of candy asses who can't handle a real running game or an opponent with any real toughness. They're simply incapable of closing the talent gap we're creating over their old (chargers), retarded (raiders), or just plan bad (chiefs) rosters.

NFC South? Powder puffs. One good offense, no good defenses. Going to be a lot of QBs crying to Papa Goodell about Miller and Doom not understanding that no means no.

AFC North? We clowned the squealers in the playoffs, we'll do it again and the same to the **** birds. The Cleve is a magical place only brought down by the real mistake by the lake, bringing the Browns back so everyone in the area has to watch a public display of sodomy every Sunday. The Bengals lost to the Denver ORTONS last year. They shouldn't even be allowed to play in the NFL next season.

Texans? Elway relegated Kubes to irrelevance as a player, he's gonna do the same as a coach. Tebow's first career win came against the Texans too, so baby Teebs already marked out the land of steers and queers as his b****es. Then when the Texans fall apart and go 6-10 Kubes gets fired, McCoy gets a job as an HC somewhere following Tebow's Pro Bowl season, and Kubes comes home as our new OC.

Brady can't handle a pass rush and we no longer have a DC too busy sucking up to the spawn of the crypt keeper to put together a competent game plan. Del Rio will have Doom and Miller putting up their best Ike impression for Tina Brady to enjoy. Giselle will join the pack of Tebow chasers after T-Brad gets crushed so hard that Satan calls him back home to stop any further embarrassment.
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Sorry bro, Broncs are going to buttsecks their schedule causing irreparable harm to some fools. Then everyone will talk about our easy schedule and weak division when we wait for our divisional round opponent to be chosen for us.
Yeah, this is similar to when they trot out the "But they only played 3 playoff teams all year." stuff.

If you think about it, if you win your division, there's a good chance you won't play another playoff team through your whole division schedule. Then you're locked into playing an entire division in the opposite conference. And since there's only one division champ, there's another good chance you'll only play one 'playoff team' in those 4 games.

So there's a good chance you have 10 games right there where you only play one playoff team. That leaves 6 other games, where if you get 2 playoff teams out of 6, you could still easily end up with only 3 games against playoff bound teams. By the numbers, 4 playoff teams might be more likely than 3. But I'd guess 5 is probably more unlikely than either.

So when people whine about someone 'only playing 3 playoff teams all year' just ask yourself "Would playing 4 really be much different?"
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