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Old 02-03-2012, 08:06 PM   #701
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Perhaps you'd like to stand up and answer the same questions TonyR and errand have proven completely unwilling to, then?
We have answered your questions...have given you our reasoning. You don't like the answers....that's your problem not ours.

so answer this one..if Tebow has made all those plays from the pocket and passing the ball you said he made...why does Elway ALWAYS say he wants a guy that can make plays from the pocket?
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:08 PM   #702
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that is not a name change. am I getting stuck on the actual English language with you again?


its a puppet account. If you think OABB created a puppet account a year ago than that is fine with me. You have been wrong about everything and are now just a troll so I doubt anyone believes it anyways.

not that I care. Jake is good people. ask around.
Yeah right...whatever dude. but take heart, you wouldn't be the first douchebag that did it....
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:11 PM   #703
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You're the most classless person on here...first you get banned, then you create a new screen name to come in here and defend your moronic takes like "Yes, i agree with that dumbass OABB too..."

so explain this one to me then, with all your infinite wisdom...

Why, if Tebow made so many plays throwing the ball and from the pocket mind you....does Elway always say he's looking for a guy that could make plays from the pocket?

Now I don't expect anyone to take what i think as the end all of QB knowledge like you think you and your clown posse are.

But why do you suppose a hall of fame QB that has played the game at it's highest level would not be able to see what you clowns see?

Is he too a hater?

Is he a moron?

Does he not know anything about playing the QB position or what the coaching staff says they need in order for them to run a pro offense vs an above average college one?

What credentials do you have that we should take what you claim as gospel?

yes I was banned as OABB! I then travelled back in time a year to create a puppet account! I am really you from the future. I got tired of Tebow winning that.I became a reasonable poster and came back in time to kick my own loser ass.


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that is not a name change. am I getting stuck on the actual English language with you again?


its a puppet account. If you think OABB created a puppet account a year ago than that is fine with me. You have been wrong about everything and are now just a troll so I doubt anyone believes it anyways.

not that I care. Jake is good people. ask around.
If that is your story then stick with it
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:12 PM   #705
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GOOD QUESTION BRO

"Joe Montana says don't change Tim Tebow's throwing motion"


http://content.usatoday.com/communit...owing-motion/1



Elway has said that he's looking for "the big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket."
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:13 PM   #706
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We have answered your questions...have given you our reasoning. You don't like the answers....that's your problem not ours.

so answer this one..if Tebow has made all those plays from the pocket and passing the ball you said he made...why does Elway ALWAYS say he wants a guy that can make plays from the pocket?
because he wanted Tebow to get better in the pocket?
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yes I was banned as OABB! I then travelled back in time a year to create a puppet account! I am really you from the future. I got tired of Tebow winning that.I became a reasonable poster and came back in time to kick my own loser ass.


dont believe me? my penis is 2" and I jerk off to orton photos.


dont freak out as it will create a disruption in the space time continium.
Regardless dude...you're a douchebag...and everyone on here knows it...just like everyone knows Tim's got work to do
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The main question is why do you feel Tim Tebow will struggle long term and not be a long term answer at the QB position?
I thought the question was more complicated.

Throwing motion: His throwing motion is too long. (Yes, that's a legitimate concern)

Footwork: He steps too far to the outside and opens his shoulder too much, leading to inaccurate throws, mostly to the right, because he's overcompensating for his overstep to the left. My mechanical understanding is mostly coming from baseball, but it's generally the same. He opens up on one side, tends to throw it wide on the left and then overcompensates for it on the left which means short and middle passes tend to go wide left and wide right.

Indecisiveness: He has to learn to throw into windows and has to trust his pre snap reads. That's an important aspect. This concerns all three of the stated problems. To throw quick passes it requires trusting your pre snap read, good footwork, anticipation and good footwork. Tebow has, thus far, lacked all four of those things when throwing short passes.

Elite passers win in this league. He has to become one.
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Regardless dude...you're a douchebag...and everyone on here knows it...just like everyone knows Tim's got work to do
Tim has work to do? thats unusual for a raw qb with 16 starts. he must be a bust.

cool! now Im like you and not reasonable! it feels so good!
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because he wanted Tebow to get better in the pocket?
Oh...but according to your nuthugging clown buddy Reverend, Tebow already does that....

Face it...Elway's not married to your hero...and he's gonna get HIS guy...not someone left over from a previous regime. He wants a guy that doesn't need to be taught how to do it, and certainly not one that hasn't proven he can do it after 4 years in college and two in the NFL
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I thought the question was more complicated.

Throwing motion: His throwing motion is too long. (Yes, that's a legitimate concern)

Footwork: He steps too far to the outside and opens his shoulder too much, leading to inaccurate throws, mostly to the right, because he's overcompensating for his overstep to the left. My mechanical understanding is mostly coming from baseball, but it's generally the same. He opens up on one side, tends to throw it wide on the left and then overcompensates for it on the left which means short and middle passes tend to go wide left and wide right.

Indecisiveness: He has to learn to throw into windows and has to trust his pre snap reads. That's an important aspect. This concerns all three of the stated problems. To throw quick passes it requires trusting your pre snap read, good footwork, anticipation and good footwork. Tebow has, thus far, lacked all four of those things when throwing short passes.

Elite passers win in this league. He has to become one.

do you think it can not be improved with coaching and hard work?
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Tim has work to do? thats unusual for a raw qb with 16 starts. he must be a bust.

cool! now Im like you and not reasonable! it feels so good!

show me where I said he was a bust douche?

Never said he can't do it...just wondering if he can do it. But that equals hatred in your warped mind
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Oh...but according to your nuthugging clown buddy Reverend, Tebow already does that....

Face it...Elway's not married to your hero...and he's gonna get HIS guy...not someone left over from a previous regime. He wants a guy that doesn't need to be taught how to do it, and certainly not one that hasn't proven he can do it after 4 years in college and two in the NFL
I think if you fags read thereverend and myself you might not get your ass handed to you every day. Tevow is a good passer. better than you fags will admit.

therev and I know this and prove it daily. does he need to work at getting better?

yeah, no ****. all young guys do.


you fags just treat him different than every other young qb ever whixh is why you are haters. IM sorry you are too stupid to see it.
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You actually didn't answer the question... I agree with every single one of those (outside of throwing motion. that's really not a concern). Here's where it gets fun:

Do you feel that these are issues he won't correct and state why.
This is where we run into problems.

If I don't state that they are correctable or that he can overcome them, you pounce with delusional vigor.

Those are the reasons I don't think he can succeed as a passer. You think he can overcome them, I don't.

That's it. Neither of us know otherwise.
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You actually didn't answer the question... I agree with every single one of those (outside of throwing motion. that's really not a concern). Here's where it gets fun:

Do you feel that these are issues he won't correct and state why.
He answered your question..again you don't like the answer. which is why you posed the other question.

Well, he hasn't yet..after 2 years of NFL training, not to mention the off season prior to the draft where he worked on it to improve his draft stock.

His work ethic says he can, hard to believe he wouldn't put in the hours needed...but the body of work so far makes one wonder if it is something he can correct....
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show me where I said he was a bust douche?

Never said he can't do it...just wondering if he can do it. But that equals hatred in your warped mind
no. the constant hating is indeed, hating. many have doubts and dont get labelled. you have to be a class A dumbass to earn that distinction. I wonder why you have that rep from most people here? hmmmmm.

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This is where we run into problems.

If I don't state that they are correctable or that he can overcome them, you pounce with delusional vigor.

Those are the reasons I don't think he can succeed as a passer. You think he can overcome them, I don't.

That's it. Neither of us know otherwise.
if you claim something and then finish it with "that's just how I feel" you are either a scorned women or a lame poster. you havent been jumped on in this thread. just answer. therev is pretty straight foward and reasonable when you man up.

he just hates people who dont back uo accusations. pretty fair imho.
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Once again... State why.

Not exactly a staggering request, is it? I mean, I've absolutely stated why he can. I don't see what's so hard about defending and supporting your pov.
Because his shortcoming are too much to overcome.

You want him to overcome his shortcomings, so clearly no answer will satisfy you.
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I think if you fags read thereverend and myself you might not get your ass handed to you every day. Tevow is a good passer. better than you fags will admit.

therev and I know this and prove it daily. does he need to work at getting better?

yeah, no ****. all young guys do.


you fags just treat him different than every other young qb ever whixh is why you are haters. IM sorry you are too stupid to see it.

Reading you praise the virtues of Tebow is hardly enlightening....your boy struggles to complete passes that many lesser talents can complete...hopefully he will correct his issues in that area.

and we don't treat him differently, we do however call you out when you say stupid **** like Manning wouldn't improve this team, or that Tebow is a good passer. And if he was a good passer, why would we need him to improve his passing then? ...i don't care about other young QB's on other teams...If Cam Newton sucks if andy Dalton sucks...what do i care...they don't play for my team. Tebow on the other hand does. so he's under our microscope...just like every other Broncos QB before him was....even Elway, until he proved he was potentially headed to hall of fame in his third year
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Oh gtfo...

Did you or did you not claim your daughter is a better passer?
to be fair that is how most nfl scouts judge young qb's that have mechanical issues. Its in the scouts handbook.

I know it sounds like douchey hate...but its just objective football analysis.
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if you claim something and then finish it with "that's just how I feel" you are either a scorned women or a lame poster. you havent been jumped on in this thread. just answer. therev is pretty straight foward and reasonable when you man up.

he just hates people who dont back uo accusations. pretty fair imho.
Why WILL he overcome his problems. Not, now can he? How WILL he?

I backed my accusations accordingly. I stated why I don't think he will be a good quarterback. You don't like the answer, so like a three year old you continue to ask "why?" "why?"

Why? Because I don't think he can overcome those problems.
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no. the constant hating is indeed, hating. many have doubts and dont get labelled. you have to be a class A dumbass to earn that distinction. I wonder why you have that rep from most people here? hmmmmm.
the only people who think I hate Tebow is his nuthugging legionnaires...most reasonably sane people who have watched the games see the same QB I've seen struggle to throw the ball with even moderately tolerable results
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Reading you praise the virtues of Tebow is hardly enlightening....your boy struggles to complete passes that many lesser talents can complete...hopefully he will correct his issues in that area.

and we don't treat him differently, we do however call you out when you say stupid **** like Manning wouldn't improve this team, or that Tebow is a good passer. And if he was a good passer, why would we need him to improve his passing then? ...i don't care about other young QB's on other teams...If Cam Newton sucks if andy Dalton sucks...what do i care...they don't play for my team. Tebow on the other hand does. so he's under our microscope...just like every other Broncos QB before him was....even Elway, until he proved he was potentially headed to hall of fame in his third year

again. I win. I never said manning wouldnt improve this team fag. I said he would be crippled behind walton.



how many times have I proven you wrong now? jeez. can someone challenge me at least!?!?
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Here it is lmfao



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