CAM NEWTON

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by bendog

It's beyond reason.

Seriously, the passing completion has got to be upwards of 60% if the qb posittion is not a liability.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...g/seasontype/2

I remember a Favronaut telling me how much better old zipfly was than Elway based on complete percentage.

I told him I could complete 60% of passes in the NFL if that was the goal. Just depends on what kind of passes you attempt.

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I'm sitting here talking about QB's comp % in the playoffs and then reg season stats got brought into the convo.

And yet you're talking about Cassel>>>Derp!

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by bendog

Sorry. But, there's a reason as to why these two teams are still playing.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...rterbackRating

Rodgers was surprising. Rapesburger was hurt. Even Flacco was getting it done. It's interesting how Alex Smith didn't have turnovers. That killed NO in that upset.

As I said from the very beginning of this thread you will not find very many winning teams in play-off history when then QB throws for less then 50%. Hell I bet there is only a handful of teams in the history of the game to make it there with the QB with that low of numbers. Tebow is a gamer and he will improve on those numbers I have no doubt in my mind.

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

Do people really think Tebow is better than Newton...REALLY?

Yes.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

And yet you're talking about Cassel>>>Derp!

I brought up Cassel vs Flacco dumbass.

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

Yes.

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

People said the same thing when I said Tebow would hands down outplay Orton. Your little emoticon does not scare me.

Newton just had his best year as an NFL player.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

People said the same thing when I said Tebow would hands down outplay Orton. Your little emoticon does not scare me.

Newton just had his best year as an NFL player.

Most rookies do.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

I remember a Favronaut telling me how much better old zipfly was than Elway based on complete percentage.

I told him I could complete 60% of passes in the NFL if that was the goal. Just depends on what kind of passes you attempt.

Well, in 97 4 starters completed 60% and one was on the worst team in the league.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...97/passing.htm

But in 2011, all playoff starters completed over 60% but for Flacco, Dalton and Tebow, and alex smith who competed 56%. If a qb can't complete 60% in today's NFL he's a liability

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

People said the same thing when I said Tebow would hands down outplay Orton. Your little emoticon does not scare me.

Newton just had his best year as an NFL player.

Why would the emoticon scare you?

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by bendog

He's a jerk, but a really talented jerk. .

You've just described Ryan Leaf.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

As I said from the very beginning of this thread you will not find very many winning teams in play-off history when then QB throws for less then 50%. Hell I bet there is only a handful of teams in the history of the game to make it there with the QB with that low of numbers. Tebow is a gamer and he will improve on those numbers I have no doubt in my mind.

I hope you're right, but it's a long climb he's got, and it's not like he is a rookie anymore. He's been in the league two full years, and he shows no grasp of an NFL passing game. At least the idiots have shut up with the "he'll revolutionize the way the position is played in the NFL."

[MacGruder]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

Newton is Tebow...only bigger, stronger, faster and can throw a football.


Newton>Tebow

What on Earth makes you think cam is stronger than Tebow? Tebow weighs as much as Cam on a 3 inch shorter frame... I have heard countless tales about how strong Tebow is but nothing about Cam...

If Cam was anywhere near as good as Tebow as an athlete surely we would have seen Cam on the field when he was at Florida like Tebow was used to win their first championship.. but nope... he was in junior college instead...

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

Why would the emoticon scare you?

I said it doesn't, but you apparently think it's a witty retort. I see it more as a crutch used by the illiterate.

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

You've just described Ryan Leaf.

Cam Newton=Ryan Leaf?

[bendog]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

You've just described Ryan Leaf.

I can't hear you. There's an annoying buzzing sound ....

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by MacGruder

What on Earth makes you think cam is stronger than Tebow? Tebow weighs as muh as Cam on a 3 inch shorter frame... I have heard countless tales about how strong Tebow is but nothing about Cam...

If Cam was anywhere near as good as Tebow as an an athlete surely we would have seen Cam on the field when he was at Florida like Tebow was used to win their first championship.. but nope... he was in junior college instead...

Do you know why he was in junior college?

[MacGruder]

Originally Posted by bendog

I hope you're right, but it's a long climb he's got, and it's not like he is a rookie anymore. He's been in the league two full years, and he shows no grasp of an NFL passing game. At least the idiots have shut up with the "he'll revolutionize the way the position is played in the NFL."

He already has revolutionized the NFL considering he made the playoffs in a shortened season and won a playoff game against top D... not being able to grasp the NFL game...

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Most rookies do.

Are you really this dim witted?

Now you're saying that most NFL players don't improve upon their rookie seasons?

There aren't words.

[MacGruder]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

Do you know why he was in junior college?

Yes.. because John Brantley beat him out as Tebow's backup... so cam had a meltdown and got himself kicked out of school..

His dad said the same in an interview online right before he left school.. said Cam couldn't win the backup job so had to go to short bus school...

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by MacGruder

Yes.. because John Brantley beat him out as Tebow's backup... so cam had a meltdown and got himself kicked out of school..

His dad said the same in an interview online right before he left school.. said Cam couldn't win the starting job so had to go to short bus school...

I could fill a library with what you don't know about football...


Newton was Tebow's backup, that is a fact.


Newton left because he was not welcome back...after cheating on numerous tests and stealing an expensive laptop and lying about it to police.


But hey, keep telling yourself he was beaten out...


PS. It's funny you get your information from a guy that accepted money for his son's services in college....he must be telling the truth...right?

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

Are you really this dim witted?

Now you're saying that most NFL players don't improve upon their rookie seasons?

There aren't words.

You said he just had his best year in the NFL. Well it was his only year in the NFL to date so that would be correct of all ROOKIES.

[MacGruder]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

I could fill a library with what you don't know about football...


Newton was Tebow's backup, that is a fact.


Newton left because he was not welcome back...after cheating on numerous tests and stealing an expensive laptop and lying about it to police.


But hey, keep telling yourself he was beaten out...


PS. It's funny you get your information from a guy that accepted money for his son's services in college....he must be telling the truth...right?

WTF would Cam's dad lie to say his son couldn't beat out some scrub white boy in Florida's offense?

You are completely delusional here.. where is the logic in that? Everyone knew all the trouble he was in.. there was absolutely no reason to say he couldn't beat out some scrub behind Tebow so he could go to junior college..

This is why when Cam went o Auburn he wasn't even the starter there going in.. and there was NO expectation about what he would do there that season.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

I could fill a library with what you don't know about football...


Newton was Tebow's backup, that is a fact.


Newton left because he was not welcome back...after cheating on numerous tests and stealing an expensive laptop and lying about it to police.


But hey, keep telling yourself he was beaten out...


PS. It's funny you get your information from a guy that accepted money for his son's services in college....he must be telling the truth...right?

Is it possible that he doesn't know Cam went to Jr College AFTER leaving/being told to get out of Fla?

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by MacGruder

WTF would Cam's dad lie to say his son couldn't beat out some scrub white boy in Florida's offense?

You are completely delusional here.. where is the logic in that? Everyone knew all the trouble he was in.. there was absolutely no reason to say he couldn't beat out some scrub behind Tebow so he could go to junior college..

This is why when Cam went o Auburn he wasn't even the starter there going in.. and there was NO expectation about what he would do there that season.

Cam was the starter the entire time at Auburn.

You aren't getting it...FLORIDA WASN'T ALLOWING NEWTON TO CONTINUE AT FLORIDA....So he went elsewhere...he didn't want to sit out a year so he played for a small school, then the next year was the #1 recruit in the nation.

Cam went to Auburn because his daddy told him to go there because Auburn paid for him to go.

These are FACTS.

It is ALSO a fact that Newton WAS Tebow's direct backup before leaving school...