OT: Game of Thrones (official thread) (warning: some spoilers)

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Wtf... no way they can finish this all up with 1 more...

It probably doesn't hurt that George has said the exact same thing.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Wtf... no way they can finish this all up with 1 more...

^ confirmed. As is they have 7 planned:

# Title Pages Chapters Audio Earliest Release
1. A Game of Thrones 807 (704 hardcover) 77 33h 53m August 1996
2. A Clash of Kings 969 (784 hardcover) 70 37h 17m November 1998
3. A Storm of Swords 1128 (992 hardcover) 82 47h 37m August 2000
4. A Feast for Crows 976 (784 hardcover) 46 31h 10m October 2005
5. A Dance with Dragons (959 hardcover) 73 48h 56m July 2011
6. The Winds of Winter[15] (Forthcoming)
7. A Dream of Spring[16] (Forthcoming)

Keep in mind this was intended to be a TRILOGY

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

^ confirmed. As is they have 7 planned:

# Title Pages Chapters Audio Earliest Release
1. A Game of Thrones 807 (704 hardcover) 77 33h 53m August 1996
2. A Clash of Kings 969 (784 hardcover) 70 37h 17m November 1998
3. A Storm of Swords 1128 (992 hardcover) 82 47h 37m August 2000
4. A Feast for Crows 976 (784 hardcover) 46 31h 10m October 2005
5. A Dance with Dragons (959 hardcover) 73 48h 56m July 2011
6. The Winds of Winter[15] (Forthcoming)
7. A Dream of Spring[16] (Forthcoming)

Keep in mind this was intended to be a TRILOGY

I just hope he doesn't croak before its done.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I just hope he doesn't croak before its done.

"Don't worry about it. I feel fine."

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

"Don't worry about it. I feel fine."

Exactly. And Martin looks worse.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Exactly. And Martin looks worse.

I have to admit, as much as I love the guy and his work, I often wonder if he was ****ing his sister growing up or if he's a pedophile considering some of the bertstare worthy portions of the plot.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

I have to admit, as much as I love the guy and his work, I often wonder if he was ****ing his sister growing up or if he's a pedophile considering some of the bertstare worthy portions of the plot.

Possibly. I think he's also a student of history and a lot of that stuff is just how it was. It can seem excessive, but there is no Judeo-Christian ethic in his world, so the baseline is different.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Possibly. I think he's also a student of history and a lot of that stuff is just how it was. It can seem excessive, but there is no Judeo-Christian ethic in his world, so the baseline is different.

Maybe. Sort of on that note: I think Rh'llor and the red priests etc are a direct play into Christianity.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Possibly. I think he's also a student of history and a lot of that stuff is just how it was. It can seem excessive, but there is no Judeo-Christian ethic in his world, so the baseline is different.

He has stated on more than one occasion that the ages of the characters is the one thing he would change, making them a couple of years older. He said it was his historical research into Europe during the "Dark Ages" that led him to set the ages as young as he did initially. I'm in the middle of "Storm", but am going to have to start it over as I put it down 6 months ago due to work picking up and football season. End of January/February are always my best book reading months. Looking forward to getting back into them, but not sure I want to with season 2 starting up so soon (sometimes knowing what happens way down the road takes away from the enjoyment of the show). As for Rome, watch it Turd! Remember that HBO didn't cancel Deadwood because of Rome. If anything you can blame John, from Cincinnati that Milch was doing for HBO as well. HBO didn't want to pay the cast of Deadwood to hang around for 4 months waiting for Milch to get done. Rome is a must do, Turd. You won't regret it. You'll just be PO'ed again as the writer's strike killed Rome after season 2 for the same reasons Deadwood was done in. Money; in particular, the actor's salaries that HBO didn't want to pay waiting for production to start.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Dutch

He has stated on more than one occasion that the ages of the characters is the one thing he would change, making them a couple of years older. He said it was his historical research into Europe during the "Dark Ages" that led him to set the ages as young as he did initially. I'm in the middle of "Storm", but am going to have to start it over as I put it down 6 months ago due to work picking up and football season. End of January/February are always my best book reading months. Looking forward to getting back into them, but not sure I want to with season 2 starting up so soon (sometimes knowing what happens way down the road takes away from the enjoyment of the show). As for Rome, watch it Turd! Remember that HBO didn't cancel Deadwood because of Rome. If anything you can blame John, from Cincinnati that Milch was doing for HBO as well. HBO didn't want to pay the cast of Deadwood to hang around for 4 months waiting for Milch to get done. Rome is a must do, Turd. You won't regret it. You'll just be PO'ed again as the writer's strike killed Rome after season 2 for the same reasons Deadwood was done in. Money; in particular, the actor's salaries that HBO didn't want to pay waiting for production to start.

Excuse me sir, but you have an email to focus on

[Mr.Meanie]

The only thing I'm unsure about with the HBO version is Arya's age. By the time they get to Storm the actress playing Arya will be waaaay older than in the books. IMO her age is such a major part of her character arc with all the things that happen to her. I wonder if they are just going to go with it and ignore the book version of her.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Dutch

He has stated on more than one occasion that the ages of the characters is the one thing he would change, making them a couple of years older. He said it was his historical research into Europe during the "Dark Ages" that led him to set the ages as young as he did initially. I'm in the middle of "Storm", but am going to have to start it over as I put it down 6 months ago due to work picking up and football season. End of January/February are always my best book reading months. Looking forward to getting back into them, but not sure I want to with season 2 starting up so soon (sometimes knowing what happens way down the road takes away from the enjoyment of the show). As for Rome, watch it Turd! Remember that HBO didn't cancel Deadwood because of Rome. If anything you can blame John, from Cincinnati that Milch was doing for HBO as well. HBO didn't want to pay the cast of Deadwood to hang around for 4 months waiting for Milch to get done. Rome is a must do, Turd. You won't regret it. You'll just be PO'ed again as the writer's strike killed Rome after season 2 for the same reasons Deadwood was done in. Money; in particular, the actor's salaries that HBO didn't want to pay waiting for production to start.

First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

The only thing I'm unsure about with the HBO version is Arya's age. By the time they get to Storm the actress playing Arya will be waaaay older than in the books. IMO her age is such a major part of her character arc with all the things that happen to her. I wonder if they are just going to go with it and ignore the book version of her.

I think it fits an adolescent pretty well, really.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?

Sorry Kaylore, I was referencing Turd Fergy's comment about Rome...my bad, should have put his quote in there. I totally agree about Lucius and Titus and you are correct about the costs (it was at that time the most expensive show on a seasonal basis that HBO had ever done), but the writer's strike was also key. Italy is the most expensive place in the world to film, and much of the show was shot there (50-60% if memory serves). HBO and BBC were not willing to continue to pay all the location fees, permit fees (and there were an embarrassment of those), actor's salaries, etc. when no one knew how long the strike would last. There were supposed to be two or three more seasons in the origional plan.

As for you, Rev:
Mr."Excuse me sir, but you have an email to focus on "!
I want to thank you for passing a half a sip of my beer through my nose!

And don't call me "Sir", I work for a living.

You're next up this afternoon. I'm going to get me another beer, have a smoke, then we'll get back to Boot Camp...Sir, yes Sir!

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Sir, yes Sir!

East coast, huh?

Gross.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

East coast, huh?

Gross.

Ah, I'm in Atlanta...not so bad. 60F today. Nice out. Smoke done, beer recharged. Heading over to E-mail to get it out to you next. Totally bummed that I lost the one I did for you the other night. Organic flow...just poured out clean. Hope I get into that flow again.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Ah, I'm in Atlanta...not so bad. 60F today. Nice out. Smoke done, beer recharged. Heading over to E-mail to get it out to you next. Totally bummed that I lost the one I did for you the other night. Organic flow...just poured out clean. Hope I get into that flow again.

I meant the start and finish with "sir" is indicative of east coast/parris island. Hollywood is where they make men

And you LOST it?! Wtfffffffff

[McDman]

I can't wait til the new book comes out, in like 5 years! Gaaaaah!

I gave up on WOT, book 8 is just so boring. I couldn't take it anymore.

[McDman]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?

Apparently they are making a movie.

And another season of Arrested Development and a movie!

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by McDman

I can't wait til the new book comes out, in like 5 years! Gaaaaah!

I gave up on WOT, book 8 is just so boring. I couldn't take it anymore.

I know what you mean but it DOES pick back up.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by McDman

Apparently they are making a movie.

And another season of Arrested Development and a movie!

(to Dutch too) They are Making a movie of Rome? How, is that when one of the main characters (NO SPOILERS) died at the end of season 2?

[McDman]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

(to Dutch too) They are Making a movie of Rome? How, is that when one of the main characters (NO SPOILERS) died at the end of season 2?

If I remember correctly didn't they just lay him down at the end? I read they technically could pull of not having him die.

[sirhcyennek81]

Are you guys talking about the show, Rome? And if you are, I recall alot of people dying. It was not a unique way to be written out of the storyline.

[McDman]

http://screenrant.com/hbo-rome-movie...ls-kofi-47487/

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by McDman

If I remember correctly didn't they just lay him down at the end? I read they technically could pull of not having him die.

I guess that's true. He's mortally wounded and then it cuts to Titus talking to Egyptian boy as they walk through the Forum.