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epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

You forget, half of these "fans" didn't want it so they could be right.

I guess theyre just mad the Broncos made the playoffs.

colonelbeef · 01-01-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

Tebow is playing no differently than he's done for the majority of the season.

In the past the defense, Prater, and the O did enough in the 4th quarter to come from behind.

This is why jumping the gun and declaring Tebow the saviour, franchise QB etc etc and jumping on Elway for not doing so was idiotic and full of fail. Tebow is a work in progress and has done enough to deserve another look in 2012 but please let's stop with all the nonsense of Tebow vs Elway vs Fox vs Sanity.

He's got a lot of work to do in the offseason.

Yep.

Can't believe how stupid some of the fans are- they think that they know NFL Qbing better than John Elway does.

Pure idiocy.

Jekyll15Hyde · 01-01-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

I guess theyre just mad the Broncos made the playoffs.

Forest from the trees.... forest from the trees

epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hdtech96

Forest from the trees.... forest from the trees

Its "...forest for the trees."

Just FYI.

MacGruder · 01-01-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by colonelbeef

Yep.

Can't believe how stupid some of the fans are- they think that they know NFL Qbing better than John Elway does.

Pure idiocy.

I can't believe how stupid people are.. this KC team just shut down Aaron Rodgers.. and he has a heck of a lot better team and coach than Tebow does.

Tebow led this team to the playoffs in spite of their weaknesses...

Any normal pocket passer could not have done what Tebow did with this team. Orton just proved that.

Put Tebow on the Chiefs and he would be better than Orton there too.

NFLBRONCO · 01-01-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

Tebow is playing no differently than he's done for the majority of the season.

In the past the defense, Prater, and the O did enough in the 4th quarter to come from behind.

This is why jumping the gun and declaring Tebow the saviour, franchise QB etc etc and jumping on Elway for not doing so was idiotic and full of fail. Tebow is a work in progress and has done enough to deserve another look in 2012 but please let's stop with all the nonsense of Tebow vs Elway vs Fox vs Sanity.

He's got a lot of work to do in the offseason.

Exactly

KC scored 7 pts and we still couldn't win

? Pretty sad if you ask me.

Tebow has miles to go

Jekyll15Hyde · 01-01-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

Its "...forest for the trees."

Just FYI.

Ha... I guess I have always said it wrong. Thanks for clarifying.

lod01 · 01-01-2012, 09:12 PM

Congrats. Worst starting QB in the NFL.

MacGruder · 01-01-2012, 09:20 PM

Hey.. say what you want about Tebow.. but he can at least stay healthy.. and makes the Broncos run game go from one of the worst to the best in the league.

I doubt any other QB could stay healthy in this offense let alone win games.

People are forgetting Tebow is the one that covered up all the weaknesses of this team..even on defense. And the Broncos coaches are doing nothing to reciprocate the favor. Just using what he provides and taking credit for it.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lod01

Congrats. Worst starting QB in the NFL.

Playoffs.

Scoreboard.

extralife · 01-01-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

We didn't beat the Jets? Miami? @ the Raiders? Really?

we choked at the end of the season, just like we've done at the end of every season over the last five years under now three different coaches and three different QBs. this time the dice just happened to bail us out because our division sucks as bad as we do. yeah, I'll take it, but the facts haven't changed--we tried our very best to choke away a playoff spot AGAIN. and we succeeded AGAIN, but then were bailed out by failure around us. if san diego doesn't forget that the NFL season has an October and a November, this is another 8-8 horror show of a broncos team sitting on their asses come playoff time. I've seen a few too many of those lately. hard to be super excited about the events of the last month.

NFLBRONCO · 01-01-2012, 09:38 PM

Les was saying on Sunday Sports Zone tonight at halftime he saw a personnel guy and jokingly said, can we get a guy that can throw the ball. The guy said, its on the top of our xmas wish list. We'll see how true that is in offseason.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

Les was saying on Sunday Sports Zone tonight at halftime he saw a personnel guy and jokingly said, can we get a guy that can throw the ball. The guy said, its on the top of our xmas wish list. We'll see how true that is in offseason.

I bet thats what happened.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

we choked at the end of the season, just like we've done at the end of every season over the last five years under now three different coaches and three different QBs. this time the dice just happened to bail us out because our division sucks as bad as we do. yeah, I'll take it, but the facts haven't changed--we tried our very best to choke away a playoff spot AGAIN. and we succeeded AGAIN, but then were bailed out by failure around us. if san diego doesn't forget that the NFL season has an October and a November, this is another 8-8 horror show of a broncos team sitting on their asses come playoff time. I've seen a few too many of those lately. hard to be super excited about the events of the last month.

Um...did you forget last season?

extralife · 01-01-2012, 09:42 PM

absolutely, but that's not the point

Bronx33 · 01-01-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

Les was saying on Sunday Sports Zone tonight at halftime he saw a personnel guy and jokingly said, can we get a guy that can throw the ball. The guy said, its on the top of our xmas wish list. We'll see how true that is in offseason.

Les would say he saw a spaceship if it got him ratings and 2 minutes of facetime.

NFLBRONCO · 01-01-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

Les would say he saw a spaceship if it got him ratings and 2 minutes of facetime.

could be too we'll see

epicSocialism4tw · 01-01-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

could be too we'll see

We'll see the playoffs next week.

Or at least I will. I don't know about you guys who are upset about the team making the playoffs, but I'll be watching.

bombay · 01-01-2012, 09:54 PM

Tebow for Gabbert. don't they like tebow in Jacksonville? Gabbert can actually throw the ball if he's smart enough to pick up a system.

Ratboy · 01-01-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LongDongJohnson

Been saying this for how long? Glad to see the delusional fans finally seeing the light. Tebow is not an nfl qb. Never will be.

Winning makes everything look perfect.

We were winning, so we didn't care that Tebow couldn't complete passes. We got a few lucky plays and it put us into position to win.

Tebow has heart, but lacks everything else needed by a QB.

MacGruder · 01-01-2012, 10:07 PM

Have people forgotten that Orton couldn't function in this offense either?

NO QB can function in Fox's offense...

You guys are forgetting that a normal QB would not be "protected" in the pocket the way Tebow is. The only reason he is is because of his own running ability.

At Florida the players were HIGH on their backup just like here in Denver.. they said ..

"we have a great run game.. and line.. and defense.. a great coach.. if only we had a real QB not Tebow we would be even more unstoppable"

Then Tebow left and it all collapsed... it all disappeared.

JDB7821 · 01-01-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MacGruder

Have people forgotten that Orton couldn't function in this offense either?

NO QB can function in Fox's offense...

You haven't been able to see the complete offense Fox wants to run. He couldn't install everything he wanted with no offseason and then he had to run the option for Tebow.

I love Tebow and I want nothing more for them to go on to have a Hall of Fame career. That said, I think the Broncos should make a play for Matt Flynn. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to bring in a rookie quarterback that isn't one of the elite like Luck or Griffin. Since they seemed to have played their way out of those guys, Flynn makes a lot of sense. I think he'll get some unfair comparisons to Matt Cassel by some of you, but I have a much better feeling about him.

Sign Flynn and draft some more pieces to put around him and the Broncos will probably win the West again next year in a more legitimate way.

kappys · 01-01-2012, 10:12 PM

I think in the end what's dissapointing is that Tebow won't take chances to make tight throws. He started doing that after his first few games, then had a really, really bad go of it in Buffalo and promptly shut down this game. I can take mistakes, picks, etc. from a young QB. I can't take not trying to make a throw because a DB is within a few yards of his receivers..

I'm hoping he can improve on that in the offseason. But I get ahead of myself, I hope he can improve on it by next week. If we're eliminated then I still want Tebow back for a full season as starter but if there is no progress then we should look in another direction, I don't think now is the time to do it.

NFLBRONCO · 01-01-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

We'll see the playoffs next week.

Or at least I will. I don't know about you guys who are upset about the team making the playoffs, but I'll be watching.

I'll watch every game thanks. I'd bet you'd laugh your ass off at any team that backed into playoffs like we did not named Denver though.

Its a exp for the young guys I agree. I just think if you can't earn a playoff spot yourself to a team that scored 7 pts in your crib and not win you honestly don't deserve spot. By end of the week I'll want to win this game I'm pissed at today's game.

errand · 01-01-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

You're right. You didn't suit up and play, so it was certainly no thanks to you. But as for the team? You can thank them because they improved from 4-12 to 8-8 and made the playoffs.

Division winners hosting a home playoff game.

I remember when people were saying that they didn't want to go 8-8 with kyle orton as our quarterback.... and someone said well 8-8 can get you into the playoffs and it was laughed at.

hopefully we'll win a playoff game at home next week... the sexual predator is hobbled was a bad ankle and mendenhall is out... as is ryan clark.

01-01-2012, 09:20 PM	#134
MacGruder visionary New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5,449 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hey.. say what you want about Tebow.. but he can at least stay healthy.. and makes the Broncos run game go from one of the worst to the best in the league. I doubt any other QB could stay healthy in this offense let alone win games. People are forgetting Tebow is the one that covered up all the weaknesses of this team..even on defense. And the Broncos coaches are doing nothing to reciprocate the favor. Just using what he provides and taking credit for it. Last edited by MacGruder; 01-01-2012 at 09:34 PM..

01-01-2012, 09:38 PM	#137
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,381	Les was saying on Sunday Sports Zone tonight at halftime he saw a personnel guy and jokingly said, can we get a guy that can throw the ball. The guy said, its on the top of our xmas wish list. We'll see how true that is in offseason. Last edited by NFLBRONCO; 01-01-2012 at 09:41 PM..

01-01-2012, 10:07 PM	#146
MacGruder visionary New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5,449 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Have people forgotten that Orton couldn't function in this offense either? NO QB can function in Fox's offense... You guys are forgetting that a normal QB would not be "protected" in the pocket the way Tebow is. The only reason he is is because of his own running ability. At Florida the players were HIGH on their backup just like here in Denver.. they said .. "we have a great run game.. and line.. and defense.. a great coach.. if only we had a real QB not Tebow we would be even more unstoppable" Then Tebow left and it all collapsed... it all disappeared. Last edited by MacGruder; 01-01-2012 at 10:11 PM..

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01-01-2012, 09:12 PM	#133
lod01 Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 271 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Congrats. Worst starting QB in the NFL.

01-01-2012, 09:42 PM	#140
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,896	absolutely, but that's not the point

01-01-2012, 09:54 PM	#144
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,330	Tebow for Gabbert. don't they like tebow in Jacksonville? Gabbert can actually throw the ball if he's smart enough to pick up a system.

01-01-2012, 10:12 PM	#148
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,900	I think in the end what's dissapointing is that Tebow won't take chances to make tight throws. He started doing that after his first few games, then had a really, really bad go of it in Buffalo and promptly shut down this game. I can take mistakes, picks, etc. from a young QB. I can't take not trying to make a throw because a DB is within a few yards of his receivers.. I'm hoping he can improve on that in the offseason. But I get ahead of myself, I hope he can improve on it by next week. If we're eliminated then I still want Tebow back for a full season as starter but if there is no progress then we should look in another direction, I don't think now is the time to do it.