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Old 01-01-2012, 04:35 PM   #51
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Guy looks so lost out there. Can't make a decision to save his life.
Decisions?

Those are for his imaginary playmate.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:35 PM   #52
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watching this game on a British stream , Never knew the Brits were so ruthless , Teebs is Ray lewis , he also throws like Ray Lewis ...
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:36 PM   #53
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Hard to have confidence when your coaches don't have any in you! The play calling is pathetic.
There's a reason he didn't start the season, and there's a reason they run the type of offense they do. You just have to see what's right in front of you to understand this. It's not pleasant, but it's there. We all wanted him to succeed (or at least most of us did). We all wanted him to be the answer. But it doesn't look like it's going to work out that way.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:37 PM   #54
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This coaching staff is pathetic!! Fox and McCoy is prolly the worst combination in the world for Tebow. Throw in the most obvious passing situations and don't throw consistently unless we're losing by 2+ scores or on the final drive like today. They call zero plays for him to get into any type of rhythm..you know like quick slants etc. Having said that...Tebow does need A LOT of work.
They call slants, Tim just won't take his drop and get rid of the ball.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:39 PM   #55
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It's not the playcalling, WRs and so on.

This is a pattern with Tebow. Against good quality DBs he's very hesitant to throw the ball. Against crappy DBs where our WRs get great seperation Tebow looks good like any other QB.

Against decent CBs, not so much.

So let's stop blaming the WRs, playcalling and so on. Tebow just played poorly and failed to elevate his game in the 4th largely due to KC having nothing to lose and playing tight coverage all game long instead of going into prevent mode.

Like I've been saying since he took over as starter. He's going to develop and it's going to take time. One/two seasons isn't enough, it's going to be a while but there's enough there for him to come back and deserve a fair shot at the job in 2012.
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There is a lot of suck contributing to the inept offense right now. Tebow is a big part of it, but our WR were struggling to separate and the palycalling was embarassingly conservative. Denver was playing not to lose today and hoping Tebow could pull out a miracle in the end. He coluldnt. They lost.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:41 PM   #57
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It's not the playcalling, WRs and so on.

This is a pattern with Tebow. Against good quality DBs he's very hesitant to throw the ball. Against crappy DBs where our WRs get great seperation Tebow looks good like any other QB.

Against decent CBs, not so much.

So let's stop blaming the WRs, playcalling and so on. Tebow just played poorly and failed to elevate his game in the 4th largely due to KC having nothing to lose and playing tight coverage all game long instead of going into prevent mode.

Like I've been saying since he took over as starter. He's going to develop and it's going to take time. One/two seasons isn't enough, it's going to be a while but there's enough there for him to come back and deserve a fair shot at the job in 2012.
Man you just knocked it out of the park
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:42 PM   #58
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It's tough to call out anyone/anything when we lose or else pricks just go on about excusing Tebow's performance.

But in regards to the playcalls, when was the last time we called a screen? A bootleg? Crossing routes 5 yards past the line of scrimmage? It doesn't happen and it doesn't make any sense...
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It's not the playcalling, WRs and so on.

This is a pattern with Tebow. Against good quality DBs he's very hesitant to throw the ball. Against crappy DBs where our WRs get great seperation Tebow looks good like any other QB.

Against decent CBs, not so much.

So let's stop blaming the WRs, playcalling and so on. Tebow just played poorly and failed to elevate his game in the 4th largely due to KC having nothing to lose and playing tight coverage all game long instead of going into prevent mode.

Like I've been saying since he took over as starter. He's going to develop and it's going to take time. One/two seasons isn't enough, it's going to be a while but there's enough there for him to come back and deserve a fair shot at the job in 2012.
Spot on.
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It's tough to call out anyone/anything when we lose or else pricks just go on about excusing Tebow's performance.

But in regards to the playcalls, when was the last time we called a screen? A bootleg? Crossing routes 5 yards past the line of scrimmage? It doesn't happen and it doesn't make any sense...
How about the ****ing flea flicker that was wide ****ing open and Tebow didn't throw the ball? Was that too bland a play call?
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It's tough to call out anyone/anything when we lose or else pricks just go on about excusing Tebow's performance.

But in regards to the playcalls, when was the last time we called a screen? A bootleg? Crossing routes 5 yards past the line of scrimmage? It doesn't happen and it doesn't make any sense...
Just because Tebow doesn't execute it doesn't mean they don't call it
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Just because Tebow doesn't execute it doesn't mean they don't call it
It's pretty obvious when a screen is called.

We haven't called one in at least two games.

Why the **** would you not call a play that Tebow has has success with in the past?
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almost every passing situation is a bomb, we have nothing in the middle, possibly because we are too worried about giving Tebow a clean pocket so TE's are forced to stay and pass block.

Tebow doesn't see the checkdowns when they are there.

In the end I think Fox, and Mccoy deserve just as much blame for the ineptness of the offense
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Hard to have confidence when your coaches don't have any in you! The play calling is pathetic. They have failed with 2 QB's, how many chances do THEY get?
Hard to have confidence as a coach when the play calls that are throws are horrible.

See it works both ways, fancy that.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:51 PM   #65
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It's pretty obvious when a screen is called.

We haven't called one in at least two games.

Why the **** would you not call a play that Tebow has has success with in the past?
The coaches see what they see who knows why they don't do what they don't do
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Offensive play calling was special today. No rythm, nothing short. This all or nothing mentality in the passing game is ****ing stupid.

But I am looking forward to a week of BS arguments over it being Tebow's fault.

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Old 01-01-2012, 04:52 PM   #67
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In all my Tebashing, I feel it's necessary to point out that KC made Aaron Rodgers look like Brady Quinn just the other week, so......yeah.....Tebow sucks but let's give credit to the Chefs for their defense.
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Look the WRs suck, the OC sucks, the QB sucks again. There is a lot of suck. Even Miller sucks with his injury.

A lot of suck going into the playoffs.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:59 PM   #69
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The entire group (McCoy, Tebow, all the receivers) need time together before you make any blanket statement. No one was ready for this transition mid-season. Not McCoy who has been drawing up plays on cocktail napkins as a result. Not Tebow who still hasn't gotten a real NFL off-season to work and develop. Not Thomas, Decker, Royal, etc. who caught almost zero passes from Tebow until the switch was made mid-season.

Objectivity and patience should rule the day when talking about our passing game. All of the components need to improve but all of them have shown some potential. We will lose some pieces (such as Royal) and can surely add additional talent to help. But a second year is imperative before we decide who's truly to blame.
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Offensive play calling was special today. No rythm, nothing short. This all or nothing mentality in the passing game is ****ing stupid.

But I am looking forward to a week of BS arguments over it being Tebow's fault.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck
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He was more of a threat when teams were worried he'd run for 20 yards. Now that teams are taking his rushing seriously, and containing and watching him, he is being forced to throw the ball. He is no longer the threat he was. Not that he was a super scoring threat to begin with, if you really think that scoring 13, 16, 17, 17.. etc.. is somehow potent and threatening.

Our offense was borderline anemic. with some miracle finishes, while the real reason our team was winning, our defense, was getting next to no credit at all.
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Its an Orton?


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Old 01-01-2012, 05:09 PM   #73
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I do believe that the only routes that Tebow is comfortable throwing are Flys and Comebacks, because those are the pattern he seems to go with, even when there are players running square ins and drag routes in the middle of the field.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:12 PM   #74
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Been saying this for how long? Glad to see the delusional fans finally seeing the light. Tebow is not an nfl qb. Never will be.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:19 PM   #75
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No bubble screens, no rb screens, and our qb has tunnel vision.

We got lucky Bowe went out, kept it close.

But there is no fing excuse for calling a toss sweep on 3rd and 7 down 4 w/ 6 mins.

If you dont trust him, get him the fk outta there.
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