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Old 12-09-2011, 12:34 PM   #1226
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Medicare is going to be huge in the coming years. I don't doubt this scenario at all.

If Epic/Llama is going to emulate you, copy you or whatever he calls it...I wish he would at least do a better job finding stuff that actually matters. He is so jealous of you that even his avatar screams your name.

I don't understand why anyone has issues with a sense of humor. If it's funny then it makes a point.

I guess the 1% are not amused. (Pinkies up and all that rot!)
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:36 PM   #1228
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I agree, but it ain't gonna happen when the same companies who moved manufacturing off-shore and are getting outrageous tax breaks are the same ones who have bribed our politicians. There is no way that our corporatist Democrats and Republicans are gonna tariff the hell out of the Chinese-made products that their corporate paymasters are selling.

The solution would be to throw them out of office, but most people are too fixated on the useless debate of 'Democrats vs. Republicans' to try that.
At the higher levels it is so layered it would be exactly like taxing ourselves. Trace the money through the IMF. Where is the money coming from? Who is takiing the lead in global banking? The whole thing is so incestous that if you experiment with isolation (ie. Globalization is bad) you will end up with Peronism (See Argentina) and have your wealth essentially relocate.
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Celebrating the farmers of the 99%. “I have not spoken to one farmer who doesn’t understand the message of Occupy Wall Street,” organic farmer Jim Gerritsen says. “We have fifth- and sixth-generation farmers up where I live being pushed out of business, when all they want to do is grow good food. And if it goes on like this, all we’re going to have to eat in this country is unregulated, imported, genetically modified produce. That’s not a healthy food system.”



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Old 12-11-2011, 05:37 AM   #1230
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Rich People DON'T Create Jobs: 6 Myths That Have to Be Killed for Our Economy to Live

These zombie talking points aren't just wrong; they're dangerous. If we're ever going to revive the economy, we've got to tackle them head on.
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In truth, the assertion, that 10% of the radical left represents the 99% is absurd, but might be a good strategy, as the media is obviously willing to play allong and ignore all of their crimes, violence and rapes. Furthermore it is absurd that had the foundation of prosperity (Capitalism) that we have in America is being attacked -- I assume that communism that has brought such great wealth to Cuba and North Korea just needs to be run by the right elites, and we will all have greater waelth? Such assertions ignore the reality of history.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:39 AM   #1232
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In truth, the assertion, that 10% of the radical left represents the 99% is absurd, but might be a good strategy...
Who said they did?

Just another straw man from you.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:39 AM   #1233
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The Agenda Project: Patriotic Millionaires' Message to Congress "Tax Me"

Ten year ago, Republicans made a mistake. They gave tax cuts to millionaires. They decided our country needed less money and millionaires needed more.

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:21 PM   #1235
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Yes, a train blowing thru there at, say, 50 MPH surely will be able to stop for said 4 year old in its path, right? right?

Considering I've always believed people that use children as human shields to be douchebags, I guess my faith in humanity is plummeting just as hers is movin' on up.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:24 AM   #1237
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Yawn!

More "attack the messenger because I can't refute the message" from the red state rube contingent.
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I agree, but it ain't gonna happen when the same companies who moved manufacturing off-shore and are getting outrageous tax breaks are the same ones who have bribed our politicians. There is no way that our corporatist Democrats and Republicans are gonna tariff the hell out of the Chinese-made products that their corporate paymasters are selling.

The solution would be to throw them out of office, but most people are too fixated on the useless debate of 'Democrats vs. Republicans' to try that.
That, of course, is not the solution, when your country is a service/consumer economy and not a exporting economy (the U.S. imports 50% more products than it exports).
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Yawn!

More "attack the messenger because I can't refute the message" from the red state rube contingent.
Not at all, the problem has always been not a clear message, and that there seemed to be alot of homeless people, druggies, and just general crooks that viewed the gathering as an opportunity. The more stories like this that come out the more it reaffirms that position. They message no matter how righteous, is irrelevant if it doesn't get delivered.

Yes there are bad people in any group, but for a protest group of a relatively small number of people there seems to be a disproportionate number of crimes or just general disgusting behavior being reported. When combined with the unclear message, makes the entire thing look like a joke.

My favorite part is how when faced with eviction for breaking laws by camping in parks overnight, while protesting greedy corporations, the cost of schooling, the right to a job, the man, and the system, the first thing the protestors did was run to the courts and ask the man to make the other man let them stay.
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Yes, a train blowing thru there at, say, 50 MPH surely will be able to stop for said 4 year old in its path, right? right?

Considering I've always believed people that use children as human shields to be douchebags, I guess my faith in humanity is plummeting just as hers is movin' on up.
Dude, your avy is classic. Right on!
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Not at all, the problem has always been not a clear message, and that there seemed to be alot of homeless people, druggies, and just general crooks that viewed the gathering as an opportunity. The more stories like this that come out the more it reaffirms that position. They message no matter how righteous, is irrelevant if it doesn't get delivered.

Yes there are bad people in any group, but for a protest group of a relatively small number of people there seems to be a disproportionate number of crimes or just general disgusting behavior being reported. When combined with the unclear message, makes the entire thing look like a joke.

My favorite part is how when faced with eviction for breaking laws by camping in parks overnight, while protesting greedy corporations, the cost of schooling, the right to a job, the man, and the system, the first thing the protestors did was run to the courts and ask the man to make the other man let them stay.
Right-wingnuts say the dumbest things...

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Not at all, the problem has always been not a clear message, and that there seemed to be alot of homeless people, druggies, and just general crooks that viewed the gathering as an opportunity. The more stories like this that come out the more it reaffirms that position. They message no matter how righteous, is irrelevant if it doesn't get delivered.

Yes there are bad people in any group, but for a protest group of a relatively small number of people there seems to be a disproportionate number of crimes or just general disgusting behavior being reported. When combined with the unclear message, makes the entire thing look like a joke.

My favorite part is how when faced with eviction for breaking laws by camping in parks overnight, while protesting greedy corporations, the cost of schooling, the right to a job, the man, and the system, the first thing the protestors did was run to the courts and ask the man to make the other man let them stay.

...at least that's what you're told on TV anyway.
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NDAA 2012 and SOPA: Do They Target the Tea Party and Wall Street Movements?


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The question, in short, everyone is asking is if these proposed laws come into effect, who decides on the parameters? What constitutes piracy? What constitutes terrorism? What constituted support of terrorism?

The problem is that both proposed laws provide lawmakers and authorities with unhealthy amounts of power to make those decisions, potentially leaving American citizens at the mercy of military authorities.

Does "anti-government" also mean "anti-American"? If so, then there are tough times ahead for America and Americans.

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Nice job stickin it to the MAN LABF!!!! LMAO!! fail

Occupy LA cost Los Angeles taxpayers at least $2.3 million, according to a city report issued Friday.
The $2.3 million tab includes more than $1.6 million in overtime pay for police and more than $125,000 for park infrastructure repairs. It does not include the full cost of restoring the lawn outside Los Angeles City Hall where protesters camped for two months, though an earlier estimate had pegged that number around $400,000, the Associated Press reported.
Police raided and cleared out the encampment late last month, arresting more than 200 protesters. That action cost more than $700,000, local CBS affiliate KCBS reported.
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...Over the next year, I expect the “what” will give way to the “how” in the broad electorate’s comprehension of the financial situation. The 99 percent must learn to differentiate the bloodsuckers and rent-extractors from those in the 1 percent who make the world a better, more just place to live. Once people realize how Wall Street made its pile, understand how financiers get rich, what it is that they actually do, the time will become ripe for someone to gather the spreading ripples of anger and perplexity into a focused tsunami of retribution. To make the bastards pay, properly, for the grief and woe they have caused. Perhaps not to the extent proposed by H. L. Mencken, who wrote that when a bank fails, the first order of business should be to hang its board of directors, but in a manner in which the pain is proportionate to the collateral damage. Possibly an excess-profits tax retroactive to 2007, or some form of “Tobin tax” on transactions, or a wealth tax. The era of money for nothing will be over.

But it won’t just end with taxes. When the great day comes, Wall Street will pray for another Pecora, because compared with the rough beast now beginning to strain at the leash, Pecora will look like Phil Gramm. Humiliation and ridicule, even financial penalties, will be the least of the Street’s tribulations. There will be prosecutions and show trials. There will be violence, mark my words. Houses burnt, property defaced. I just hope that this time the mob targets the right people in Wall Street and in Washington. (How does a right-thinking Christian go about asking Santa for Mitch McConnell’s head under the Christmas tree?) There will be kleptocrats who threaten to take themselves elsewhere if their demands on jurisdictions and tax breaks aren’t met, and I say let ’em go!

At the end of the day, the convulsion to come won’t really be about Wall Street’s derivatives malefactions, or its subprime fun and games, or rogue trading, or the folly of banks. It will be about this society’s final opportunity to rip away the paralyzing shackles of corruption or else dwell forever in a neofeudal social order. You might say that 1384 has replaced 1984 as our worst-case scenario. I have lived what now, at 75, is starting to feel like a long life. If anyone asks me what has been the great American story of my lifetime, I have a ready answer. It is the corruption, money-based, that has settled like some all-enveloping excremental mist on the landscape of our hopes, that has permeated every nook of any institution or being that has real influence on the way we live now. Sixty years ago, if you had asked me, on the basis of all that I had been taught, whether I thought this condition of general rot was possible in this country, I would have told you that you were nuts. And I would have been very wrong. What has happened in this country has made a lie of my boyhood.

There should be more to America, Gore Vidal has written, than who pays tax to whom. It has been in Wall Street’s interest to shrivel our sensibilities as a nation, to shove aside the verities of which General MacArthur spoke at West Point—duty, honor, country—in favor of grubby schemes and scams and “carried interest” calculations. Time, I think, to take the country back.
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Seriously?

What's next...a quote from Daily Kos begging for North Korea-style communist dictatorship to come to America?
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Yeah, extremist far left commentary?

Who wants to consider that garbage besides you, LABF and the rest of the Hyperliberal Shill Brigade?
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