We are the 99 Percent

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

Fixed it for you.

You didn't "fix" anything - you merely deflected, changed the subject, etc.

But, thanks to the influence of Fox News and Rehab Rush, I suppose deflecting and fixing are synonymous in the minds of ditto sheep like you.

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The status quo the rightards on this board are fighting to maintain...

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[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by moninghaly

A Job is a right .

Where is that in that constitution? Right next to where Health Care is a right?

Sure you have the right to find employment in this country, but you sure as hell aren't just given one.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

The New Yorker is one of the most respected journalism sources in the world, and has been for almost a hundred years. What you are saying is that you will not accept any opinion that you don't already agree with, regardless of the source.

please provide a link to the article. Until you do this I'll stand by my opinion that the article is nothing more than an editorial opinion piece.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by alkemical

Are there, or are there NOT multiple tea parties?

Yes or no?

Are some of them FOR PROFIT?

yes or no?

That is all.

[StugotsIII]

If a Republican was currently President….these demonstrations wouldn't be going on around Wall Street….they would be going on at the White House…

It's funny…

Now that there is a Democrat as President and things are still REALLY, REALLY bad…it's not the Presidents fault….how could it be? Must be Wall Street. Can't blame the guy in charge….he's one of theirs.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

love it, thanks! This actually is common ground and one of the reasons I have little problem with the OWS people (other than they are kind of morons, but that's a different issue).

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Facts are facts. Sorry they get in your way.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by alkemical

Facts are facts. Sorry they get in your way.

so post those facts brosef. Don't let me stand in your way.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

so post those facts brosef. Don't let me stand in your way.

I already have, dingus. You keep ignoring them.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

If a Republican was currently President….these demonstrations wouldn't be going on around Wall Street….they would be going on at the White House…

....and herded into "free speech zones" where, provided they aren't wearing the wrong T-shirt, can exercise their rights....

[BroncoLifer]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I thought that the Tea Partiers were upset that a black man was in the White House.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by BroncoLifer

I thought that the Tea Partiers were upset that a black man was in the White House.

That too.

[Rohirrim]

What terrorizes Wall Street and Washington is the possibility that the American people might stop buying into the partisan bull**** that turns us against each other, and instead focus all our anger on those greedy bastards who are destroying our country.

[TonyR]

...68 percent of all voters and 54 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning voters favored raising taxes on incomes above $250,000 (i.e., the Obama plan) to tackle the deficit...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ll_100911.html


To whom, exactly, do Republican officeholders and candidates think they're pandering? The Tea Party? Evidence has begun to trickle in that even the Tea Party isn't as anti-tax as Republican party leaders. On Aug. 1 the New York Times ran a Page One story by Kate Zernike ... that said "the power of the Tea Party as a singular force may be more phantom than reality." Zernike then went on to report: "When Tea Party supporters were asked if the debt-ceiling agreement should include only tax increases, only spending cuts, or a combination of both, the majority — 53 percent — said that it should include a combination. Forty-five percent preferred only spending cuts."

http://www.tnr.com/blog/timothy-noah...ublicans-taxes

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

....and herded into "free speech zones" where, provided they aren't wearing the wrong T-shirt, can exercise their rights....

Another point that you completely missed...

[El Minion]

The tragic, hilarious “We Are the 53 percent” movement

Conservatives launch a campaign against the poor and the old -- so we're launching one too

By Alex Pareene


(Credit: Alex Pareene/Salon)


Topics:Occupy Wall Street, U.S. Economy, Erick Erickson, Taxes, Great Recession

The art with this story is Alex Pareene's parody of Erick Erickson's unintentionally hilarious web site We Are The 53%. It screams out for satire -- so go ahead and give it a try. We'll publish the best ones on Salon. Write a hand-written letter, take a picture and email it to us at 53@salon.com. Or you can publish it yourself on Open Salon -- just tag it "The Real 53 Percent."

The conservative response to the “We are the 99 percent” movement is … hilarious. (And, sure, heartbreaking.) Conservative filmmaker Mike Wilson and vacuous right-blogger Erick Erickson joined forces to start “We Are the 53%,” a blog made up of contributions from the 53 percent of Americans who pay more in federal income taxes than they receive back in deductions or credits.

The project was kicked off by Erick Erickson, who announced that he works “three jobs,” by which he means being a professional television pundit, radio pundit and Internet pundit. There is a stunning amount of cognitive dissonance, misplaced resentment and class revulsion going on, even for a conservative Web project.

The site can’t even manage to correctly represent that 53 percent, with multiple contributors very clearly belonging to the 47 percent of people who make up the supposed parasite class. There is a blog dedicated to this confused minority. The best example is obviously this dog.

Let’s get this out of the way early: Pretty much every adult American pays taxes. Workers who are too poor to pay federal income taxes still pay payroll taxes, and property taxes if they own their home. Even the unemployed pay sales taxes. The poorest Americans — people who make an average of $12,500 a year — pay, on average, 16 percent of their paltry income in taxes. That is less than every other demographic, but the point of a progressive tax system is that 16 percent of a poor person’s income is a hell of a lot more meaningful to that person than 30 percent of a millionaire’s. It’s a simple concept, and one that most Americans agree with. And that simplicity and popularity is why the conservative movement has spent 100 years attempting to muddy the debate with misinformation. (They are quite dedicated, actually, to class warfare, in that they seek to align the shrinking middle with the elites in a war against the downtrodden.)

So a good number of people who pay no federal income taxes are simply lucky enough to be impoverished. The rest are beneficiaries of tax breaks and loopholes championed most vocally by Republicans. A member of “the 1 percent” (or, more accurately, the tenth-of-1 percent) likely considers these harried taxpayers “the 53 percent of people without the sense to hire a good accountant.”

Here’s my Tumblr idea, for Americans resentful of the free rides they imagine others are getting as they work themselves to the bone: “We are the 94 percent of people who claim never to have received government benefits who have actually directly benefited from government social programs.”

In conclusion, rockets.

Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon. Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene More Alex Pareene

[alkemical]

what would happen, if say....people started moving their assets over to credit unions?

[El Minion]

Bankers’ Salaries vs. Everyone Else’s

By CATHERINE RAMPELL

Why are the Occupy Wall Streeters so angry at bankers? This chart might give you some idea:


Via New York State Comptroller report.

That chart is from a new report from the New York State Comptroller’s office on the securities industry in New York City.

It shows that the average salary in the industry in 2010 was $361,330 — five and a half times the average salary in the rest of the private sector in the city ($66,120). By contrast, 30 years ago such salaries were only twice as high as in the rest of the private sector.

Last year helped contribute to the widening of that gap, too.

That’s not to say that bankers have job security.

The overall financial services sector was disproportionately hit by the financial crisis. The sector employs just 12 percent of the city’s work force, but accounted for one out of every three jobs lost in the recession. Some (not all) of those jobs were regained, but the comptroller’s office says the industry “is likely to experience significant job losses over the course of the next year.”

In particular, the securities sub-sector of financial services “could lose an additional 10,000 jobs by the end of 2012, which would bring total job losses in the industry to 32,000 since January 2008,” the report said.

[StugotsIII]

Originally Posted by El Minion

Bankers’ Salaries vs. Everyone Else’s

By CATHERINE RAMPELL

Why are the Occupy Wall Streeters so angry at bankers? This chart might give you some idea:


Via New York State Comptroller report.

That chart is from a new report from the New York State Comptroller’s office on the securities industry in New York City.

It shows that the average salary in the industry in 2010 was $361,330 — five and a half times the average salary in the rest of the private sector in the city ($66,120). By contrast, 30 years ago such salaries were only twice as high as in the rest of the private sector.

Last year helped contribute to the widening of that gap, too.

That’s not to say that bankers have job security.

The overall financial services sector was disproportionately hit by the financial crisis. The sector employs just 12 percent of the city’s work force, but accounted for one out of every three jobs lost in the recession. Some (not all) of those jobs were regained, but the comptroller’s office says the industry “is likely to experience significant job losses over the course of the next year.”

In particular, the securities sub-sector of financial services “could lose an additional 10,000 jobs by the end of 2012, which would bring total job losses in the industry to 32,000 since January 2008,” the report said.

So they are mad because the bankers are successful?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by StugotsIII

So they are mad because the bankers are successful?

Only in GOP-land is collapsing the global financial system called "successful".