Blocking a Field Goal at the Posts - The Orange Mane

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 07:57 AM

I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight.

When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the lower crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is:

Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . .

TIA

BroncsCheer

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 07:58 AM

I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight.

When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is:

Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . .

TIA

BroncsCheer

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 08:00 AM

Failed attempt to modify thread title . .

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 08:01 AM

That's better. ...

TheReverend · 09-30-2011, 08:02 AM

The cross bar is ten feet high.

The best vertical jump ever in the NFL is 46"

Would need "madder hops" than exists.

/thread

TheDave · 09-30-2011, 08:14 AM

What the heck has happened to this place?

Oh and in B4 CrossFitGaveMeUpsGuy posts...

Deuce · 09-30-2011, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

The cross bar is ten feet high.

The best vertical jump ever in the NFL is 46"

Would need "madder hops" than exists.

/thread

What? A basketball hoop is 10 feet tall. Football players "dunk" over the crossbar after touchdowns all the time. So it is plausible that a player could reach high enough to reach a fg attempt that barely clears the crossbar, just don't know if its legal.

Thread/?

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 08:17 AM

Let's to the math.

Standing vert reach for 6'3" guy (like me) is 8' (96")

add vert leap (conservative) 40" = 136"

that's 16" over the crossbar - so it's not impossible. Improbable, but by no means impossible.

goldengopher1976 · 09-30-2011, 08:19 AM

Good grief, the thread police in this place are harsh.

Seems like an interesting question, and watching Tony Gonzalez dunk over the crossbar makes me think it might be possible. Now about the rule...?

EDIT: watching Megatron catch passes makes me think that there are a few guys with the hops (and ball tracking ability) to do it.

Deuce · 09-30-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncsCheer

Let's to the math.

Standing vert reach for 6'3" guy (like me) is 8' (96")

add vert leap (conservative) 40" = 136"

that's 16" over the crossbar - so it's not impossible. Improbable, but by no means impossible.

I agree, not sure what Rev was thinking. I would still like to know if this was legal, I have thought about this before as well.

TheReverend · 09-30-2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce

What? A basketball hoop is 10 feet tall. Football players "dunk" over the crossbar after touchdowns all the time. So it is plausible that a player could reach high enough to reach a fg attempt that barely clears the crossbar, just don't know if its legal.

Thread/?

That's a running vertical. Can't really do that from behind the goal post based on it's shape alone. Could go from side to side but now you're making an impossible event even more impossible.

TheReverend · 09-30-2011, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce

I agree, not sure what Rev was thinking. I would still like to know if this was legal, I have thought about this before as well.

Yeah... what was I thinking...

DrFate · 09-30-2011, 08:24 AM

Illegal in college

http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/go...g-for-football

Illegal in NFL

http://www.ehow.com/about_5403961_nf...oal-rules.html

schaaf · 09-30-2011, 08:24 AM

Players are able to return field goals. Therefore I would assume you could try and knock it down and say you were trying to catch it... but Im also assuming you would have to knock it down before it crossed the plane of the field goal posts

alkemical · 09-30-2011, 08:24 AM

What if you draft a mutant ninja turtle from ***ashima that can jump that high to karate kick the football out of play during a field goal?

BroncsCheer · 09-30-2011, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrFate

Illegal in college

http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/go...g-for-football

Illegal in NFL

http://www.ehow.com/about_5403961_nf...oal-rules.html

Now the thread is over.

Thanks DrFate

TheDave · 09-30-2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkemical

What if you draft a mutant ninja turtle from ***ashima that can jump that high to karate kick the football out of play during a field goal?

Now we're getting somewhere!

What if we drafted one of those Tia Foot-Volleyball dudes?

DrFate · 09-30-2011, 08:30 AM

It's nonsensical to think you couldn't have an NFL player who could do this. If you can dunk a basketball flat-footed, you could jump from a standing position and block a football that doinked the crossbar.

The OP deserved better than the crap he got.

alkemical · 09-30-2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Now we're getting somewhere!

What if we drafted one of those Tia Foot-Volleyball dudes?

But...I like turtles more.

DENVERDUI55 · 09-30-2011, 08:30 AM

I think it is illegal.

Deuce · 09-30-2011, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

That's a running vertical. Can't really do that from behind the goal post based on it's shape alone. Could go from side to side but now you're making an impossible event even more impossible.

You do understand how a vertical is measured don't you? There are plently of nfl players that could get high enough to get a foot above the crossbar. Nice try though.

schaaf · 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I think it is illegal.

Thanks Genius

Kaylore · 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Oh and in B4 CrossFitGaveMeUpsGuy posts...

TheDave · 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkemical

But...I like turtles more.

They're are also harder to find.

I could probably get one of the FootVolleyBallGuys for a plane ticket and a used Kia...

Cut tebow give the dude his #15 and let the fun begin.

Kaylore · 09-30-2011, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I think it is illegal.

It is illegal to block a kick? What are we the NBA now? What's the penalty? Goaltending?

EDIT: I just read the rules posted and apparently it is illegal batting? I guess as long as you catch it, its legal.

09-30-2011, 07:58 AM	#2
BroncsCheer Pro Bowler ** * you ***** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 746 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Blocking a Field Goal at the Posts I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight. When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is: Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . . TIA BroncsCheer

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09-30-2011, 07:57 AM	#1
BroncsCheer Pro Bowler ** * you ***** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 746 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Blocking a Field Goal at the Posts I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight. When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the lower crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is: Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . . TIA BroncsCheer Last edited by BroncsCheer; 09-30-2011 at 08:00 AM..

09-30-2011, 08:00 AM	#3
BroncsCheer Pro Bowler ** * you ***** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 746 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Failed attempt to modify thread title . .

09-30-2011, 08:01 AM	#4
BroncsCheer Pro Bowler ** * you ***** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 746 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	That's better. ...

09-30-2011, 08:02 AM	#5
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,966 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	The cross bar is ten feet high. The best vertical jump ever in the NFL is 46" Would need "madder hops" than exists. /thread

09-30-2011, 08:17 AM	#8
BroncsCheer Pro Bowler ** * you ***** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 746 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Let's to the math. Standing vert reach for 6'3" guy (like me) is 8' (96") add vert leap (conservative) 40" = 136" that's 16" over the crossbar - so it's not impossible. Improbable, but by no means impossible.

09-30-2011, 08:19 AM	#9
goldengopher1976 Choosing optimism Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 718 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steve Atwater	Good grief, the thread police in this place are harsh. Seems like an interesting question, and watching Tony Gonzalez dunk over the crossbar makes me think it might be possible. Now about the rule...? EDIT: watching Megatron catch passes makes me think that there are a few guys with the hops (and ball tracking ability) to do it.

09-30-2011, 08:24 AM	#13
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	Illegal in college http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/go...g-for-football Illegal in NFL http://www.ehow.com/about_5403961_nf...oal-rules.html

09-30-2011, 08:24 AM	#14
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	Players are able to return field goals. Therefore I would assume you could try and knock it down and say you were trying to catch it... but Im also assuming you would have to knock it down before it crossed the plane of the field goal posts

09-30-2011, 08:24 AM	#15
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	What if you draft a mutant ninja turtle from ***ashima that can jump that high to karate kick the football out of play during a field goal?

09-30-2011, 08:30 AM	#18
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	It's nonsensical to think you couldn't have an NFL player who could do this. If you can dunk a basketball flat-footed, you could jump from a standing position and block a football that doinked the crossbar. The OP deserved better than the crap he got.

09-30-2011, 08:30 AM	#20
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,145 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	I think it is illegal.