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Old 01-18-2012, 07:13 PM   #276
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I watched the whole season in about 3 weeks when my friend turned me on to the program on HBO. I wish it has a bit more action, but its very good and engrossing.

It's not as fun as The Walking Dead or Spartacus though.
Oh I dunno... Spartacus is pretty cool for what it is, but the writing and presentation of Game of Thrones is EPIC in comparison... If you take the hot naked women out of Spartacus I would probably lose interest!
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:39 PM   #277
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Oh I dunno... Spartacus is pretty cool for what it is, but the writing and presentation of Game of Thrones is EPIC in comparison... If you take the hot naked women out of Spartacus I would probably lose interest!
Oh I agree 100% Thats why i said I feel Walking Dead and Spartacus are funner to watch. They aren't acting, writing wise, on the same level as Game of Thrones. Spartacus in particular.

Maybe once the dragons get flying around Game of Thrones will be more fun to watch, and not just wow this is really interesting and good. I feel like I need more action, something.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:42 PM   #278
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Game of Thrones Rocks.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:52 PM   #279
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Oh I agree 100% Thats why i said I feel Walking Dead and Spartacus are funner to watch. They aren't acting, writing wise, on the same level as Game of Thrones. Spartacus in particular.

Maybe once the dragons get flying around Game of Thrones will be more fun to watch, and not just wow this is really interesting and good. I feel like I need more action, something.
Yea I kept waiting for everything to get crazy on GoT and it never really did.... It was on the verge all season, and then the Shocking conclusion left me confused and feeling a little ripped off by the Ned Stark Character. Great show though, plan on reading the books.

Whereas Spartacus you need to wait about 5 minutes for the dirtiest sex and violence known to man
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Spartacus also rocks.

I would also recommend checking out the 2 seasons of Rome. They were good.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:03 PM   #282
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Spartacus also rocks.

I would also recommend checking out the 2 seasons of Rome. They were good.
Yea I should watch them.. I have always held a bit of a grudge since Rome replaced Deadwood which was awesome!
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just started storm of swords.
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just started storm of swords.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:06 PM   #285
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Yea I should watch them.. I have always held a bit of a grudge since Rome replaced Deadwood which was awesome!
I would get over the grudge. Its graphic and political just like Spartacus.
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I finished Dances with Dragons several months ago and am eagerly awaiting season two of the TV series.

In the meantime, for anyone else who has finished it all and who enjoys the kind of gritty fantasy, character development and political maneuvering you see in GoT, let me suggest Joe Abercrombie's "First Law" series. Three books make up the core trilogy, followed by two stand-alone novels ("Best Served Cold" and "The Heroes") Honestly, I enjoyed this series even more than GoT.
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I finished Dances with Dragons several months ago and am eagerly awaiting season two of the TV series.

In the meantime, for anyone else who has finished it all and who enjoys the kind of gritty fantasy, character development and political maneuvering you see in GoT, let me suggest Joe Abercrombie's "First Law" series. Three books make up the core trilogy, followed by two stand-alone novels ("Best Served Cold" and "The Heroes") Honestly, I enjoyed this series even more than GoT.
I'll look into this.
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I have read all 5 and was left pissed off.... until I saw #6 is in the future and is the final. I just wanted some damn closure on some stuff and #5 does not give you any!!!!

Storm of Swords best one for sure....
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Wtf... no way they can finish this all up with 1 more...
It probably doesn't hurt that George has said the exact same thing.
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^ confirmed. As is they have 7 planned:

# Title Pages Chapters Audio Earliest Release
1. A Game of Thrones 807 (704 hardcover) 77 33h 53m August 1996
2. A Clash of Kings 969 (784 hardcover) 70 37h 17m November 1998
3. A Storm of Swords 1128 (992 hardcover) 82 47h 37m August 2000
4. A Feast for Crows 976 (784 hardcover) 46 31h 10m October 2005
5. A Dance with Dragons (959 hardcover) 73 48h 56m July 2011
6. The Winds of Winter[15] (Forthcoming)
7. A Dream of Spring[16] (Forthcoming)

Keep in mind this was intended to be a TRILOGY
I just hope he doesn't croak before its done.
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"Don't worry about it. I feel fine."



Exactly. And Martin looks worse.

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I have to admit, as much as I love the guy and his work, I often wonder if he was ****ing his sister growing up or if he's a pedophile considering some of the bertstare worthy portions of the plot.
Possibly. I think he's also a student of history and a lot of that stuff is just how it was. It can seem excessive, but there is no Judeo-Christian ethic in his world, so the baseline is different.
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Possibly. I think he's also a student of history and a lot of that stuff is just how it was. It can seem excessive, but there is no Judeo-Christian ethic in his world, so the baseline is different.
He has stated on more than one occasion that the ages of the characters is the one thing he would change, making them a couple of years older. He said it was his historical research into Europe during the "Dark Ages" that led him to set the ages as young as he did initially. I'm in the middle of "Storm", but am going to have to start it over as I put it down 6 months ago due to work picking up and football season. End of January/February are always my best book reading months. Looking forward to getting back into them, but not sure I want to with season 2 starting up so soon (sometimes knowing what happens way down the road takes away from the enjoyment of the show). As for Rome, watch it Turd! Remember that HBO didn't cancel Deadwood because of Rome. If anything you can blame John, from Cincinnati that Milch was doing for HBO as well. HBO didn't want to pay the cast of Deadwood to hang around for 4 months waiting for Milch to get done. Rome is a must do, Turd. You won't regret it. You'll just be PO'ed again as the writer's strike killed Rome after season 2 for the same reasons Deadwood was done in. Money; in particular, the actor's salaries that HBO didn't want to pay waiting for production to start.
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The only thing I'm unsure about with the HBO version is Arya's age. By the time they get to Storm the actress playing Arya will be waaaay older than in the books. IMO her age is such a major part of her character arc with all the things that happen to her. I wonder if they are just going to go with it and ignore the book version of her.
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He has stated on more than one occasion that the ages of the characters is the one thing he would change, making them a couple of years older. He said it was his historical research into Europe during the "Dark Ages" that led him to set the ages as young as he did initially. I'm in the middle of "Storm", but am going to have to start it over as I put it down 6 months ago due to work picking up and football season. End of January/February are always my best book reading months. Looking forward to getting back into them, but not sure I want to with season 2 starting up so soon (sometimes knowing what happens way down the road takes away from the enjoyment of the show). As for Rome, watch it Turd! Remember that HBO didn't cancel Deadwood because of Rome. If anything you can blame John, from Cincinnati that Milch was doing for HBO as well. HBO didn't want to pay the cast of Deadwood to hang around for 4 months waiting for Milch to get done. Rome is a must do, Turd. You won't regret it. You'll just be PO'ed again as the writer's strike killed Rome after season 2 for the same reasons Deadwood was done in. Money; in particular, the actor's salaries that HBO didn't want to pay waiting for production to start.
First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?
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First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?


Sorry Kaylore, I was referencing Turd Fergy's comment about Rome...my bad, should have put his quote in there. I totally agree about Lucius and Titus and you are correct about the costs (it was at that time the most expensive show on a seasonal basis that HBO had ever done), but the writer's strike was also key. Italy is the most expensive place in the world to film, and much of the show was shot there (50-60% if memory serves). HBO and BBC were not willing to continue to pay all the location fees, permit fees (and there were an embarrassment of those), actor's salaries, etc. when no one knew how long the strike would last. There were supposed to be two or three more seasons in the origional plan.

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East coast, huh?

Gross.
Ah, I'm in Atlanta...not so bad. 60F today. Nice out. Smoke done, beer recharged. Heading over to E-mail to get it out to you next. Totally bummed that I lost the one I did for you the other night. Organic flow...just poured out clean. Hope I get into that flow again.
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I can't wait til the new book comes out, in like 5 years! Gaaaaah!

I gave up on WOT, book 8 is just so boring. I couldn't take it anymore.
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First, I have seen both seasons of Rome. It was awesome. Lucius Verenus and Titus Polo are one of the best duos I've ever seen on a TV show of any kind. I think them killing the show after the second season had more to do with it being really, really high budget and that it was a co-op with BBC production. They usually do only two seasons and a special for a lot of their shows, where in the US we try to wring them out until they die. I agree the morals and whatnot are very similar to GOT and you can see the cultural acceptance and abhorrence of some things totally off.

Second, why do you keep calling me turd? And why are you capitalizing it?
Apparently they are making a movie.

And another season of Arrested Development and a movie!
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Apparently they are making a movie.

And another season of Arrested Development and a movie!
(to Dutch too) They are Making a movie of Rome? How, is that when one of the main characters (NO SPOILERS) died at the end of season 2?
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