Steve Jobs - resigned - The Orange Mane

Pontius Pirate · 08-24-2011, 04:23 PM

He said, "I am following my passion to become the 3rd string QB for the Broncos...all apologies to Tim Tebow."

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/24/tech...igns/index.htm

Dagmar · 08-24-2011, 04:30 PM

When does the iPhone 5 come out Steve!?!

Goobzilla · 08-24-2011, 04:35 PM

Better get that iLiver on the market.

Houshyamama · 08-24-2011, 04:41 PM

resigned by who?

broncosteven · 08-24-2011, 05:03 PM

I think he is working with Ray Kurzweil to download his brain into an ipod.

I feel bad for the guy, I know what it is like to have your health taken away. Here is a guy running the biggest corp in the world and his health fails, shows it can happen to anyone.

theAPAOps5 · 08-24-2011, 05:05 PM

Yeah but the guy had been able to afford treatment for pancreatic cancer and far outlive most who are diagnosed. I don't feel sorry for him at all. He is very fortunate and successful.

broncosteven · 08-24-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Yeah but the guy had been able to afford treatment for pancreatic cancer and far outlive most who are diagnosed. I don't feel sorry for him at all. He is very fortunate and successful.

It is not like he was a cruel dictator Apa. I knew the CEO at work, we worked for a large healthcare organization and he got cancer and had access to all the tests and procedures that us peons wouldn't have had access to but he still died, I wish the providers would do the same for everyone they see but I know they don't.

theAPAOps5 · 08-24-2011, 05:17 PM

I am not saying he is cruel I just don't feel sorry fo him. He is very fortunate and has lived a successful and fruitful life. His health issues suck, but so do a billion other people's. Just my opinion but I just don't feel sorry for anyone who has found success and done great things. I feel sorry for the people who never got to.

broncosteven · 08-24-2011, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

I am not saying he is cruel I just don't feel sorry fo him. He is very fortunate and has lived a successful and fruitful life. His health issues suck, but so do a billion other people's. Just my opinion but I just don't feel sorry for anyone who has found success and done great things. I feel sorry for the people who never got to.

I can see your point but 55 is still young no matter what he did or how much scratch he had.

theAPAOps5 · 08-24-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

I can see your point but 55 is still young no matter what he did or how much scratch he had.

We are kind of talking like he died. He hasn't, he stepped down from Apple and is a billionaire. Sucks it is not how he would have liked but I could think of a billion reasons why it isn't so bad.

Meck77 · 08-24-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Yeah but the guy had been able to afford treatment for pancreatic cancer and far outlive most who are diagnosed. I don't feel sorry for him at all. He is very fortunate and successful.

That's interesting. Usually pancreatic kills people within months of being diagnosed from what I've noticed. Will be interesting to see how long he lives. Probably not too much longer since he is resigning.

I'd bet Steve would give it all away for a clean bill of health.

theAPAOps5 · 08-24-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meck77

That's interesting. Usually pancreatic kills people within months of being diagnosed from what I've noticed. Will be interesting to see how long he lives. Probably not too much longer since he is resigning.

I'd bet Steve would give it all away for a clean bill of health.

It was a more treatable form from what I read but still a horrid disease and one he has fought pretty damn well.

broncosteven · 08-24-2011, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

It was a more treatable form from what I read but still a horrid disease and one he has fought pretty damn well.

From what I heard he has been on medical leave for most of the year. I think he is near the end.

Boomhauer · 08-25-2011, 08:13 PM

Apple is no more. Only 'stuff' remains.

For any business to function, it has usual management requirements - finance, operations, supply, HR, etc. What makes companies highly successful is outstanding individuals at key positions. While the current products are very good and an outline is in place for near term development, that is only 'stuff' and meaningless without direction.

In the tech world, high priority is given to patents and technologic innovation, rightly so, but ideas and equipment without rare individuals capable of identifying their use and successfully implementing them means it's all just 'stuff'. These technology companies can be compared to the manufacturing companies they outsource - in that great tech is there, but there's no successful implementation. Manufacturers produce specifically what's ordered while tech companies copy without visionary leaders only mimic the design and features out there.

Jobs was the leader for Apple, and one of the best on Earth. Without him, Apple will become just another nameless and also-ran tech company. A few examples of companies turning ho-hum or failing after the loss of dynamic leadership;
- IBM made great PCs, later renaming that division Lenovo. Lenovo was then sold to China. There was one or two years where the computers were still IBM-good, but now it's just hardware. I'd guess in a few years, Apple will no longer be Jobs-good.
- China also makes a number of knock-offs, both in technology and automotive. All this 'stuff' is reverse engineered (a major patent violation), yet none of it is as good as the original equipment. All the fine details of design, construction and programing/tuning done by the real deal is absent.
- Many here were twitterpaited that the Broncos were bringing the Patriot Way to Denver, but that was just 'stuff'. Bill-Belly, the real Hoodie, was what makes the Patriots successful. What Denver got was a cheap knock-off, trying to sell the lie that 'stuff' matters more than the individual. The result was the worst Coach in Broncos history and almost the worst record in the NFL.
- The Russian space program has been using the same hardware for decades and has been a highly successful program. In the last half decade, all the old-timers have been replaced by a new culture. In the last year they've lost five launches, including an ISS resupply the other day. While the equipment and policies haven't changed, the people have and put the ISS future in jeopardy. The same concerns exist for our current loss of key NASA individuals and culture, as well as replacing the best military leadership with a new State Dept/CIA/Mercenary approach.

greenheart · 09-06-2011, 03:30 PM

crazy..

broncosteven · 09-06-2011, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

Apple is no more. Only 'stuff' remains.
...
- The Russian space program has been using the same hardware for decades and has been a highly successful program. In the last half decade, all the old-timers have been replaced by a new culture. In the last year they've lost five launches, including an ISS resupply the other day. While the equipment and policies haven't changed, the people have and put the ISS future in jeopardy. The same concerns exist for our current loss of key NASA individuals and culture, as well as replacing the best military leadership with a new State Dept/CIA/Mercenary approach.

I read an article in Air and Space mag a few months ago about Star City in Russia, it (like most of Russia) is crumbling down around the people. Only a fraction of the workers populate the town they built in the late 50's early 60's and they never do any maint or upkeep on the buildings.

There are a few world class testing facilities that they do keep in best shape but everything else is a dump.

I blame everything on the Japan and their "Just in time" model. No one wants to do anything that could impact their numbers anymore. You need to have a robust infrastructure that can weather storms and down times while maintaining the best quality available.

I think Apple will falter with the loss of Jobs but it will take them awhile, they had trouble when he was doing his "Next" computing platform but he learned from it and realized that all he had to do was change the platform and make it simple and things took off with the ipod. That kind of vision is difficult to find.

Boomhauer · 09-06-2011, 07:48 PM

Yahoo just fired its CEO of 2 1/2 years.

In 2008, Yahoo founder Jerry Yang turned down a buyout from Microsoft worth $44bil. He was continuing to build and expand the company and thought the offer was undervalued. This set off a squabble among the board of directors, throwing all existing plans into doubt and severely hampering the company.

A year later, he was removed and replaced by Bartz - a prototypical business manager, not a visionary. This was merely a continuation of the business-centric uproar started when Yahoo didn't sell out to Microsoft.

One of the first moves of Bartz was to sell of a piece of Yahoo's search to Microsoft for pennies. She then proceded to 'reorganize' of slash, consolidate and burn all the expansion and future Yang had laid out. Now, 2 1/2 years after taking control and implamenting business-savy over business-vision, Yahoo is only worth around 1/3 what Microsoft was offering and in a death spiral.

After a few months of looking for a replacement for Bartz, she was fired and a temporary, in-house CEO took control to try and immediately mend finances. Essentially, Yahoo has gone from a growing powerhouse to intensive care since replacing it's founder. The same happened to Apple the first time it fired Steve Jobs and I have no reason to doubt it won't happen again.

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Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	When does the iPhone 5 come out Steve!?!

08-24-2011, 04:35 PM	#3
Goobzilla Lights Out B*h! BA-ZING!!** Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wellington Posts: 6,526 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mitch Erickson	Better get that iLiver on the market.

08-24-2011, 04:41 PM	#4
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	resigned by who?

08-24-2011, 05:03 PM	#5
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,006 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I think he is working with Ray Kurzweil to download his brain into an ipod. I feel bad for the guy, I know what it is like to have your health taken away. Here is a guy running the biggest corp in the world and his health fails, shows it can happen to anyone.

08-24-2011, 05:05 PM	#6
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Yeah but the guy had been able to afford treatment for pancreatic cancer and far outlive most who are diagnosed. I don't feel sorry for him at all. He is very fortunate and successful.

08-24-2011, 05:17 PM	#8
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I am not saying he is cruel I just don't feel sorry fo him. He is very fortunate and has lived a successful and fruitful life. His health issues suck, but so do a billion other people's. Just my opinion but I just don't feel sorry for anyone who has found success and done great things. I feel sorry for the people who never got to.

08-25-2011, 08:13 PM	#14
Boomhauer Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,501	Apple is no more. Only 'stuff' remains. For any business to function, it has usual management requirements - finance, operations, supply, HR, etc. What makes companies highly successful is outstanding individuals at key positions. While the current products are very good and an outline is in place for near term development, that is only 'stuff' and meaningless without direction. In the tech world, high priority is given to patents and technologic innovation, rightly so, but ideas and equipment without rare individuals capable of identifying their use and successfully implementing them means it's all just 'stuff'. These technology companies can be compared to the manufacturing companies they outsource - in that great tech is there, but there's no successful implementation. Manufacturers produce specifically what's ordered while tech companies copy without visionary leaders only mimic the design and features out there. Jobs was the leader for Apple, and one of the best on Earth. Without him, Apple will become just another nameless and also-ran tech company. A few examples of companies turning ho-hum or failing after the loss of dynamic leadership; - IBM made great PCs, later renaming that division Lenovo. Lenovo was then sold to China. There was one or two years where the computers were still IBM-good, but now it's just hardware. I'd guess in a few years, Apple will no longer be Jobs-good. - China also makes a number of knock-offs, both in technology and automotive. All this 'stuff' is reverse engineered (a major patent violation), yet none of it is as good as the original equipment. All the fine details of design, construction and programing/tuning done by the real deal is absent. - Many here were twitterpaited that the Broncos were bringing the Patriot Way to Denver, but that was just 'stuff'. Bill-Belly, the real Hoodie, was what makes the Patriots successful. What Denver got was a cheap knock-off, trying to sell the lie that 'stuff' matters more than the individual. The result was the worst Coach in Broncos history and almost the worst record in the NFL. - The Russian space program has been using the same hardware for decades and has been a highly successful program. In the last half decade, all the old-timers have been replaced by a new culture. In the last year they've lost five launches, including an ISS resupply the other day. While the equipment and policies haven't changed, the people have and put the ISS future in jeopardy. The same concerns exist for our current loss of key NASA individuals and culture, as well as replacing the best military leadership with a new State Dept/CIA/Mercenary approach.

09-06-2011, 03:30 PM	#15
greenheart Just Drafted New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	crazy..

09-06-2011, 07:48 PM	#17
Boomhauer Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,501	Yahoo just fired its CEO of 2 1/2 years. In 2008, Yahoo founder Jerry Yang turned down a buyout from Microsoft worth $44bil. He was continuing to build and expand the company and thought the offer was undervalued. This set off a squabble among the board of directors, throwing all existing plans into doubt and severely hampering the company. A year later, he was removed and replaced by Bartz - a prototypical business manager, not a visionary. This was merely a continuation of the business-centric uproar started when Yahoo didn't sell out to Microsoft. One of the first moves of Bartz was to sell of a piece of Yahoo's search to Microsoft for pennies. She then proceded to 'reorganize' of slash, consolidate and burn all the expansion and future Yang had laid out. Now, 2 1/2 years after taking control and implamenting business-savy over business-vision, Yahoo is only worth around 1/3 what Microsoft was offering and in a death spiral. After a few months of looking for a replacement for Bartz, she was fired and a temporary, in-house CEO took control to try and immediately mend finances. Essentially, Yahoo has gone from a growing powerhouse to intensive care since replacing it's founder. The same happened to Apple the first time it fired Steve Jobs and I have no reason to doubt it won't happen again.