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bronco militia · 08-11-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alkemical

Z!

Ok buddy, i'm sure they agree with you.

BroncoInferno · 08-11-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jhns

Here is a nice little roundhouse kick to the face from reality.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...71/4/index.htm

One of his coaches in Denver, the highly respected offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger—who is now recovering from his second round of chemotherapy after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last year—says, "I think he is one of the few guys in this league that can carry a team on his back and win a Super Bowl."

It's strange how you are so fond of quoting coaches to support your argument in this debate, but when debating Tebow-Orton you dismiss the notion that John Fox (a long-tenured, successful, well-respected head coach) might know better than you which QB gives the team the best chance to win.

jhns · 08-11-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

It's strange how you are so fond of quoting coaches to support your argument in this debate, but when debating Tebow-Orton you dismiss the notion that John Fox (a long-tenured, successful, well-respected head coach) might know better than you which QB gives the team the best chance to win.

That is because you haven't been reading my posts. You are also saying that Fox knows as much about QBs as the proven offensive guys that I named. You have to ignore his entire history to make that claim...

SouthStndJunkie · 08-11-2011, 11:13 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...icho-cotchery/

Steelers add Jerricho Cotchery

BroncoInferno · 08-11-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jhns

That is because you haven't been reading my posts. You are also saying that Fox knows as much about QBs as the proven offensive guys that I named. You have to ignore his entire history to make that claim...

What about Elway, who was himself a QB (perhaps the greatest of all-time)? Do you dismiss him as an authority on the position as well?

By the way, I'm in the "play Tebow now" camp, so I've got no issue there. Just wondering why you will use a "plea to authority" in one debate, but dismiss it in another.

alkemical · 08-11-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

What about Elway, who was himself a QB (perhaps the greatest of all-time)? Do you dismiss him as an authority on the position as well?

By the way, I'm in the "play Tebow now" camp, so I've got no issue there. Just wondering why you will use a "plea to authority" in one debate, but dismiss it in another.

Insert Kanye Meme here

alkemical · 08-11-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Feels like one of those "meh" signings that will just work out for Pittsburgh...

Bastards.

jhns · 08-11-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

What about Elway, who was himself a QB (perhaps the greatest of all-time)? Do you dismiss him as an authority on the position as well?

By the way, I'm in the "play Tebow now" camp, so I've got no issue there. Just wondering why you will use a "plea to authority" in one debate, but dismiss it in another.

I don't dismiss it. Again, it is obvious that you don't know my position. That is fine, I wouldn't expect you to read everything I post. Just don't pretend you do. I have said multiple times that I have no problem with the way they are handling the QB situation. I argue that Tebow should start because that is my opinion. Elway has said good things about Tebow and even had Orton on the trade block. It isn't like he has said Tebow sucks. Even if he did, he isn't at all proven in knowing other QBs... You see, you can say something and it will not be used as proof. I only use coaches opinions that have proven that they do their job well. You seem to be missing that point.

Anyways, no one on this staff has come out saying Orton is great. You are comparing those quotes vs who should start in the battle of the retards.

bronco militia · 08-11-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Feels like one of those "meh" signings that will just work out for Pittsburgh...

yeah, no doubt

god damn it

08-11-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

What about Elway, who was himself a QB (perhaps the greatest of all-time)? Do you dismiss him as an authority on the position as well?

To be honest great athletes usually don't do as well
as just an average guy because game came easy to them and they struggle to relate to players that aren't as skilled. Hope John doesn't fall into this trap.

dbfan21 · 08-11-2011, 07:31 PM

Hope Marshall has gotten or is getting the help he needs...

Brandon Marshall’s role in the public eye intensified when he was stabbed by his wife in the offseason (he denied that it happened) and, later, when he admitted that he suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder.

And while there was very little question that Marshall had been stabbed by somebody (it was only allegedly caused by his wife), Marshall made the excuse that his cuts had been caused when he slipped on a vase.

But now the South Florida Times has the intricate details of what police found when they were called to the Marshall household in April.

Police found a “large pool of blood” in the foyer of the house before discovering other blood trails throughout the residence. Marshall had been slashed on his wrists and his abdomen, while his wife, Michi-Nogami Marshall, had a bruise on her left check. And, maybe most disturbing, police found a 13-inch bloody knife next to a bloody magazine clip from a gun.

It is a rather unsettling scene -- that surely wasn’t the result of a broken vase -- but hopefully, activities like this are in the past for Marshall and his wife.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/31260910

That One Guy · 08-11-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dbfan21

Hope Marshall has gotten or is getting the help he needs...

Brandon Marshall’s role in the public eye intensified when he was stabbed by his wife in the offseason (he denied that it happened) and, later, when he admitted that he suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder.

And while there was very little question that Marshall had been stabbed by somebody (it was only allegedly caused by his wife), Marshall made the excuse that his cuts had been caused when he slipped on a vase.

But now the South Florida Times has the intricate details of what police found when they were called to the Marshall household in April.

Police found a “large pool of blood” in the foyer of the house before discovering other blood trails throughout the residence. Marshall had been slashed on his wrists and his abdomen, while his wife, Michi-Nogami Marshall, had a bruise on her left check. And, maybe most disturbing, police found a 13-inch bloody knife next to a bloody magazine clip from a gun.

It is a rather unsettling scene -- that surely wasn’t the result of a broken vase -- but hopefully, activities like this are in the past for Marshall and his wife.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/31260910

If he ends up getting himself killed, I'll laugh out loud and feel not an ounce of remorse for it.

bowtown · 08-11-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy

If he ends up getting himself killed, I'll laugh out loud and feel not an ounce of remorse for it.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-12-2011, 10:56 AM

The Buffalo Bills have traded receiver Lee Evans to the Baltimore Ravens, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Friday.

The Bills will get a fourth-round pick in the 2012 draft from Baltimore.

bendog · 08-12-2011, 11:00 AM

god dammit, this is a tebow v. orton thread. No hijacking! God frowns on that.

dbfan21 · 08-12-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy

If he ends up getting himself killed, I'll laugh out loud and feel not an ounce of remorse for it.

That's a little harsh, dontcha think? He's a sick person who's finally trying to get help. If your friend was struggling with a mental illness and he got killed because it caused him to be violent, irrational, etc, would you laugh? I hope not.

Just because he's a rich football player, doesn't make him any less of a person. Right?

bronco610 · 08-12-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan21

That's a little harsh, dontcha think? He's a sick person who's finally trying to get help. If your friend was struggling with a mental illness and he got killed because it caused him to be violent, irrational, etc, would you laugh? I hope not.

Just because he's a rich football player, doesn't make him any less of a person. Right?

If I had a "friend" that was violent and hit women I may shoot him myself.

jhns · 08-12-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco610

If I had a "friend" that was violent and hit women I may shoot him myself.

Hit women?

You girls are extreme drama queens. Marshall hasn't been in trouble for hitting women. His wife stabbed him in that story...

You want to know who has been in trouble for hitting women? Rod Smith.

broncosteven · 08-12-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Damn.

Remember when Lee Evans looked special?

Lelie > Evans

DBroncos4life · 08-12-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Damn.

Remember when Lee Evans looked special?

The last time the Bills had a 3000 yard passer in 06.

Tombstone RJ · 08-13-2011, 01:49 PM

Anyone else watch the Skins/Steeler's game? Shanny looks like he's got Grossman dialed in...

_Oro_ · 08-14-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan21

Hope Marshall has gotten or is getting the help he needs...

Brandon Marshall’s role in the public eye intensified when he was stabbed by his wife in the offseason (he denied that it happened) and, later, when he admitted that he suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder.

And while there was very little question that Marshall had been stabbed by somebody (it was only allegedly caused by his wife), Marshall made the excuse that his cuts had been caused when he slipped on a vase.

But now the South Florida Times has the intricate details of what police found when they were called to the Marshall household in April.

Police found a “large pool of blood” in the foyer of the house before discovering other blood trails throughout the residence. Marshall had been slashed on his wrists and his abdomen, while his wife, Michi-Nogami Marshall, had a bruise on her left check. And, maybe most disturbing, police found a 13-inch bloody knife next to a bloody magazine clip from a gun.

It is a rather unsettling scene -- that surely wasn’t the result of a broken vase -- but hopefully, activities like this are in the past for Marshall and his wife.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/31260910

I still remember all the QQ over McD shipping out Marshall. It's a sad sight to see, but I'm glad this stuff with Marshall is not happening here in Denver. I knew Marshall was off but I never thought it would be this bad with him.

bendog · 08-14-2011, 01:15 PM

people were upset with getting two twos for BM? He was/is a really good wr, but his longevity factor was/is suspect.

bronco610 · 08-14-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jhns

Hit women?

You girls are extreme drama queens. Marshall hasn't been in trouble for hitting women. His wife stabbed him in that story...

You want to know who has been in trouble for hitting women? Rod Smith.

Okay, attacking a cab with the woman in it. Real bright. Also in a physical fight on the street with who he is suppose to marry. Yeah, thats normal.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-15-2011, 10:56 AM

The Buffalo Bills are releasing former first-round pick Aaron Maybin after trying unsuccessfully to trade the linebacker, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Drafted 11th overall in 2009 out of Penn State for his pass-rushing abilities, Maybin has yet to register a sack in 26 career games. Last season he was credited with only six tackles and has just 24 in his two-year career.

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08-11-2011, 11:13 AM	#2704
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 17,827	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...icho-cotchery/ Steelers add Jerricho Cotchery

08-11-2011, 07:31 PM	#2711
dbfan21 Floridian living in KS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wichita Posts: 2,176 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	Hope Marshall has gotten or is getting the help he needs... Brandon Marshall’s role in the public eye intensified when he was stabbed by his wife in the offseason (he denied that it happened) and, later, when he admitted that he suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder. And while there was very little question that Marshall had been stabbed by somebody (it was only allegedly caused by his wife), Marshall made the excuse that his cuts had been caused when he slipped on a vase. But now the South Florida Times has the intricate details of what police found when they were called to the Marshall household in April. Police found a “large pool of blood” in the foyer of the house before discovering other blood trails throughout the residence. Marshall had been slashed on his wrists and his abdomen, while his wife, Michi-Nogami Marshall, had a bruise on her left check. And, maybe most disturbing, police found a 13-inch bloody knife next to a bloody magazine clip from a gun. It is a rather unsettling scene -- that surely wasn’t the result of a broken vase -- but hopefully, activities like this are in the past for Marshall and his wife. http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/31260910

08-12-2011, 10:56 AM	#2714
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 17,827	The Buffalo Bills have traded receiver Lee Evans to the Baltimore Ravens, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Friday. The Bills will get a fourth-round pick in the 2012 draft from Baltimore.

08-12-2011, 11:00 AM	#2715
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,887 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	god dammit, this is a tebow v. orton thread. No hijacking! God frowns on that.

08-13-2011, 01:49 PM	#2721
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 26,071 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Anyone else watch the Skins/Steeler's game? Shanny looks like he's got Grossman dialed in...

08-14-2011, 01:15 PM	#2723
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,887 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	people were upset with getting two twos for BM? He was/is a really good wr, but his longevity factor was/is suspect.

08-15-2011, 10:56 AM	#2725
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 17,827	The Buffalo Bills are releasing former first-round pick Aaron Maybin after trying unsuccessfully to trade the linebacker, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Drafted 11th overall in 2009 out of Penn State for his pass-rushing abilities, Maybin has yet to register a sack in 26 career games. Last season he was credited with only six tackles and has just 24 in his two-year career.