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Beantown Bronco · 08-11-2011, 07:41 AM

Getting rid of his boyfriend and safety blanket Olsen will hurt though.

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 07:44 AM

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Getting rid of his boyfriend and safety blanket Olsen will hurt though.

I'm not sure I really believe that. He was the 5th leading receiver last year and they're speaking very highly of Kellen Davis and Spaeth. Quite frankly, the two don't have to do much to fill Greg Olsen's production.

2KBack · 08-11-2011, 08:10 AM

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I'm not sure I really believe that. He was the 5th leading receiver last year and they're speaking very highly of Kellen Davis and Spaeth. Quite frankly, the two don't have to do much to fill Greg Olsen's production.

He had 41 catches on a team where the leading receivers had 51 each and tied for the team lead in Rec TD. That's not exactly an afterthought

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 08:15 AM

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He had 41 catches on a team where the leading receivers had 51 each and tied for the team lead in Rec TD. That's not exactly an afterthought

400 yards for a "receiving TE" is the definition of "afterthought".

Nice catch vs Seattle though.

2KBack · 08-11-2011, 08:18 AM

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400 yards for a "receiving TE" is the definition of "afterthought".

Nice catch vs Seattle though.

His production was certainly down (the Martz factor), but It feels like whenever they really needed a play Olsen was there.

jhns · 08-11-2011, 08:21 AM

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What?

From the show Entourage.

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

His production was certainly down (the Martz factor), but It feels like whenever they really needed a play Olsen was there.

Well if that's what it feels like to you, then he was clearly snubbed for "All Pro" last year and the Bears have no hope of replicating his massive 400 yards of production.

2KBack · 08-11-2011, 08:27 AM

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Well if that's what it feels like to you, then he was clearly snubbed for "All Pro" last year and the Bears have no hope of replicating his massive 400 yards of production.

I'm sure the yardage will be made up for somewhere, but there is something to be said for having a security blanket target you can depend on. Maybe one of those other guys will step into that role...time will tell

HooptyHoops · 08-11-2011, 08:33 AM

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Chiefs signed unrestricted former Ravens OT Jared Gaither.

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 08:37 AM

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I'm sure the yardage will be made up for somewhere, but there is something to be said for having a security blanket target you can depend on. Maybe one of those other guys will step into that role...time will tell

Security blanket? I repeat, the guy had 400 yards... if that's a "security blanket" then it needs to get washed.

I dunno, I don't understand. What's your end game here? Hoping to show a poor producing "receiving TE" is actually worth something after being unceremoniously dumped by his team for a 3rd round draft pick?

This isn't Antonio Gates... hell, this isn't even Brent Celek

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 08:38 AM

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AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Chiefs signed unrestricted former Ravens OT Jared Gaither.

If he can pass a physical then it's bull**** that we didn't sign him to ease the Franklin transition.

TonyR · 08-11-2011, 08:43 AM

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Nnamdi Asomugha, Jason Babin, Ronnie Brown, Anthony Hargrove, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Cullen Jenkins, Derek Landri, Donald Lee, Evan Mathis, Jarrad Page, Chris Wilson, Vince Young, and now Steve Smith.

And I failed to include the acquisition of Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie...

2KBack · 08-11-2011, 08:43 AM

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Security blanket? I repeat, the guy had 400 yards... if that's a "security blanket" then it needs to get washed.

I dunno, I don't understand. What's your end game here? Hoping to show a poor producing "receiving TE" is actually worth something after being unceremoniously dumped by his team for a 3rd round draft pick?

This isn't Antonio Gates... hell, this isn't even Brent Celek

no end game, I'm not fighting with you. I simply agree with Bean. Olsen served as a security blanket for Cutler. You don't have to make big plays to do that, just be available and on the same page when things get hairy. On a team where trust in his receivers has been shaky at times, that can be pretty important.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-11-2011, 08:46 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ign-matt-roth/

Jaguars sign Matt Roth

Beantown Bronco · 08-11-2011, 08:51 AM

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no end game, I'm not fighting with you. I simply agree with Bean. Olsen served as a security blanket for Cutler. You don't have to make big plays to do that, just be available and on the same page when things get hairy. On a team where trust in his receivers has been shaky at times, that can be pretty important.

Yup, in his two years with Cutler he had over 100 catches for over 1000 yds and 13 TDs. Not bad considering he didn't even start 4 of those games and Martz's system didn't feature him as much as it probably should've. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing us get back to that kind of reliable production from our TEs.

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 09:00 AM

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no end game, I'm not fighting with you. I simply agree with Bean. Olsen served as a security blanket for Cutler. You don't have to make big plays to do that, just be available and on the same page when things get hairy. On a team where trust in his receivers has been shaky at times, that can be pretty important.

I don't see it. At all. Subpar #s in every category of his "specialty". Poor blocker. Etc.

I just don't see anything he brought to the table that couldn't easily be reproduced or even improved upon.

TheReverend · 08-11-2011, 09:01 AM

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Yup, in his two years with Cutler he had over 100 catches for over 1000 yds and 13 TDs. Not bad considering he didn't even start 4 of those games and Martz's system didn't feature him as much as it probably should've. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing us get back to that kind of reliable production from our TEs.

Tony "part time" Scheffler crushes him...

jhns · 08-11-2011, 09:08 AM

Cutler is entering a point in his career where he doesn't need a security blanket, or team, to win. The guy will win SBs with no talent around him. He is the kind of talent that can carry a team to wins. Along with firing Shanahan, this was easily the biggest mistake in franchise hostory.

Beantown Bronco · 08-11-2011, 09:11 AM

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Tony "part time" Scheffler crushes him...

If you prefer TEs that catch fewer balls for fewer yards and don't catch TDs.

Gort · 08-11-2011, 09:14 AM

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Cutler is entering a point in his career where he doesn't need a security blanket, or team, to win. The guy will win SBs with no talent around him. He is the kind of talent that can carry a team to wins. Along with firing Shanahan, this was easily the biggest mistake in franchise hostory.

i thought this was sarcasm until i noticed it was posted by JHNS.

BroncoInferno · 08-11-2011, 09:17 AM

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Cutler is entering a point in his career where he doesn't need a security blanket, or team, to win. The guy will win SBs with no talent around him. He is the kind of talent that can carry a team to wins. Along with firing Shanahan, this was easily the biggest mistake in franchise hostory.

jhns · 08-11-2011, 09:18 AM

Heimerdinger agrees with me and he coached Cutler in the NFL.

2KBack · 08-11-2011, 09:18 AM

No QB in history has won a championship without a good team around him.
As long as the Bears defense continues to give up 17 points a game he will get his shots though.

jhns · 08-11-2011, 09:20 AM

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No QB in history has won a championship without a good team around him.
As long as the Bears defense continues to give up 17 points a game he will get his shots though.

I meant offensive talent, and he came close last season. It took a bad injury to stop him. Cutler is a vet now though. He is ready to lead.

BroncoInferno · 08-11-2011, 09:23 AM

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Heimerdinger agrees with me and he coached Cutler in the NFL.

You keep telling us that coaches don't always know what's best, so why should we care what Heimerdinger thinks?

The fact is that the Bears dumbed down their offense last season because Cutler kept throwing up INTs, ruining things for the defense and special teams that were the real reason they had a good season last year. Then he quit on them in the playoffs.

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jhns Ring of Famer but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,396 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Cutler is entering a point in his career where he doesn't need a security blanket, or team, to win. The guy will win SBs with no talent around him. He is the kind of talent that can carry a team to wins. Along with firing Shanahan, this was easily the biggest mistake in franchise hostory.

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jhns Ring of Famer but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,396 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Heimerdinger agrees with me and he coached Cutler in the NFL.

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2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,597	No QB in history has won a championship without a good team around him. As long as the Bears defense continues to give up 17 points a game he will get his shots though.