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Old 06-18-2011, 06:54 AM   #176
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Him, Tyrion, and Arya were cast perfectly and coincidentally they are the most interesting chapters in all of the books as well. And maybe Jon Snow.
Bronn is very well done as well, and frankly more interesting to me then he was in the book. Jon Snow is kinda Luke Skywalker mopyish right now. Syraiano was much better then I recalled him being in the books.

Looking forward to Stannis and the Onion Knight next year.
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:47 PM   #177
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Uh, who is he exactly? Seriously, after reading this I feel a bit dumb (save your jokes!) because I have no idea who this guy is, nor did I know he was any kind of major actor.
You might have heard of some of these movies.........lol

He has mostly played supporting roles or lead support

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Old 06-18-2011, 03:21 PM   #178
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Bronn is very well done as well, and frankly more interesting to me then he was in the book. Jon Snow is kinda Luke Skywalker mopyish right now. Syraiano was much better then I recalled him being in the books.

Looking forward to Stannis and the Onion Knight next year.
Yeah, Bronn is pretty good. Id have to say Arya is my favorite character in the books but she's barely in the fourth.
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Long live Tyrion Lannister. The most interesting character so far.

(ok, don't get any funny ideas and post any spoilers here)
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:48 PM   #180
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You might have heard of some of these movies.........lol

He has mostly played supporting roles or lead support

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I recall him as the villain in Golden Eye now that you mention it, don't remember him in National Treasure, and haven't seen any of the others.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:01 PM   #181
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I recall him as the villain in Golden Eye now that you mention it, don't remember him in National Treasure, and haven't seen any of the others.
The ****. You've never seen Lord of the Rings?!

He was the main villain in the first National Treasure btw.

Dude's a baller.

His career was truly formed largely on the BBC Sharpe series before feature films. Golden Eye is what thrust him into the spotlight over here though. He remains one of my favorite Bond villains of all time...then again it's probably my favorite Bond film. The N64 game helped with that.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:10 PM   #182
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Yeah, Bronn is pretty good. Id have to say Arya is my favorite character in the books but she's barely in the fourth.
GRRM has said that he's focusing on Aria in "Dance with Dragons", to the tune of 300+ pages.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:14 PM   #183
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The ****. You've never seen Lord of the Rings?!

He was the main villain in the first National Treasure btw.

Dude's a baller.

His career was truly formed largely on the BBC Sharpe series before feature films. Golden Eye is what thrust him into the spotlight over here though. He remains one of my favorite Bond villains of all time...then again it's probably my favorite Bond film. The N64 game helped with that.
No, I never saw LOTR, never read the books either. Actually, freshman year of college a buddy lent me the first LOTR and I fell asleep like 20 minutes in, and I never gave it another shot. Maybe I'll go back and try watching it.
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My favorite characters thus far:

Denaryus (sp), Arya, Jon Snow, Tyrrion.

Honorable mention: Ned, Robert.

Hate: Jeoffrey, Cierse (sp), Sansa (book 1 and the show she is a twit.) Littlefinger (devious ****)

Dislike: Catelyn (just stay in Winterfell...for the love of God...), Jaime, Denaryus' brother.

Im going to start book three soon. Book two gave me a headache. How does this guy write this stuff?

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Old 06-18-2011, 05:01 PM   #185
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Im going to start book three soon. Book two gave me a headache. How does this guy write this stuff?

Storm of Swords is the longest and by far the best of the series so far. Enjoy!

Im loving the show, but am a bit peeved at how they are portraying Jon Snow. In the books he seems a lot more solemn and honorable, like Ned Stark.
Im not sure why the character seems off in the show, but he just doesnt seem to be quite as much of a badass...it's probably because they have downplayed the importance of the direwolves. The wolves are supposed to be extensions of they're masters personality. Jon's wolf Ghost is supposed to be mute and eerily calm. Im not sure why they just didnt edit out the sound for Ghost in the show so we couldnt hear him...Oh well.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:26 PM   #186
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GRRM has said that he's focusing on Aria in "Dance with Dragons", to the tune of 300+ pages.
It definitely won't surprise me if she ends up being the main character in the last three books.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:08 PM   #187
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I think last weeks ending was substantially superior to the finale. Shouldve ended the book there imo. This was kinda... Obvious
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:49 PM   #189
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I think last weeks ending was substantially superior to the finale. Shouldve ended the book there imo. This was kinda... Obvious
You should write Martin and tell him you disapprove.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:59 PM   #190
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Not sure I get the point of this post...

Do you:

1. Disagree and think it was a solid finale

2. Disagree because the ending for the book comes across very differently

3. Have no ****ing point whatsoever
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:05 PM   #191
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I liked the finale. True, I knew what was coming, but I thought it was nifty how they pulled it off.

And I still really hate Jeoffrey.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:12 PM   #192
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Yeah, Bronn is pretty good. Id have to say Arya is my favorite character in the books but she's barely in the fourth.
Books 4 and 5 split the characters in half instead of telling half the story (time wise) each.

Book 5 will be pretty much all Snow, Arya, Dany and the other major characters that were mostly excluded in Book 4.

It'll be interesting to see how they reorganize that in the series if they get that far. I doubt they'd drop half the characters for an entire season.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:13 PM   #193
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I liked the finale. True, I knew what was coming, but I thought it was nifty how they pulled it off.

And I still really hate Jeoffrey.

It seemed like an hour long epilogue to me...
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It seemed like an hour long epilogue to me...

I started reading the first book halfway through the tv series. So I knew what to expect and wondered how they would do it. Not badly done. I try to view it like someone who has not or will not read the books, and from what HBO presented they did a good job. Makes me wish season 2 started this fall rather than next spring though.


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My favorite characters thus far:

Denaryus (sp), Arya, Jon Snow, Tyrrion.

Honorable mention: Ned, Robert.

Hate: Jeoffrey, Cierse (sp), Sansa (book 1 and the show she is a twit.) Littlefinger (devious ****)

Dislike: Catelyn (just stay in Winterfell...for the love of God...), Jaime, Denaryus' brother.

Im going to start book three soon. Book two gave me a headache. How does this guy write this stuff?

As GRRM is wont to do with his focus on character development, you'll probably end up liking most of your "dislikes" before the end. Just see how much Dany changes in one book/season.

This, of course, excludes the little b****, er, Viserys. (err, and from your hate list Joffrey pretty much stays loathing worthy. In fact, you'll grow to hate him even more profoundly that you do after EP10 =)

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I thought the finale was pretty neat, but I haven't read the books so I didn't know what was coming. The last scene with the dragons was pretty sweet.
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As GRRM is wont to do with his focus on character development, you'll probably end up liking most of your "dislikes" before the end. Just see how much Dany changes in one book/season.
This, of course, excludes the little b****, er, Viserys.

Dany is a completely different character from the beginning of book one to the end of book one. Same girl in the beginning would never **spoiler** walk through fire to hatch dragon eggs Her and Arya both, even Sansa is growing on me a little.

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I started reading the first book halfway through the tv series. So I knew what to expect and wondered how they would do it. Not badly done. I try to view it like someone who has not or will not read the books, and from what HBO presented they did a good job. Makes me wish season 2 started this fall rather than next spring though.


I purposely didn't read any because I've loved the series so much but I was pretty let down here. I remember checking my clock and being pissed it was over halfway over because nothing had happened. Literally NOTHING happened until the last 2 minutes and that was pretty obvious from the wedding in episode one.
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{ The end with Danerys was, stylistically much different from the end of the book. In the book it's made clear that she didn't intend to walk into the pyre but was compelled to do so - also in the book she emerges from the flames with the dragons rather than just kinda hangin' out till the next day when the fire burns out. It was actually fairly disappointing but understandable due to the complexity/expense to do that in a TV series.

Also: In the book there's some serious squick factor as the dragons are nursing from her post-pardum breasts as she emerges. She later referred to as the "Mother Of Dragons" more or less specially because of that. As to why the hell dragons are nursing.. go figure
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{ The end with Danerys was, stylistically much different from the end of the book. In the book it's made clear that she didn't intend to walk into the pyre but was compelled to do so - also in the book she emerges from the flames with the dragons rather than just kinda hangin' out till the next day when the fire burns out. It was actually fairly disappointing but understandable due to the complexity/expense to do that in a TV series.

Also: In the book there's some serious squick factor as the dragons are nursing from her post-pardum breasts as she emerges. She later referred to as the "Mother Of Dragons" more or less specially because of that. As to why the hell dragons are nursing.. go figure
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Meh, I don't have a problem with that portion of the finale... more the lack of... well... anything else?

What else happened? (also spoiler protecting here) :

Jon left and came back immediately
Arya got a haircut
Geoffrey is still Geoffrey
Cat smacked Jaime


Color me disappointed.

Huge fan of the series now and will have all the books read by season two, but still really disappointed with this finale.
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